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pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Nov 12, 2013 - 11:37am PT
Meaning that people actually have to vote TWICE just to make their vote count.

didn't Obama have some counties in ohio figured the same way?
bus after bus sponsored by Obama.
rSin

Trad climber
calif
Nov 12, 2013 - 02:46pm PT
buses from prescincts where the states GOP election official CLOSED POLLING LOCATIONS after CLOSING VOTER REGISTRATION LOCATIONS???


the only voter fraud is in absentee ballotting.
the only voter reform is designed to attack democratic voters...

NOT stop fraud


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f62BHH4xMXw
MikeL

climber
SANTA CLARA, CA
Nov 12, 2013 - 02:49pm PT
Hi, JEleazarian

I don't know where you are located, but here at SCU there is a talk being given by Chris Benner at 8:30 in the morning at Nobili Hall Dining Room on the 19th of this month. I hope to attend. You might appreciate the complexity of the research study he'll be reporting.

http://equity.lsnc.net/just-growth-and-the-future-of-the-next-economy/

Mike
Dr. F.

Trad climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 12, 2013 - 04:10pm PT
Our good friend JEleazarian lives in Fresno, California
less than 2 hours from Yosemite Valley



Credit: Dr. F.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Nov 12, 2013 - 05:52pm PT


A real Unaffordable Healthcare Tax ad you paid for.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Nov 12, 2013 - 07:43pm PT
And?
bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Nov 13, 2013 - 06:57am PT
http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2013/11/12/calif-insurance-commissioner-more-than-1m-californians-having-insurance-cancelled-due-to-obamacare/


TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Nov 13, 2013 - 07:09am PT
We have to pass it to find out what's in it

Nancy Pelosi



That's what we call a stool sample.


Actual M.D.
Dr. F.

Trad climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 13, 2013 - 09:17am PT
Republicans can't win elections fairly anymore, so how else can they carry out their facist agenda without rigging the system so they win anyway.



How Republicans Rig the Game
Through gerrymandering, voter suppression and legislative tricks, the GOP has managed to hold on to power while more and more Americans reject their candidates and their ideas.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-republicans-rig-the-game-20131111#ixzz2kXyRSR7T

By Tim Dickinson
November 11, 2013 10:35 AM

As the nation recovers from the Republican shutdown of government, the question Americans should be asking is not "Why did the GOP do that to us?" but "Why were they even relevant in the first place?" So dramatically have the demographic and electoral tides in this country turned against the Republican Party that, in a representative democracy worthy of the designation, the Grand Old Party should be watching from the sidelines and licking its wounds. Not only did Barack Obama win a second term in an electoral landslide in 2012, but he is also just the fourth president in a century to have won two elections with more than 50 percent of the popular vote. What's more, the party controls 55 seats in the Senate, and Democratic candidates for the House received well over a million more votes than their Republican counterparts in the election last year. And yet, John Boehner still wields the gavel in the House and Republican resistance remains a defining force in the Senate, frustrating Obama's ambitious agenda.

The GOP's real agenda: How Republicans' politics are harsher than ever

How is this possible? National Republicans have waged an unrelenting campaign to exploit every weakness and anachronism in our electoral system. Through a combination of hyperpartisan redistricting of the House, unprecedented obstructionism in the Senate and racist voter suppression in the states, today's GOP has locked in political power that it could never have secured on a level playing field.

Despite the fact that Republican Congressional candidates received nearly 1.4 million fewer votes than Democratic candidates last November, the Republicans lost only eight seats from their historic 2010 romp, allowing them to preserve a fat 33-seat edge in the House. Unscrupulous Republican gerrymandering following the 2010 census made the difference, according to a statistical analysis conducted by the Princeton Election Consortium. Under historically typical redistricting, House Republicans would now likely be clinging to a reedy five-seat majority. "There's the normal tug of war of American politics," says Sam Wang, founder of the consortium. "Trying to protect one congressman here, or unseat another one there." The Princeton model was built, he says, to detect "whether something got pulled off-kilter on top of that."

