Why are Republicans Wrong about Everything?


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Social climber
Oct 2, 2013 - 06:39pm PT
Only a complete f*#king moron would associate themselves with today's republican party

Trad climber
Oct 2, 2013 - 06:48pm PT
there are still a handful of responsible folks in the GOP. that's what this fight is really over. the strategic wingers hope to use this to force out the last remaining repubs on the national level who are competent and interested in governing as anythoing other than mullahs.

lots of gop anger over this sh#t. cruz's meeting with senate republicans today went so badly that a bunch of them went to the press to make it clear that they are not happy.



Social climber
So Cal
Oct 2, 2013 - 07:30pm PT
This has been very revealing!

Let's go over again what the final house offer was.

1. Everyone gets the same extension that Obama's and the Senate's establishment big business cronies get.

2. The political aristocracy has to play by the same rules as every one else.

Of course this isn't good enough for the anointed elites, so they won't talk to anyone.

The real fascists are taking you for a ride!


Social climber
So Cal
Oct 2, 2013 - 07:35pm PT
So you're fine with a special privileged class getting exempted from the law?

All the House is asking is that ALL Americans be held to the same standard.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
Oct 2, 2013 - 07:35pm PT
there are still a handful of responsible folks in the GOP.

Can you list them? Me neither although at one time John Huntsman sounded remarkably level headed, which of course is considered communist and he was among the first presidential contenders to get the boot from the T party Taliban.

Fact: If the loony Party had hired John Huntsman to run the show instead of Plastic No Mind and Ayn Ryand then Obummer would be back in Chicago organizing block parties.

Oct 2, 2013 - 07:42pm PT
"All the House is asking is that ALL Americans be held to the same standard."

Actually the House would pass a clean CR if Boehner would allow the vote to be held. 20 repub defections now.

So your narrative is wrong.

Ever notice that all Unhung ever has is false narratives that don't hold up to 2 seconds of scrutiny?

He's like the personification of repub policy.


Social climber
So Cal
Oct 2, 2013 - 07:50pm PT
So according to you,

"give us the money because we are the anointed and privileged and know what's good for you!"

Sorry, but the Constitution gives the purse strings to the peoples house.

Oct 2, 2013 - 07:57pm PT
Republican "negotiating" tactics:


Social climber
So Cal
Oct 2, 2013 - 08:01pm PT
So A dirtbag supports special privileges for big corp and the anointed class?

Oct 2, 2013 - 08:02pm PT
"Sorry, but the Constitution gives the purse strings to the peoples house."

Hahahaha, like I just said, there's at least 20 repub defections in the people's House right now. Hold the vote and the clean CR will pass the House.

Oh...but I guess the constitution only applies if it works to preserve your dying party.

Time to abandon the sinking ship, rat. You lost - again.

Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Vancouver Canada
Oct 2, 2013 - 08:04pm PT
Maybe it's unfair to criticize from another country. Canada had no choice in instituting universal health care. There were no findings of differences, just too much common ground.

Here's why:


Oct 2, 2013 - 08:13pm PT

So A dirtbag supports special privileges for big corp and the anointed class?

Hey lying as#@&%e,

I've said no such thing.

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
Oct 3, 2013 - 04:17am PT
How would you repug as#@&%es feel if the Dems forced a shutdown to push a gun control bill through? This is extortion plain and simple. Threatening our bond rateing is criminaly insane and these as#@&%es should go to jail.

And yes there is good reason to call them as#@&%es. killing our economy right before our eyes. ACA sucks INMOP but that is no excuse for this bullshit! if you want to change the law do it in the reguler session.

I have been desperatly trying to sell a house for 4/1/2 years. the sale is finally supposed to happen. closeing was supposed to be in the next two weeks yet the buyer has/had an FHA loan.. thank you so much as#@&%es for helping to ruin my life! lots of other folks getting their finances ruined over these as#@&%es acting like terrorists.

Oct 3, 2013 - 04:38am PT
^^^^^^^^^^^ That's a damned shame. I hope it works out.

