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Gramicci
Social climber
Ventura
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Mar 23, 2006 - 07:46pm PT
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I always admired Gunnar Swanson’s cartoons but never met him. Doubt he was drawing me. Rob, wasn’t your friend Jim quite tall with big ears? Time period puts it early in the game was Sybelle even around? Like the hairy legs though, guess that should be a give a way.
I couldn’t venture to guess anyone
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rmuir
Social climber
the Time Before the Rocks Cooled.
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 23, 2006 - 08:15pm PT
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Gramicci said: "I couldn’t venture to guess anyone."
Ouch! Re-reading your post, I'm not sure that "venture(ing) to guess" means what you think it means, Vizzini.
Yeah, Gunnar was definitely around during that era... In actuality, I think that most of his cartoons were caricatures and probably weren't portraits of any specific in-duh-vidual. Remember that that cartoon was drawn in Berkeley, after a few cups. And, let's face it... We were all archetypes, so he couldn't miss.
Here's another Swanson drawing, also made at the same time:
Yeah, maybe you're right. Tobin.
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rmuir
Social climber
the Time Before the Rocks Cooled.
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 24, 2006 - 12:42pm PT
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"spring chicken" indeed.
Henny, you're really going to need a whole mess o' ammo reloads to carry-out your retribution should the threatened photo ever surface. Ropegun™. Ho man!
Here's an Old Dad shot you can add to your bandolero:
(Muir, stepping right into the cross-fire.)
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Tommy Tope Rope
Social climber
Telluride
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Mar 24, 2006 - 05:00pm PT
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Try again,
Hey Guys , guess who ? Graham you remember how cold it was that January in Jt. I followed Largo up my first solo of the damper . ? my hands were rattling no tape, had to mash em to stay in the crack. then I threw up at the top.
LARGO ALWAYS THE SAND BAGGER.
any guess's?
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pc
climber
Eastside
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Mar 24, 2006 - 05:05pm PT
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Uh...Steve West?
;)
Cheated...
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Tommy Tope Rope
Social climber
Telluride
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Mar 24, 2006 - 05:13pm PT
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Hey guys, is that U Peter? Trying to get Steve Sutton on board.
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rbolton
Social climber
The home for...
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Mar 24, 2006 - 05:55pm PT
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OK Muir, its on.
I thought these guys had to wear red hats.
And is this one named dopey, sleazy, or dummy?
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Mar 24, 2006 - 06:12pm PT
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RM--
The photo of gent above looking through chicken-wing glasses. Don't know who it is, but the pillar in the background, man you are bringing my skeletons out of the closet . . .
Rather than me get all upset again, I'll just refer you to exhibit "U." U for me being really Upset. Just seeing that beautiful pillar again in the above said photo is sending me into fits once again. Maybe you can tell me who put the original 1/4" button head split shank, 3-bolt X route in? Armed with this info. I might be able to get over it and learn the truth of the matter.
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=17754#msg17754
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rmuir
Social climber
the Time Before the Rocks Cooled.
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 24, 2006 - 07:28pm PT
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Now, Klimmer, I've just spent a few minutes skimming that U thread...
It appears, for some reason, that you don't want to give away some big secret or summat. So... I'll just refer the curious to that so-called beautiful pillar behind Bolton as that area in the East, somewhere between Mississippi and Georgia, and South of Tennessee. OK?
Can't tell you much about the culprits, since the only copy of that sorry excuse for a guidebook to the area is sitting in our other library, in my Home Away from Home™. This bit of yellow journalism describes quite a few other similar hunks as well and was written by a one Mr. Michael Strassman. A gentleman with whom we have had an lengthy e-mail debate (years ago) in which he threatened to retro-bolt our exceedingly more-excellent area (by comparison) up the hill. ...claimed that our high-quality trad area--with many many bold and artistic lines mostly done ground-up, without inspections and hand-crafted with loving care--should be butchered by the insertion of many superfluous bolts (presumably placed by duffers of dubious distinction) so that the routes would be "accessible", safe and sporty! Tha bastard! (Apparently, he believes that climbing should be OSHA approved!) Fortunately, we managed to persuade (?) him to leave it the Hell out of his hunk guide.
