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nature
climber
Aridzona for now Denver.... here I come...
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Jan 19, 2012 - 03:10pm PT
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neversummer
Trad climber
30 mins. from suicide USA
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Jan 19, 2012 - 03:16pm PT
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Put me down for 2...
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Jan 19, 2012 - 03:20pm PT
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I had one as a pet back in Ukraine, but had to put it to sleep after it killed one of my hamsters.
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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Jan 19, 2012 - 03:25pm PT
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i will take 20......Pet.. or meat....
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Jan 19, 2012 - 03:26pm PT
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I had a pet squirrel I saved as a baby, so I can give you the scoop.
Baby squirrels are pretty cute and cuddly and mine was tame when he was little. As he got bigger he got more dangerous. Every vertical object (including humans) = TREE to them. They are fast and have long claws. My arms neck and face were covered in bloody scratches for months and he destroyed the house. I'm lucky I still have both eyes. The minute he hit puberty he went totally feral and couldn't be handled at all, so no... they do not make good pets.
I just turned mine loose in the yard and let him go free.
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Bruce Morris
Social climber
Belmont, California
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Jan 19, 2012 - 03:29pm PT
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A squirrel is a good first project for a beginning student taxidermist. Not much skin to treat with alum; easy wire frame mount. Remember to buy some nice beady glass eyes before you begin the project. Change out the old blade in your scalpel too.
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Jan 19, 2012 - 03:31pm PT
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Then there's those Jedi squirrels that have gone to the dark side.
You REALLY don't want to mess with them.
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apogee
climber
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Jan 19, 2012 - 03:33pm PT
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I have a neighbor who rehabs squirrels in our area- they get slaughtered on the roads regularly around here. She's been doing it for many years, and the local community knows this well, so she has dealt with dozens and dozens of them over the years.
There have been a few who wound up as longer term 'pets' due to the extent of their injuries (one in particular had damaged their spine in a fall from a tree when their bugkilled pinetree home was cut down), but they don't stick around any longer than necessary. Eventually, they wind up being set free for the reasons jtm describes above.
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Jan 19, 2012 - 03:34pm PT
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What did you do with it's nuts?
Ate them. Squirrel nuts in my borsh was great!
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Jan 19, 2012 - 03:40pm PT
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i once had a golden mantle squirrel for a pet.. The dood just couldnt help but nip me when hand feeding him snacks! It was like he was perfectly at home for a few nibbles, then he would sneak in a little nibble off my hand or fingers! Never did get used to that.
how did you kill it?
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Gary
climber
That Long Black Cloud Is Coming Down
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Jan 19, 2012 - 03:55pm PT
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Flying squirrels are the hot commodity. Plus you get to sell the extras, like a bonding pouch.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jan 19, 2012 - 04:10pm PT
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Uh, I have some squirrels in my hood who don't think highly of cages...
As for those damn noisy parrots let's talk. A few years ago I had a pair
of Cockatoos hanging out in my pecan tree for like a month! They woulda
been worth $3-4 grand! Maybe more to Crimpie in Colorado. I think the
resident Great Horned Owl got 'em - they were kinds hurtin' in the camo department.
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Grampa
Trad climber
OC in So Cal
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Jan 19, 2012 - 04:12pm PT
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I saw a guy in Huntington Beach this weekend with a possum on a leash. Ugly, yet cute, but watch out for those teeth.
The possum did not look too happy.
( How do you spell possum ? )
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squishy
Mountain climber
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Jan 19, 2012 - 04:15pm PT
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I looked into getting one a few years ago, they are great as babies but they are not a good pet once they become adults. Selling such an animal would be kinda sad, there are plenty of rehab places that need help, go volunteer and take care of the squirrels if you want to play with them. Or raise one as a baby then let it go once the call of the wild sets in. I have a large tree outside my place, with plenty of squirrels in it, it would be a great place to let them run free once they hit puberty.
here's a good read on it.
http://nature-talk.com/wildlife/squirrels/buying-squirrels.html
a good alternative would be a ferret or a chinchilla they make much better pets.