Trad climber
Oct 3, 2013 - 05:24am PT
Remember when Republicans were so outraged that Obama's trip to India to strengthen ties and trade between two great nations might cost upwards of $200-300 million with all the security costs? Shutting the government down costs taxpayers $200 million a DAY. That doesn't even count the collateral economic fallout, that's just straight cash out of taxpayer pockets.

To provide some perspective, the medical device tax that Republicans want to repeal is estimated to pull in $8 million a day once implemented. Not a terribly effective strategy for debt reduction.


Sounds like its more like $300 million a day, not $200 million. Heh.

Trad climber
Oct 3, 2013 - 06:04am PT
Shriekingly partisan Republican Jennifer Rubin of WaPo likening House Republicans to a labor union that has overreached.


I’ve noted that the government shutdown bears a resemblance to collective bargaining and strike situations. This is especially true in one regard.

Sometimes, unions overreach. They raise their members’ expectations about what can be obtained. They can’t get what they want at the bargaining table, and they are boxed in, almost forced to take their members out on strike. After that, the chief negotiator turns to his group to ask, “So what can we give them to get them back?”

His bargaining team, grouchy and exhausted, revolts. “Nothing!” “What do you mean –give them something!?” “Why should we have to give them something?”

Yes, it is galling having to bail out the people on the other side because of their stupidity, and, yes, life’s not fair. But the obligation — owed to the company and to the employees — is to get the mess resolved. There are innocent victims beyond the immediate parties, such as employees at suppliers’ companies, pension and health beneficiaries and the general public.

So the company negotiator does it; he offers some small incentive, a face-saver to get the union back to the table and everyone back to work.

That is how it works in the labor context. I’ve seen it time and time again. The same is true here. To the Democrats, I say what any responsible negotiator would say: Yes, the Republicans were wrong to try to force defunding via one house of the legislative branch.

Yes, you shouldn’t have to give them something. Sure, they made this mess. But having the White House (like occupying the chief executive position) means you get over it.

Neither company negotiators nor the Democrats need to or should give the other side what they unreasonably asked for (e.g. defund Obamacare), but they could give them something (a suspension of the medical-device tax, a complete and timely audit of the glitches in the exchanges). In the shutdown debacle, the Republicans still will have lost their quest for Obamacare defunding, and they still will have to explain why they got so little. They will see that “not blinking” is an inane way to govern.

But, by giving them an inch, the Democrats also have will have refused to provide to the GOP an excuse that Democrats are equally intransigent. And Democrats will have done what it takes to pull the country back from the brink. In doing so, they might even convince some Republicans disgusted with the right-wing hotheads that Democrats aren’t all bad.

Unfortunately, she fails to acknowledge that any offer made by Democrats will be refused by the 40 suicide-pact Republicans out of hand and the only solution is to wait until House Republicans come around to something half-reasonable on their own or reject the suiciders. Also, any concession by Obama at this point legitimizes the "or I'll kill this puppy" tactics and only ensure more of this brinkmanship in the future.

I'm have a hunch that the meeting by party leaders at the White House yesterday was 2 hours of mapping out how to make that happen together.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Oct 3, 2013 - 07:15am PT
The shutdown is still going on? I hadn't noticed really.

Unh unh unh. Those zanny politicians.



Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Oct 3, 2013 - 07:19am PT

We may not see or feel the changes yet...

But before long, we will...

Most likely in the form of some prices going through the roof somewhere...


Oct 3, 2013 - 07:41am PT
As each day passes, I worry more that we are going to get f*#ked on the debt ceiling. The republican leadership is in shambles and the nihilistic kooks continue to call the shots.

Oct 3, 2013 - 11:28am PT

The Decline And Fall of the Republican Party


"The Tea Party was born because the Republican Party would not stand up for real Americans. The Republican Party was born because the Whig Party would not stand up for all Americans."

"If the Republican Party sells America out one more time, a new party will be born and the Republican Party will join the Whig Party in the Smithsonian Museum."

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