Did it ever. In Pennsylvania, Democratic candidates took 51 percent of the vote across the state's 18 districts, but only five of the seats. In Wang's model, the odds against Democrats emerging at an eight-seat disadvantage are 1,000-to-1. And Pennsylvania was not alone. According to the Election Consortium analysis, gerrymandering helped Republicans secure 13 seats in just six states including Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Virginia and North Carolina that, under normal rules of engagement, Democrats would have won.

This tilting of the electoral playing field was the result of a sophisticated campaign coordinated at the highest levels of Republican politics through a group called the Republican State Leadership Committee (RSLC) a Super-PAC-like entity chaired by Bush-era RNC chairman Ed Gillespie and backed by Karl Rove. Shortly after President Obama's first election, the RSLC launched the Redistricting Majority Project (REDMAP) with an explicit strategy to "keep or win Republican control of state legislatures with the largest impact on congressional redistricting." The logic was simple. Every decade following the census, the task of redrawing federal congressional-district boundaries falls (with some exceptions) to the state legislatures. If Republicans could seize control of statehouses and, where necessary, have GOP governors in place to rubber-stamp their redistricting maps the party could lock in new districts that would favor Republican candidates for a decade. As Rove wrote in a Wall Street Journal column in early 2010: "He who controls redistricting can control Congress."

In short order, the RSLC raised more than $30 million to fund Rove's vision while its hapless counterpart, the Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee, raised barely one-third of that amount. "The Obama people simply didn't understand what was happening to them in 2010," says a prominent Democrat. "They just sat it out, and Republicans ran up the score."

The RSLC was particularly focused on states that stood to gain or lose seats. Ohio, for example, would lose two to states with faster population growth. Instead of tweaking the boundaries of existing districts, mapmakers would be empowered in these states to draw new boundaries more or less from scratch providing "maximum opportunity for mischief," in the words of RSLC president and former REDMAP executive director Chris Jankowski. "You certainly don't want your opponent drawing those lines." On election night in 2010, propelled by Tea Party anger and the RSLC's millions, the GOP seized full-party control of 21 state governments up from nine the previous year and enough to put the party in charge of redistricting 173 House seats. "Democrats," bragged Jankowski, "will not soon recover from what happened to them on a state level last night."

In past elections, a gentleman's agreement prevailed among sitting politicians of both parties that redistricting would keep them safe. But in 2010, Gillespie told reporters, the Republican strategy would be "to maximize gains." Incumbent seats would be made somewhat less safe in service of spreading the GOP's advantage more broadly. "You'd go from these [incumbent] seats that would carve at 60 percent to seats that get carved at 54 percent," he said.

RSLC's impact was particularly clear in North Carolina. Leading up to the 2010 election, RSLC steered $1.2 million into the state to fund withering attack ads. Democratic incumbents from poor, rural districts simply didn't have the resources to defend themselves against the onslaught of outside spending and national Democrats didn't call in the cavalry. As a result, Republicans seized control of the North Carolina state assembly for the first time since Reconstruction and began plotting to take control of the state's 13-seat congressional delegation, which still swung Democrat, seven seats to six.

The GOP's War on Voting

In a letter to state legislators, Jankowski wrote, "We have taken the initiative to retain a team of seasoned redistricting experts that we will make available to you at no cost to your caucus for assistance." The RSLC brought on GOP operative Tom Hofeller, who has been in the Republican redistricting game since the 1970s.

2 more pages

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-republicans-rig-the-game-20131111#ixzz2kXyHHZJZ
Dr. F.

Trad climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 13, 2013 - 09:18am PT
Credit: Dr. F.
Dr. F.

Trad climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 13, 2013 - 09:18am PT
Republicans can't win elections fairly anymore, so how else can they carry out their facist agenda without rigging the system so they win anyway.





How Republicans Rig the Game
Through gerrymandering, voter suppression and legislative tricks, the GOP has managed to hold on to power while more and more Americans reject their candidates and their ideas.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-republicans-rig-the-game-20131111#ixzz2kXyRSR7T

By Tim Dickinson
November 11, 2013 10:35 AM

As the nation recovers from the Republican shutdown of government, the question Americans should be asking is not "Why did the GOP do that to us?" but "Why were they even relevant in the first place?" So dramatically have the demographic and electoral tides in this country turned against the Republican Party that, in a representative democracy worthy of the designation, the Grand Old Party should be watching from the sidelines and licking its wounds. Not only did Barack Obama win a second term in an electoral landslide in 2012, but he is also just the fourth president in a century to have won two elections with more than 50 percent of the popular vote. What's more, the party controls 55 seats in the Senate, and Democratic candidates for the House received well over a million more votes than their Republican counterparts in the election last year. And yet, John Boehner still wields the gavel in the House and Republican resistance remains a defining force in the Senate, frustrating Obama's ambitious agenda.

