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Gold Canyon, AZ
Oct 14, 2013 - 12:56am PT
Norton you stupid retarded jackass mind your own fuking business!

You called Ron a dumbfuk too many times.

And now you want to cram you're bullshit down his throat.

I told you you're the stupidest moron on this forum.

Mind your own fuking business idiot ....

Pot, meet Kettle.


Trad climber
Oct 14, 2013 - 02:06am PT
this ones good

Making the Democratic Party a Safe Haven for Economic Elites
What Obama Has Wrought
Will Tea Party machinations over Obamacare lead to the Republican Party’s demise?

No one, so far as I know, has quite suggested that it will. But, watching MSNBC, one gets the impression that liberals are only holding back because they don’t want to jinx the prospect or, more likely, out of understandable caution.

After all, as everybody knows, in our electoral system, it is practically impossible for “third” parties to escape marginalization. But the likelihood of that is better by orders of magnitude than the chance that one or the other of our two semi-established parties will fold.

However, it is not impossible. In threatening to default on the U.S. debt if they don’t get their way on Obamacare, Republicans come perilously close to putting the basic interests of the class they exist to serve in jeopardy. How can they get away with that?

We should also bear in mind that very unlikely political developments do sometimes occur. Almost until the moment it happened, who would have thought, for example, that the Communist Party of the Soviet Union – or, for that matter, the USSR itself – would fold?

More likely, though, the Democratic Party will just become stronger. Their grip on the White House and their control over less benighted regions of the country will be enhanced.

Barack Obama, more than any other factor, has brought this situation about – not by anything he has deliberately done, and not because Republicans are wrong in insisting that his presidency has been awful. The Republicans’ reasons are ridiculous, but their conclusion is spot on.

Obama has brought the GOP to ruin and perhaps even to extinction just by being there.

For reflecting on the Republicans’ future, his presidency is therefore a good place to begin.


Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Oct 14, 2013 - 10:53am PT
Interesting article, rSin.

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Oct 14, 2013 - 11:01am PT

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Wade Icey

Trad climber
Oct 14, 2013 - 11:53am PT

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Oct 14, 2013 - 12:35pm PT
only a lib would believe health care (and the economy) will be better with fewer health care workers:



Trad climber
Oct 14, 2013 - 01:00pm PT
when conservatives are ALWAYS PREACHING how their policies are going to get more for less???

dont be absurd.

and concidering WHOM the ACA is largely drafted by you can see whos work is really being implimented

youd think they would be proud of how badly they managed to f*#k it up

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Oct 14, 2013 - 01:54pm PT
Thank you, Jim, for a very cogent analysis of your healthcare system. Unfortunately, it's not clear to me that voters here possess that same understanding of the involuntary use of their money via taxation. If they did in California, high speed rail would be dead, dead, dead.


Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Oct 14, 2013 - 02:00pm PT
Like your brain, brain, brain?

Oct 14, 2013 - 03:46pm PT

The Dixiecrat Solution
Published: October 13, 2013


So you have this neighbor who has been making your life hell. First he tied you up with a spurious lawsuit; you’re both suffering from huge legal bills. Then he threatened bodily harm to your family. Now, however, he says he’s willing to compromise: He’ll call off the lawsuit, which is to his advantage as well as yours. But in return you must give him your car. Oh, and he’ll stop threatening your family — but only for a week, after which the threats will resume.

Not much of an offer, is it? But here’s the kicker: Your neighbor’s relatives, who have been egging him on, are furious that he didn’t also demand that you kill your dog.

And now you understand the current state of budget negotiations.

Stocks surged last Friday in the belief that House Republicans were getting ready to back down on their ransom demands over the government shutdown and the debt ceiling. But what Republicans were actually offering, it seems, was the “compromise” Paul Ryan, the chairman of the House Budget Committee, laid out in a Wall Street Journal op-ed article: rolling back some of the “sequester” budget cuts — which both parties dislike; cuts in Medicare, but with no quid pro quo in the form of higher revenue; and only a temporary fix on the debt ceiling, so that we would soon find ourselves in crisis again.