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neversummer
Trad climber
30 mins. from suicide USA
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Jan 19, 2012 - 08:02pm PT
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Ideas for after the "cute baby" thing wears off...
4 squirrels, cut into pieces
1 c. chopped onion
4 cloves garlic
1/2 c. burgundy wine
1 tbsp. chopped parsley
1 tbsp. flour
1 stick butter
1/2 c. chopped green bell pepper
1 tbsp. Worcestershire sauce
1 tbsp. chopped onion tops
4 oz. or more mushrooms
Tony's creole seasoning
Cut each squirrel into 8 pieces. Season with creole seasoning. Melt butter in a Dutch oven and fry squirrel pieces until browned all over (and starts to stick to the pot). Add a cup of chopped onions, 1/2 cup of bell peppers and 4 cloves of garlic. When vegetables are soft, add a small amount of cold water and Worcestershire sauce. Cover pot and let simmer one hour. Stir well, add 1/2 cup wine. Cook until tender. Add flour to mushroom liquid, onion tops, parsley and mushrooms. Cook 5 minutes. Combine with squirrels. Serve over rice. Serves 8.
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Hilt
Social climber
Utah
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Jan 19, 2012 - 09:46pm PT
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I know two people who had pet squirrels. Yup, they get older and wham, all their cuteness is gone and they wreck havoc. Go rescue a cat or dog, they get better with age and they are the best pets.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jan 19, 2012 - 10:06pm PT
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I have a pet squirrel that lives under a boulder outisde my condo...My daughter and i named it Sandy after the squirrel on sponge bob...Sandy loves jeffrey cones...Sandy says hello to all the taco members out there..RJ
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Jan 19, 2012 - 10:10pm PT
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One of my favorite random websites.
"All Squirrels Must Die"
"Home of the squirrel defamation league"
http://deadsquirrel.com/
... although it is FAR less entertaining since they shut down the squirrel-hater's forum. The avatar pics were priceless.
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Jim Clipper
Social climber
from: forests to tree farms
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Jan 22, 2012 - 04:16pm PT
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Life imitates art or something like that ...
[Click to View YouTube Video]
[Click to View YouTube Video]
I was really looking for a better music for the second one. Maybe a little more like the first...
[Click to View YouTube Video]
But seriously, take a look at glide ratios of flying animals, physiology, center of mass, etc.
I imagine Mr. Gill, arms perpendicular to his shoulders (forward attack?), with a bed sheet tied to his hands a feet might have given modern jumpers a run for their money. Finally, I would guess that some women could have done much the same, but rings aren't for girls ... (ummm, yeah! boys).
addendum: wing sweep, drag, angle of attack, golf ball divots on the ventral surface to increase laminar flow, well groomed chest hair?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jan 22, 2012 - 07:39pm PT
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You just knew a richard gere joke was going to appear...RJ
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perswig
climber
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Jan 22, 2012 - 08:36pm PT
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Hester on release day.
Dale
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perswig
climber
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Jan 22, 2012 - 08:51pm PT
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Apple.
When polled, the local osprey population overwhelmingly preferred it as their garnish for squirrel al fresco.
We aim to please.
Dale
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Jan 22, 2012 - 11:32pm PT
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Hankster, is that really one of your photos?
I thought squirrels are aggressive, and would f things up if touched by humans??
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Jan 23, 2012 - 01:07am PT
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Toadgas, couldn't ya burn their testicles out with a wood-burning pen when they are young? That may make them calm and people can enjoy them as pets. Or, you could also sell the wood-burning pens to your customers when the squirrels get a little older.
Sound business advice: Come up with an "upsell" item to increase each transaction. Looks like you've got a business partner.
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Jan 23, 2012 - 08:14am PT
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I'm with ya Hank.
Monkeys... Meh. Hate 'em.
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go-B
climber
Habakkuk 3:19 Sozo
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Jan 23, 2012 - 10:35am PT
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jan 23, 2012 - 11:19am PT
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My sharp-eyed electrician noticed the effing little bushy-tailed tree rats
have almost chewed through the neutral on my service! Yeah, as in #00 thick-azz wire!