[rant mode=soapbox]Damn. Wannabe guidebook authors should be required to butt-out until they've learned to respect the compositions crafted by the FA artists. If we wanted it "safe", we would've installed hand rails! Quality routes aren't written for the masses. Deal with it, and respect it.[/rant]
Get yourself a copy of that advertisement-ridden rag and inspect the Pillar stuff carefully. As I recall, he isn't too shy in naming names. Google can probably get you to their home addresses, if you need to make some house calls.
Now... Back to the discussions at hand. Where where we?
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Mar 24, 2006 - 07:37pm PT
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RM--
Thanks. I was hoping you knew the FA party that put up the original route on "Pillar of Light." Oh well.
Yes, I do have the said guide now, that was 3 years ago. I never contacted him. Not sure I want to. I'm still afraid of getting sued (he-he).
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rmuir
Social climber
the Time Before the Rocks Cooled.
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 24, 2006 - 07:40pm PT
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Or going to jail? ;-)
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Mar 24, 2006 - 08:07pm PT
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Hahaha, I thought that looked like the base of the shar, errr, pillar of light. Had a fun day poking around there a couple years ago. Didja know that Strassman once wrote a guidebook to the midmountain area on Mt. Lemmon and included routes with names and ratings that hadn't even been put up yet?
Okay, here's your Stonemaster tie in: rumor has it Largo has taken up this hobby, practiced here nearby the Junior Birdman dude.
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Gramicci
Social climber
Ventura
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Mar 24, 2006 - 08:13pm PT
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West, you made it! That was damm cold in JT, I remember.
Tommy top rope? Haha… don’t take all the chauffeuring around stuff to heart.
Hey help me out here, when we first did Valhalla back in the dark ages what was Alan’s last name and any other recollections of that busy weekend.
I sent you a new link as well to the other inquiry; check your email (which was the giveaway by the way)
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Tommy Tope Rope
Social climber
Telluride
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Mar 24, 2006 - 09:00pm PT
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RE: Vallhala, Tobin had just done what the third ascent with a 12 year old belay slave named Mikey? THAT got you fired up !! To hell with protocol and we jumped on the next day. Alan you mean skinny alan, I don't remeber yet, to much chivas..
steve
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Gramicci
Social climber
Ventura
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Mar 24, 2006 - 09:05pm PT
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HaHaHa Steve,
You just called Darrell Hensel a 12 year old belay slave!
Priceless!
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Mar 24, 2006 - 09:07pm PT
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Go Muir, Go! Tell you what, maybe one of us can draw his fire and the other can sneak around behind him.
The guy with the stupid (oops, I meant stylish) glasses is none other than our own special rbolton.
Klimmer: Man, what a bunch of spew in the "U" thread!!!! I guess people just don't get it. Like Robs said, we're lucky that the non-sense didn't make it up the hill. We're still putting in execellent routes up there that aren't even for the masses. And we'll continue to do so. Could say much more about this, but I think I better get back on topic.
Steve: Tobin did the 5th with Bob Kessinger and myself. There was a post on this in the part 2 thread. I think I was older than 12 at the time....
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henny
Social climber
The Past
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Mar 24, 2006 - 09:10pm PT
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Hilarious!!!
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Tommy Tope Rope
Social climber
Telluride
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Mar 24, 2006 - 09:15pm PT
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Ok, then who the hell was Mikey ? Tobin was sitting at the base of smooth sole , and he had this little neighbor kid , what did they do that was HUGE?
Just catching up . that was a long time ago ?
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Gramicci
Social climber
Ventura
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Mar 24, 2006 - 09:19pm PT
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West, I was hoping I could count on your memory here but I may need to rethink this after that post. Funny though, how Tobin never mentioned doing it with Henny and Bobby. It was cool for me to find out this info 33 years after the fact. He was pretty nonchalant about it I remember. Part of what fired me up, for sure.
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Tommy Tope Rope
Social climber
Telluride
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Mar 24, 2006 - 09:44pm PT
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Ok ,, bobby, or mikey sounds the same..>>>>>>
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