I do not think that word “compromise” means what Mr. Ryan thinks it means. Above all, he failed to offer the one thing the White House won’t, can’t bend on: an end to extortion over the debt ceiling. Yet even this ludicrously unbalanced offer was too much for conservative activists, who lambasted Mr. Ryan for basically leaving health reform intact.

Does this mean that we’re going to hit the debt ceiling? Quite possibly; nobody really knows, but careful observers are giving no better than even odds that any kind of deal will be reached before the money runs out. Beyond that, however, our current state of dysfunction looks like a chronic condition, not a one-time event. Even if the debt ceiling is raised enough to avoid immediate default, even if the government shutdown is somehow brought to an end, it will only be a temporary reprieve. Conservative activists are simply not willing to give up on the idea of ruling through extortion, and the Obama administration has decided, wisely, that it will not give in to extortion.

So how does this end? How does America become governable again?

One answer might be that we somehow stumble through the next 13 months, and voters punish Republican tactics by returning the House to Democratic control. Recent polls do show a large Democratic advantage on the generic House ballot. But remember, Democratic House candidates already “won” in 2012, in the sense that they received more votes in total than Republicans. Yet the vagaries of district boundaries — partly, but not entirely, the result of gerrymandering — meant that the Republican majority in seats remained, and it would probably take a really huge Democratic sweep to dislodge G.O.P. control.

There is, however, another solution, and everyone knows what it is. Call it Dixiecrats in reverse.

Here’s the precedent: For a long time, starting as early as 1938, Democrats generally controlled Congress on paper, but actual control often rested with an alliance between Republicans and conservative Southerners who were Democrats in name only. You may not like what this alliance did — among other things, it killed universal health insurance, which we might otherwise have had 65 years ago. But at least America had a functioning government, untroubled by the kind of craziness that now afflicts us.

And right now we have all the necessary ingredients for a comparable alliance, with roles reversed. Despite denials from Republican leaders, everyone I talk to believes that it would be easy to pass both a continuing resolution, reopening the government, and an increase in the debt ceiling, averting default, if only such measures were brought to the House floor. How? The answer is, they would get support from just about all Democrats plus some Republicans, mainly relatively moderate non-Southerners. As I said, Dixiecrats in reverse.

The problem is that John Boehner, the speaker of the House, won’t allow such votes, because he’s afraid of the backlash from his party’s radicals. Which points to a broader conclusion: The biggest problem we as a nation face right now is not the extremism of Republican radicals, which is a given, but the cowardice of Republican non-extremists (it would be stretching to call them moderates).

The question for the next few days is whether plunging markets and urgent appeals from big business will stiffen the non-extremists’ spines. For as far as I can tell, the reverse-Dixiecrat solution is the only way out of this mess.

On high speed rail:
I voted against the high speed rail, something we ultimately must have to compete. Because we would get more bang for the buck and much sooner, if we just improve the present system by adding a couple of additional rails. Much of our north south system is single rail.

In the year 2013 that is insanity.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Oct 14, 2013 - 05:06pm PT
Werner sucking off the tit of the government, Norton who has a business and created jobs for the others.

The weird world of ST.

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Oct 14, 2013 - 05:08pm PT
And posting as a reincarnated chain smoking duck...

Oct 14, 2013 - 05:10pm PT
Credit: jghedge
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Oct 14, 2013 - 05:11pm PT
And then you have Ron...blaming Obama/democrats for all that has gone wrong in his sad life.

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Oct 14, 2013 - 05:42pm PT

The Granite State.
Oct 14, 2013 - 05:58pm PT
Good find, Wes. I had no idea, but I'm not surprised.

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Oct 14, 2013 - 08:27pm PT
because, you know, abortion is so awesome for women:


just ask the chinese
Riley Wyna

Trad climber
A crack near you
Oct 14, 2013 - 08:49pm PT
Wow Wes !!!!
Dr. F.

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 14, 2013 - 09:53pm PT
The Government is in meltdown, and Bookworm is still telling us that abortions should be made illegal
that's all they really care about now

Do they all live in a bubble??

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Oct 14, 2013 - 09:57pm PT
If abortions are banned , where will bookworm get one..?
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