dave
climber
Earth
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Jan 29, 2012 - 05:15pm PT
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That first pic was taken from the cliff about 200 yds. away see me in the pit there, that session was between 8 - 12 ft' on the face. In Hawaii that'd be 4-5ft maybe occasional 6 ft.
This is about 3-4ft. on face, Hawaiian = FLAT. So much fun as long as you avoid the chicken heads sticking out of the water, this wave goes for quite a ways, water temp about 87
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socialclimber
Trad climber
CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 29, 2012 - 05:17pm PT
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Dave,
seriously fun stuff, now that I look close I can see a bit of board sticking out of that glassy barrel! Mexico? or farther south?
Charles
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dave
climber
Earth
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Jan 29, 2012 - 05:22pm PT
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All those pics are Baja.
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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Jan 29, 2012 - 05:45pm PT
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Surfing was absolutely essential to my climbing by 1968. The cardiovascular nature of the surfing in waves over five feet really feeds right into what you need for climbing: terrific cardio power. Similarly, paddling built up muscle sets mostly the same as those used for pulling down.
I have to agree with Randy Leavitt's quote at the beginning in that the best day surfing is better than the best day climbing. However, I can say my best days climbing will stand forever while my best days surfing have long since completely utterly vanished.
That most wave rides are only a matter of seconds, literally is both a beautiful and miraculous thing but also underlines how ephemeral rides and perhaps thus a life in surfing really are.
Climbing is often so painful; I don't remember any pain at all in surfing other than running out of breath and burning big time in desperate paddles avoiding the big unexpected cleanup sets in big surf.
Mixing the two sports has been going on for about fifty years now.
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Jan 29, 2012 - 06:07pm PT
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Nuthin like a good dredger.
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Jim Clipper
climber
from: forests to tree farms
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Jan 29, 2012 - 06:21pm PT
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^^^ Where is that!? Near a pier!!!? That looks like quite a few people scratching for some thrills.
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The Alpine
Big Wall climber
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Jan 29, 2012 - 07:49pm PT
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The problem with climbing is it is a constant fight. You must always fight against the constant pull of gravity. As climbers, we develop our whole climbing 'careers' around this. It becomes engrained.
Surfing (and other gravity sports) are the exact opposite. You must literally let go and give in to the force of gravity. Once you are riding it is no longer a struggle or fight.
Great compliments I suppose.
I also like that after a day of surfing you end up CLEANER than when you started.
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Jan 29, 2012 - 07:57pm PT
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I agree with some of what Peter said, however...
Surfing and climbing are my two favorite things in the whole wide world.
For me, though, they are not "complimentary". At least not when surfing is the primary gig.
When I lived on the coast, walking distance from some of California's best waves, there was no way in hell you could get me to go climbing. I didn't want to miss something.
Catching the points before the hordes, or checking the beachie repeatedly and watching it go from crap to a draining uncrowded wonderland....that sh¡t took time and dedication. Not to mention developing enough skills to get waves in a crowded lineup at a marquee break, or be able to actually ride when the beachbreak is draining and breaking boards. Couldn't really be "bothered" with the thought of leaving the coast to climb.
Ok, maybe once in a while, when it was genuinely flat and scheduled to stay that way, a run to Woodson, Tahquitz, Black Mtn or Josh was great. But my fingers were made of water, no real serious climbing.
Surfing was way more addicting.
When the medium for your enjoyment wasn't always there, or could change instantly, I wanted to be onnit. After all, that's why i lived there and put up with all the bs socal can offer.
Now, though, living in the desert stoked as hell on climbing, I jones for a proper surf. I'd pass up a climbing trip for a Midnight rambler surgical strike for a day and a half (hopefully) of surf anyday. I have lost my paddle power but luckily the rest is like riding a bike now, but only after 12 years of surfing everyday.
I dunno. I'm babbling. I just had a great bouldering session but maybe it's time for some saltw#ter therapy.
My project will still be there...but will my callouses?
Edit
The only time i climbed and surfed in the same day was sick. Santa Ana low humidity at Rainbow, low tide backlit mysto barrels at Oside jetty. That's livin right there!
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The Warbler
climber
the edge of America
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Jan 29, 2012 - 08:04pm PT
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Jefe,
Many times I've surfed La Jolla and bouldered Rainbow in the afternoon! A good surf session takes the edge off your pull down power, but no better way to get a good night's sleep.
There are some great climbing areas within striking distance of the surf in Baja, and I've had many morning surfs followed by steep bouldering, and then evening glass off.
Haven't done that for way too long...
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Jan 29, 2012 - 08:17pm PT
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Jan 29, 2012 - 08:34pm PT
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KW-
"I haven't done that in way too long"
Maybe we should change that.
Jonesing for both.
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Slater
Trad climber
Central Coast
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Jan 29, 2012 - 08:42pm PT
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both good!
(for me) An awesome surf session beats a day at the crag. Way less frequent. More rare to get.
But climbing is steady and it's easier to score.
Every day of climbing is good. Just show up.
Not every day of surfing is good. Wind, tide, swell. More fickle.
Both will stoke you for sure.
They partner well together. If it's flat, go climbing!
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The Warbler
climber
the edge of America
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Jan 29, 2012 - 08:45pm PT
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Don't see it happening this year Jefe, with my recent ankle surgery and 7 yr old and new business effort.
I hate to say it, but it's true.
This thread is firing up some pumping good memories, though!
Maybe next year...
If you come thru SD, give a holler, and I might have baja some wave/climbing beta you're not already on to.
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dave
climber
Earth
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Jan 29, 2012 - 09:17pm PT
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I have lost my paddle power but luckily the rest is like riding a bike now
I'll second that. Luckily it comes back after a few noodle-y arm sessions.
I grew up at the beach, I'll be 40 this summer been surfing since I was about 5. I live up on the east side of sierra now, climbing is the only thing to ever take me from the ocean but has never taken the ocean from me.
Drjefe, i'd be surprised if we haven't surfed or even climbed together. I lived in Oceanside from 1991 more or less till spring of 2000. I go there quite often and usually still get about 10 - 15 days in a year. Luckily my wife comes from the 2nd. largest family on the big island so I get around there a bit as well.
Only a surfer knows the feeling.
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Jan 29, 2012 - 09:32pm PT
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Hey brah I'm from earth too!
Lived in S. San Clemente.
Edit:
Surfing is the only thing to make me leave my gear in storage 400 miles away.
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briham89
Trad climber
los gatos. ca
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Jan 29, 2012 - 09:42pm PT
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Being tall generally helps with climbing for me, but sure does make it hard to get barreled on smaller days.
Making crazy faces sure does seem to help though
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thaDood
Mountain climber
PortaLedga OnzaKaleefa
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Jan 29, 2012 - 10:18pm PT
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When I was surfing 12 months a year my resting heartbeat was 48bpm. I remember because in one of my biology classes in college the instructor had us take it at the begginning of each class. Once I started dividing my time between climbing & skiing that changed.
Surfing also builds up your lats & burns fat. So all of those compliment your climbing in some way.
As far as comparing one to the other, if I could only do one it would be surfing. And I have put many years into all three. Seemed like everytime I was on a wall all I could think about was overhead barrels.
@ dave, that wave pic you took from the boat looks like todos/killers!
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