socialclimber
Trad climber
CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 29, 2012 - 10:53am PT
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Randy Leavitt once said in a short article that the best day surfing was better than the best day climbing...
My piece on it: the ratio of time spent climbing on a climbing trip is greater than the time spent actually standing on a board on a surf trip of same duration.
For me on the coast I can sneak in a surf in the morning before work, to do that with climbing I usually have to gym it...
At the end of this mornings session though I had about 5 waves, 2 of which were memorable and overall I felt like telling people I had gone out to work on my paddling rather than surfing...
Charles
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dmons
climber
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Jan 29, 2012 - 11:10am PT
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entirely different pursuits
stone isnt a fluid in terms of mortals
were still arguing how hard 9a climbed 20 years ago really are
you cant take two pictures of waves which are the same
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The Warbler
climber
the edge of America
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Jan 29, 2012 - 11:19am PT
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Surfing's got more instant gratification. And way more assh0les where the waves are good.
They both happen in a beautiful natural environment.
Better to climb hard before surfing hard than vice versa.
Hard to beat surfing a perfect point with just your buddies out, provided your none of your buddies is a wave hog on a longboard.
The rock never changes, every wave is different.
You can surf in the rain.
It used to be that there were no hotties at the crag, and stacks on the beach, but I hear that's changed...
Can't think of two activities which go together better.
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go-B
climber
Habakkuk 3:19 Sozo
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Jan 29, 2012 - 11:39am PT
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With both you don't want to fall at the lip!
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karodrinker
Trad climber
San Jose, CA
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Jan 29, 2012 - 11:42am PT
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I love surfing, I love climbing. ...so yes.
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briham89
Trad climber
los gatos. ca
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Jan 29, 2012 - 11:46am PT
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Both leave you with a deep appreciation of nature....both suck when crowded
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Jan 29, 2012 - 12:13pm PT
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surfing is fun.
climbing is fun.
sufing has better looking women....
climber chick's are...overall just not nice.
i've had the same fun both surfing and climbing in the same day!
the rock is always there so climbing is better is not a good enuff excuse.
Mondos
Pitas point.
County line
Frumy is going for it.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Jan 29, 2012 - 12:21pm PT
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I'm a far better climber than I am a surfer, but there is something to surfing that keeps bringing me back.
Now, billygoating into a chute filled with waist deep fluff, making the turn and blasting out into the bowl at sixty? That is truly sublime, and I don't suck at it like I do at surfing.
Surfing rules.
Climbing rules.
Difficult skiing rules.
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socialclimber
Trad climber
CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 29, 2012 - 12:24pm PT
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I think this morning I was struck by the risk differences v. payoff and the amount of time engaged in the actual act... both are meaningless in most respects when thought of from a survival perspective, but in a mental health standpoint I think the are both invaluable... and when I just try to have a singular activity boredom sets in... I like the comment about surfing being more fluid/harmonious with the natural environment (at least the activity itself is, the surf industry as a whole could use some cleanliness...)
as far as access is concerned: I have to drive further to climb, but I know the rock is good, this morning time spent driving was half of our session... can't surf where its flat... suppose you can't climb where its flat either...
Charles
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karodrinker
Trad climber
San Jose, CA
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Jan 29, 2012 - 01:48pm PT
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head high in Santa Cruz, I'll be enjoying the waves tomorrow! And hitting up castle rock state park for bouldering on the way home. Whoop whoop phuck yea!
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Jan 29, 2012 - 02:24pm PT
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it's hitting pretty good at c-street which is near the patagonia shop.
nice thread charles.
reminds me of the video 180 south!
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socialclimber
Trad climber
CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 29, 2012 - 02:55pm PT
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The more I think about it the less I buy the fluidity argument, water sports are fluid by default, but watching a truly adept climber, one whose technique allows fluid movement over a decidedly solid substance, is as moving as watching a surfer with similar skills... likewise being the climber or surfer who can move with little interruption over rock is amazing and feels very similar in my opinion (of course this argument negates the speed factor).
Charles
We were at asilomar sb earlier and the variety of surfers was great, some into power, some into the real open soft turn and glide of the line... others falling over themselves trying to understand just how the hell you stand up...
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socialclimber
Trad climber
CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 29, 2012 - 03:03pm PT
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Follow-up to nab #13 - rather watch a climbing film or surfing film? Ten years ago I would have said surf, but climbing films are getting very good.
Charles
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eKat
Trad climber
BITD3
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Jan 29, 2012 - 03:06pm PT
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They always went hand in hand for me. . . can't tell you how many hundreds of times I've driven from YOSE/Mammoth to SoCal. . . runnin' from one dream to chase another.
:-)
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east side underground
Trad climber
Hilton crk,ca
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Jan 29, 2012 - 04:00pm PT
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the 4 S club:
Surf
ski
stone
sex
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karodrinker
Trad climber
San Jose, CA
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Jan 29, 2012 - 04:07pm PT
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only 4? What about skating, swearing, sweeping, singing. Yeah we do all that stuff round here, call ourselves the 24 S club. Were pretty rad.
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east side underground
Trad climber
Hilton crk,ca
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Jan 29, 2012 - 04:32pm PT
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Karo , you are rad! But the 4 S are the ones that you: will quit your job, blow-off loved ones , sell your soul, but hey if you feel that way about square- dancing, all the power to ya!
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weschrist
Gym climber
left sac
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Jan 29, 2012 - 04:36pm PT
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In Utah all the hard climbers used to golf. A real man's sport.
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dave
climber
Earth
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Jan 29, 2012 - 05:07pm PT
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In Utah all the hard climbers used to golf. A real man's sport.
I think its a game rather than a sport, and a damn hard one as well.
Nothing in the world quite like this though:
I find it to be THE perfect compliment to climbing. Balance, timing and patience.
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socialclimber
Trad climber
CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 29, 2012 - 05:08pm PT
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@ Dave,
1 - can I come with you at some point?
2 - can't tell the size of the wave in the first picture, but the form is great!
@ Wes,
Golf was how I got out of tradition PE in high school, they wouldn't have a surf team and I had no idea climbing could be a competitive sport at that point...
Charles
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