The GOP's real agenda: How Republicans' politics are worse than ever

How is this possible? National Republicans have waged an unrelenting campaign to exploit every weakness and anachronism in our electoral system. Through a combination of hyperpartisan redistricting of the House, unprecedented obstructionism in the Senate and racist voter suppression in the states, today's GOP has locked in political power that it could never have secured on a level playing field.

Despite the fact that Republican Congressional candidates received nearly 1.4 million fewer votes than Democratic candidates last November, the Republicans lost only eight seats from their historic 2010 romp, allowing them to preserve a fat 33-seat edge in the House. Unscrupulous Republican gerrymandering following the 2010 census made the difference, according to a statistical analysis conducted by the Princeton Election Consortium. Under historically typical redistricting, House Republicans would now likely be clinging to a reedy five-seat majority. "There's the normal tug of war of American politics," says Sam Wang, founder of the consortium. "Trying to protect one congressman here, or unseat another one there." The Princeton model was built, he says, to detect "whether something got pulled off-kilter on top of that."

Did it ever. In Pennsylvania, Democratic candidates took 51 percent of the vote across the state's 18 districts, but only five of the seats. In Wang's model, the odds against Democrats emerging at an eight-seat disadvantage are 1,000-to-1. And Pennsylvania was not alone. According to the Election Consortium analysis, gerrymandering helped Republicans secure 13 seats in just six states including Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Virginia and North Carolina that, under normal rules of engagement, Democrats would have won.

This tilting of the electoral playing field was the result of a sophisticated campaign coordinated at the highest levels of Republican politics through a group called the Republican State Leadership Committee (RSLC) a Super-PAC-like entity chaired by Bush-era RNC chairman Ed Gillespie and backed by Karl Rove. Shortly after President Obama's first election, the RSLC launched the Redistricting Majority Project (REDMAP) with an explicit strategy to "keep or win Republican control of state legislatures with the largest impact on congressional redistricting." The logic was simple. Every decade following the census, the task of redrawing federal congressional-district boundaries falls (with some exceptions) to the state legislatures. If Republicans could seize control of statehouses and, where necessary, have GOP governors in place to rubber-stamp their redistricting maps the party could lock in new districts that would favor Republican candidates for a decade. As Rove wrote in a Wall Street Journal column in early 2010: "He who controls redistricting can control Congress."

In short order, the RSLC raised more than $30 million to fund Rove's vision while its hapless counterpart, the Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee, raised barely one-third of that amount. "The Obama people simply didn't understand what was happening to them in 2010," says a prominent Democrat. "They just sat it out, and Republicans ran up the score."

The RSLC was particularly focused on states that stood to gain or lose seats. Ohio, for example, would lose two to states with faster population growth. Instead of tweaking the boundaries of existing districts, mapmakers would be empowered in these states to draw new boundaries more or less from scratch providing "maximum opportunity for mischief," in the words of RSLC president and former REDMAP executive director Chris Jankowski. "You certainly don't want your opponent drawing those lines." On election night in 2010, propelled by Tea Party anger and the RSLC's millions, the GOP seized full-party control of 21 state governments up from nine the previous year and enough to put the party in charge of redistricting 173 House seats. "Democrats," bragged Jankowski, "will not soon recover from what happened to them on a state level last night."

In past elections, a gentleman's agreement prevailed among sitting politicians of both parties that redistricting would keep them safe. But in 2010, Gillespie told reporters, the Republican strategy would be "to maximize gains." Incumbent seats would be made somewhat less safe in service of spreading the GOP's advantage more broadly. "You'd go from these [incumbent] seats that would carve at 60 percent to seats that get carved at 54 percent," he said.