"Mmmmm, this aluminum tastes sooooo gud!"
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Feb 11, 2012 - 01:07pm PT
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I'm with ya Hank.
Monkeys... Meh. Hate 'em.
These white ones are the more noble ones... Still... today I'm approaching a bridge across the Ganges and his big white monkey jumps in front of me and pokes me in the chest.
I'm like WTF! But realize I have a carrot in my mind.
Ok Dude, if you insist, here's the carrot
Peace
Karl
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Feb 11, 2012 - 02:08pm PT
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Hate monkey and monkey type things. Got attacked by a foul Macaque years ago. Hate hate hate and it's not too strong a word.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Feb 11, 2012 - 02:30pm PT
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That fecker is in Florida somewhere last I heard Tim. It was mean and horrible. I'm glad it didn't attack you too (I wasn't the first). Thank goodness his teeth were ground down (he probably doesn't agree) - see the canines they have? I wouldn't have my calf if it weren't the case.
I still am angry about the attack and everyone's response. True, no skin was broken (hence my parents laughing at it as if it was nothing). No sharp teeth, but he had CRUSHING jaws. He mashed up my leg so good the doctor was concerned about blood clots getting me. It too a long time for my leg to heal.
The mom next door (who loved that spawn of satan so much she didn't care when it attached her own kids) died of pancreatic cancer a year or so after I was attacked. Months later, the dad was killed in a car wreck. So, the family is gone and the monkey was allegedly shipped to FL. Hopefully it's getting better care and nothing or no one else was ever attacked.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Feb 11, 2012 - 02:53pm PT
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Monkeys can't be trusted.
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part-time communist
climber
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Feb 11, 2012 - 02:55pm PT
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(I've also been working with possums, trying to make them less ornery.)
Ha!!
;)
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Feb 11, 2012 - 03:00pm PT
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Love squirrels. Some wander in the house here in the Spring. Pretty cute! No need for additional pets though.
Mom grew up with one - had him for years. An unfortunate slipping accident (ice) ended his life prematurely. :/
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Feb 11, 2012 - 03:07pm PT
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Full on attack. He'd gotten out and I was outside. They are very strong. He chewed up my leg, was clawing at me, bit my fingers - wanted me to pick it up and I wouldn't. Pulled me to the ground. I barely made it back into the house. Very ugly and super scary. Have you seen the stories where they eat off faces, fingers, testicles, etc? It was awful.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 11, 2012 - 03:28pm PT
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Monkeys suck as pets. Our friend rescued a pair of Capucins who were due to
be offed by the research lab at a certain prestigious university he was at.
Sometimes he wondered if he had erred in saving them after he was savaged
a few times. All this despite building them a huge and wonderful outdoor
enclosure with access to an inside enclosure during the frigid California
winters. But then gratitude is also a sentiment many a human finds unable to display.
Of course those poor things had good reason to distrust humans.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Feb 11, 2012 - 03:38pm PT
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Exactly. She babied it and allowed it to crawl on her shoulders (even though it was as big as it was). The man, her husband, was abusive toward it. That dynamic was bad - the meaner he was, the more tolerant she was and the more damage the beast did, so the meaner the man became, etc.
So the monkey had gotten out again and come over to my parent's property. He was at their chicken pen (had a thing about pulling the chicken's heads off which was pretty uncool). Anyway, the man next door starts coming over to try to get beast home. Beast sees dad and I think panics. Runs to me to save it (I think in his mind, woman is safe, man is bad). I'm not touching going to pick it up, so it appeared to get very angry at me so it lashed out. It's got me down chomping on me and the man is yelling "kick it as hard as you can!" I couldn't even manage that. I thought I was gonna have my toes chomped off.
You know when people say they are strong? Well, they are beyond your wildest dreams strong. Freakishly strong. And fast.
Now, I hate that beast for sure. But I also felt very sorry for it. It should not be a pet. It should not have had his teeth ground down (ow). It shouldn't have been brutalized by the tyrant dad. Still, following my attack, I was 100% prepared to put a bullet in that beast if I saw it again. Had that attack happened to one of my nieces, I wonder if they would have survived.
