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Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Oct 19, 2013 - 12:09pm PT
good post showing how even as a US Senator, the President realized spending IS a problem

and I am sure you join us all, Ron, in congratulating the President, now that the
deficit has been cut in HALF, which he PROMISED to do

thank you for pointing that out, Ron Anderson
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Oct 19, 2013 - 12:13pm PT
^^^lol
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Oct 19, 2013 - 12:15pm PT
Debt? deficit? Paleeeeeeeze....
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Oct 19, 2013 - 12:23pm PT
Debt? deficit? Paleeeeeeeze....

explain the difference Ron
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Oct 19, 2013 - 12:25pm PT
NOT AGAIN Norton..
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Oct 19, 2013 - 01:19pm PT
So the Budget and Accounting Act of 1921 requires the President to present a budget annually to the House (something this President has not done since his first term.)

Presented late, but presented:

2010:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_United_States_federal_budget

2011:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_United_States_federal_budget

2012:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_United_States_federal_budget

2013:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_United_States_federal_budget

2014:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Overview

Or if others feel no budget was presented by Obama, I wish they'd offer details on how that is. I don't see it that way.

edit: Heck, even Paul Ryan recognizes Obama's budget proposals:

http://budget.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=252305
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Oct 19, 2013 - 01:31pm PT
and.........crimpergirl steps up to the plate and slams one

back to you, Ksolem.....
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Oct 19, 2013 - 01:58pm PT
Nah. I'm not a fighter. Many people say Obama hasn't submitted budgets and I don't understand that sentiment. Ksolem is a solid guy and I like him very much. I am just curious where that position comes from.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Oct 19, 2013 - 02:29pm PT
are proposals budgets? Think,, "Continuing Appropriations Resolutions"..
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Oct 19, 2013 - 02:52pm PT
"I am just curious where that position comes from."

Credit: apogee
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Oct 19, 2013 - 02:56pm PT
Continuing Appropriations Resolutions.....


What are those Nortie and WHY were they passed last year? EdumaKate me.
jghedge

climber
Oct 19, 2013 - 03:09pm PT
"That's the budget: revenue and deficit combined."


How is that number relevant? The deficit isn't 3.4 trillion, it's 600 billion. Adding those 2 numbers together proves what?

The deficit isn't the addition of those 2, it's the subtraction of how much more was spent from how much the revenue was.


I borrowed 10k and made 50k. That doesn't mean I owe 60k. It means I owe 10k.
apogee

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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Oct 19, 2013 - 03:10pm PT
"EdumaKate me."

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Oct 19, 2013 - 03:14pm PT
It is my belief that we havent had a FORMAL BUDGET passed in quite some time.


And GUD one Apogee!!
Pepe Le Poseur

Social climber
Parts North
Oct 19, 2013 - 03:29pm PT
It is my belief that aliens are holding Elvis's brain hostage on the planet Zork
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Oct 19, 2013 - 03:31pm PT
I don't believe there is such a place as planet zork, cite your sources.
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Oct 19, 2013 - 03:43pm PT
Yes...as Ksolem noted the Prez is required to present a proposed budget. No Prez has the right to present THE budget. They must only present a proposed budget.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Oct 19, 2013 - 03:50pm PT
A letter from Brazil in response to the Yale study.

I am a Brazilian self-taught Software Engineer. I also taught myself English, to the point where I managed to hold a Cambridge CPE, despite the fact that I've never stepped on anglophonic soil and zero formal training. So my analytic and reasoning faculties seem to be in working order.

Now, with that out of the way, here's why I strongly identify with the Tea Party: in my view, they are right, and they are the US's lifeline. They represent the virtues that led to American Exceptionalism (and YES, this does exist).

I find caricaturing Tea Partiers extremely ironic, and it would be hilarious, weren't it so revolting. In my experience, being a lefty liberal is EASY. It is the default stance of the intellectually lazy. All you have to do is feel (specially "good about myself" kind of feel), and never solve anything. Here's, in my view, why:

I live in the logical endpoint of Fabian socialism. Born to and raised in a culture where the concepts of "right" and "left" are non-existent (I take that back, actually "right" is a language stand-in for "evil"). We have over 30 political parties, and they are all some variant of the left. From Social Democrat parties to "Trotsky-ish" parties. Our *current* constitution, which dates back all the way to the Guns 'n' Roses era ( 1988 ), is pretty much a Soviet Constitution (1936) copy/paste job. Culturally, the population is in pretty much a state of "1984 meets Brave New World" in terms of ideology...

...Brazil is also a country where:

- the utter government control of the private sector trough bureaucracy managed to destroy entrepreneurship. To the point that it exists, it has to deal with the accepted fact of life that the bribes which feed the corrupt bureaucrats demand to allow business to exist have to be factored in business plans.

- a crushing tax burden that sustain a permanent dependent underclass of favelados in welfare ensures the populists remain eternally in power and that any semblance upward mobility is quickly "corrected". For an employer to put 10.000 in the pocket of an employee, with will costs him nearly 18.000, so jobs market are always tepid at best so informal work and tax dodging schemes are commonplace.

- The relentless attack on Catholicism (the historical prevalent brand of Christianity practiced here) over the past decades eroded any semblance of morality form a large chunk of the country, and that coupled with utter corruption and/or incompetence of law enforcement made way for drug cartels to take over. Violence and crime spiraled to such inhuman degrees that between the 50K murders in average a year, this year we saw a soccer referee stab a player to death and then be beheaded and quartered in the field by the spectators for his trouble. His head was placed in a spike in the middle of the field, as an added dramatic bonus.

This act barely caused a murmur.

I could go on for ages with more evidence of social rot, but you probably already got the gist of it.

Now, remember, being immersed in this cultural cesspool since birth I, like most Brazilians, never even *knew* that this wasn't actually just "the way things are". I mean, we get a gut feeling that something is off, but like Plato's cave dwellers, light is something really frightening and instinctively avoided. And the *obvious* solutions by all the *smart people* are always the same: more government "compassion". More "social programs". More "awareness". Less "greediness".

Imagine my shock when by a quirk of fate a Mark Levin book ended in my hands. That led me to Burke, Locke, Smith, Mises, Friedman, Hayek and many others. Conservative philosophy is what gave me a glimpse of the shinning city in the hill and a will to fight, along with a battle plan, to improve my lot in life, and of those I can reach.

So, Dan, I understand you are surprised that your results showed Tea Partiers not the raging buffoons the media portrays them as being. The most obvious things are often the easiest to miss. But never doubt that being conservative is quite the intellectual effort, if only to overcome the moroseness of the mind that liberalism creates imposes with all its group-think and easy answers.

Best wishes,

Rodrigo
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Oct 19, 2013 - 03:54pm PT
Since when do you Repugs give a rats ass what Brazil says?

Oh, yes...I forgot...you got your asses kicked last week, so you're grasping a whatever weak-ass sauce you can scrape up...
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Oct 19, 2013 - 04:27pm PT
Actually while this statement is true the Constitution provides no framework for this process. So the Budget and Accounting Act of 1921 requires the President to present a budget annually to the House (something this President has not done since his first term.) Further budget process rules were adopted in the Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974.

It's spelled out here.

ksolem,

since you advocate that President Obama has not submitted any budgets, how do you explain this:

Republicans attack Obama's proposed 2013 budget

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/story/2012-02-12/obama-budget/53058132/1

How are they attacking something that YOU SAY was never submitted. Do I have to provide citations for every one of the last 5 years?????
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