RSLC's impact was particularly clear in North Carolina. Leading up to the 2010 election, RSLC steered $1.2 million into the state to fund withering attack ads. Democratic incumbents from poor, rural districts simply didn't have the resources to defend themselves against the onslaught of outside spending and national Democrats didn't call in the cavalry. As a result, Republicans seized control of the North Carolina state assembly for the first time since Reconstruction and began plotting to take control of the state's 13-seat congressional delegation, which still swung Democrat, seven seats to six.

The GOP's War on Voting

In a letter to state legislators, Jankowski wrote, "We have taken the initiative to retain a team of seasoned redistricting experts that we will make available to you at no cost to your caucus for assistance." The RSLC brought on GOP operative Tom Hofeller, who has been in the Republican redistricting game since the 1970s.

2 more pages

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-republicans-rig-the-game-20131111#ixzz2kXyHHZJZ

The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Nov 13, 2013 - 09:37am PT
From the article above:

Shortly after President Obama's first election, the RSLC launched the Redistricting Majority Project (REDMAP) with an explicit strategy to "keep or win Republican control of state legislatures with the largest impact on congressional redistricting."


REDMAP - isn't that special
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Nov 13, 2013 - 09:39am PT
one side fights the other while the sheep are starved and herded for the cliffs. And it will continue till WE stop it.
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Nov 13, 2013 - 12:09pm PT
Mike,

I would be interested in hearing the talk, particularly if they actually would consider questions from their critics, and also because it would provide an excuse to visit a friend of mine who is a prof at Santa Clara. However, the 19th is a rather special day for my wife and me, because we were married 30 years ago to that day -- on Nov. 19, 1983, and I rather suspect that she would appreciate my taking a rest from politics on that day

In truth, my wedding day was my ultimate bait-and-switch, because it was also the day of the Big Game. (For those who don't know, the Big Game is the football game between Cal and a Junior University in Palo Alto). My wife found out only the next year about my rather masochistic interest in Cal football.

John
bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Nov 14, 2013 - 11:02am PT
first wind turbines, now solar panels...


why do you libs hate birds so much?

http://www.portcityunderground.com/2013/11/14/solar-panels-fry-birds-along-major-migration-path/



oh, the irony...
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Nov 14, 2013 - 11:08am PT
Credit: JEleazarian

It looks like the President is finally getting the hint that he may need to fix a few things about the ACA.

John
jghedge

climber
Nov 14, 2013 - 11:29am PT


"It looks like the President is finally getting the hint that he may need to fix a few things about the ACA."


So that means Congress will finally cooperate?
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Nov 14, 2013 - 12:05pm PT
So that means Congress will finally cooperate?

I sincerely hope so, Joe, though I'm not holding my breath. At least today's WSJ Opinion section demonstrates that I'm not the only conservative who thinks we should be fixing things, not merely pointing out the imperfections of the Democrats' attempt.

I must concede one point in the Democrats' favor, though. At least they put their money where their mouths were, and passed legislation dealing with the issue. The Republicans need to do the same. Otherwise, we're merely being demagogues, as too many of both parties have been with Social Security and Medicare. Repealing the ACA, no matter how flawed that legislation is, does not constitute dealing with the problems in American health care.

John
command error

Trad climber
Colorado
Nov 14, 2013 - 12:15pm PT
What can you say about that press conference today except that
the president is insane. The pressure of his office obviously
broke him.
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Nov 14, 2013 - 12:16pm PT
Nice to hear your analysis, John.

I don't think any reasonable person expected the implementation of the ACA to be perfect out of the gate, and no reasonable person should deem it a complete failure because it is not perfect.

Some of the issues in the implementation are unacceptable. But there is no cause to believe they cannot be fixed. (As for the website, I've personally worked on government contracted IT projects and these sorts of rollout disasters are unfortunately pretty standard. Most of the problems are eventually resolved however. Fixing this one will take many months, but it can be fixed.)

The Republicans can continue with their position of "scrap the whole thing," but that doesn't answer the inevitable question of "and then what?" I think the public realizes that fixing the problems in ACA is a more likely path to progress than simply going back to square one.

Reasonable folks can understand the merits of the alternatives. But as Norton pointed out, the Republicans in congress have been going out of their way to be unreasonable.
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