BTW, it was featured in an "Animal Cops Houston" episode. It had attacked someone in the city limits. Rather than dealing with it - and that it had repeatedly attacked the three kids in the family - the family moved out to a more rural area as a result.
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part-time communist
climber
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Feb 11, 2012 - 03:42pm PT
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I'm still a little stupefied as to why they are even allowed to be pets?
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Feb 11, 2012 - 03:59pm PT
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Me too Toadgas. I'd shoot from the boat though.
That video guarantees a nightmare tonight. Ugh.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Feb 11, 2012 - 04:29pm PT
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Yes, apologize for the thread drift.
Squirrels are cute!
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Feb 11, 2012 - 04:51pm PT
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Hahaha! Excellent visual Toadgas.
You'd think he'd learn by how Grizzly Man's life ended. Chomp chomp chomp.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 11, 2012 - 05:01pm PT
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I'm still a little stupefied as to why they are even allowed to be pets?
If said monkeys are lab rescues then perhaps 'pet' is a misnomer but would
you not make an exception for them?
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Feb 11, 2012 - 05:12pm PT
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Rescues should not be kept as pets, but on a wildlife refuges. Doubt there is enough of such places though.
We have a wildlife sanctuary near Boulder - full of mostly tigers. There are also panthers, lions, camels and other assorted critters that had been pets. There are more live tigers living in the state of Texas than there are in the native lands now! Stupid pet trade.
(All the while acknowledging that I have some Lilac Crowned Parrots. While all of mine, except Henri, were born in my home, I still believe their proper place is the wild. Sadly, their wild environment have been decimated, and the captive bred ones cannot be released. It'd be certain death).
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 11, 2012 - 05:22pm PT
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Well, Crimps, in my friend's case those monks were in effect at a rescue
facility. Especially seeing as how David had done post-grad research on the
nasties* and actually made no effort to domesticize them. The only times he
handled them were when they bolted and then it got ugly - welder's gloves
only diminished the carnage!
* In the wilds of Peru. He was not associated with the lab that had used them.
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Dirka
Trad climber
SF
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Feb 11, 2012 - 05:28pm PT
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It started as teaching a squirrel to catch. Took a bit but he learned after many beaners. Then he ate from my hand. Then he was caught with blue berry pie all over his now purple face; hence his name blueberry. But after he became familiar with my kitchen cabinets and ate all my food when I was out, I had to administer the tuff (squirt gun) love.
DON'T ENCOURAGE THEM!
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Feb 11, 2012 - 05:29pm PT
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Rescue facility sounds good too.
I just strongly believe they shouldn't live in a house and be treated like a pet - dressed up in frilly outfits, roaming freely in a home, put on a leash to take into public, etc.
I think we are on the same page about that, no?
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part-time communist
climber
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Feb 11, 2012 - 05:59pm PT
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British animal liberation activists break into a laboratory in Cambridge and are caught by a scientist while trying to free some chimpanzees being used for medical research. Despite the warnings of the chief scientist that the chimps are infected with a virus dubbed "Rage", which he claims is highly contagious and only takes one bite to spread, the activists open the cages anyway and release the chimpanzees. A chimp attacks a female activist and immediately infects her, and she in turn infects the other members of the group, including the chief scientist when he attempts to kill her.
Does this ring a bell for anyone?
Seems like there is a high prevalence of the use of chimps being associated with viruses, rage, and zombie movies.
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Dirka
Trad climber
SF
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Feb 11, 2012 - 06:25pm PT
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Toadgas...
I assure you that my squirrel was purple due to the pie that I tossed him!
Your science is beyond my trader joes.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 11, 2012 - 06:38pm PT
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Oh, Crimpie, we are most certainly in agreement. If'n you can't handle 'em
for their own good with welder's gloves then you ain't gonna dress 'em in
no kinda outfit. ;-)
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tornado
climber
lawrence kansas
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as they say in bouldering "niiiice"
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