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Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Aug 12, 2014 - 11:01am PT
i can't speak for Ornette Coleman but I find the comparison highly offensive…

Credit: milk-eye for the bighead guy.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Aug 12, 2014 - 11:14am PT
The sad thing is that her followers actually understand her perfectly.

As long as she's ridiculing "liberals" - it doesn't need to be articulate or original or even coherent - they will nod their heads in approval.


Judging from TGT, bluering and others reactions all they hear is "mmmmm preeetty."
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Aug 12, 2014 - 11:27am PT
McCain and Palin...hard to figure out which one is the bigger idiot these days.
Norton

Social climber
quitcherbellyachin
Aug 12, 2014 - 03:29pm PT
Oct 12, 2013 - During an appearance on Fox News, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) said that the Republican Party is to blame for government shutdown.

but not according to our own JohnE

John says it was the Dems, and not the Repubs in the House, who caused the shutdown

John reasons that there is absolutely nothing odd or "wrong" to shut down the United States government while demanding that already passed into law legislation be either amended or repealed.

In John's world of unbiased clear logic, it is perfectly ok for the Repubs to blackmail the President, the stock market, Federal employees very incomes, the economy, the bond market, etc.....by stamping their feet and demanding that the Federal minimum wage be repealed, or the Civil Rights Act, or the Lilly Fair Pay for Woman Law, or any damn law


does anyone here other than JohnE see the proper function of his party this way?
dirtbag

climber
Aug 12, 2014 - 04:34pm PT
Norton, this summarizes republican conduct during the shutdown:






Credit: dirtbag
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Aug 13, 2014 - 05:17am PT



Can anyone explain how riot control police has gone from "armed cops with protective gear using nonlethal means to control crowds" to "militarized oppression squad from dystopian video game?" These are literally images from computer games I've played designed to portray an alternate universe America.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Aug 13, 2014 - 06:21am PT
High Desert...Maybe because some criminals own machine guns... and money is no object when it comes to law enforcement..
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Aug 13, 2014 - 06:23am PT
Of course the camo and army boots are totally necessary.

TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
Aug 13, 2014 - 07:35am PT
Can anyone explain how riot control police has gone from "armed cops with protective gear using nonlethal means to control crowds" to "militarized oppression squad from dystopian video game?"

Because NRA-backed politicians (and many on this site) insist that armed opposition to police in the performance of their lawful duties is an essential part of the US constitution.

TE





locker

climber
STFU n00b!!!
Aug 13, 2014 - 07:38am PT


"i can't speak for Ornette Coleman but I find the comparison highly offensive…"...

^^^

That comment along with the photo of Tom and Bette had me laughing pretty damned GUD just now...




Fuking never fails man...

LOL!!!...

Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Aug 13, 2014 - 08:19am PT
Because NRA-backed politicians (and many on this site) insist that armed opposition to police in the performance of their lawful duties is an essential part of the US constitution.

It takes two to tango.

...and I'm not sure about the "lawful duties" part.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Aug 13, 2014 - 08:21am PT
Sign of the times with police, fight fire with fire, who knows what arsenal some of these NRA types are carrying.
GLillegard

Trad climber
Portland
Aug 13, 2014 - 08:31am PT
Sign of the times with police, fight fire with fire, who knows what arsenal some of these Drug/Gang types are carrying.

Corrected to reflect reality.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Aug 13, 2014 - 09:05am PT
"Sign of the times with police, fight fire with fire, who knows what arsenal some of these Drug/Gang types are carrying."

Really..who was at Bundy's place, druglords??
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
Aug 13, 2014 - 09:55am PT
...and I'm not sure about the "lawful duties" part.

If containing riots, to prevent violence, arson or looting isn't the lawful duty of "peace officers", what is?

I'm not suggesting for a moment that the original shooting was lawful or otherwise, or that peaceful protests against perceived unlawful action by police should be suppressed, but when protest is achieved by the discharge of firearms, we move into a wholly different situation.

How can anyone possibly suggest that the riot police we ask to protect us from armed gangs are not permitted to appropriately protect themselves?

TE
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Aug 13, 2014 - 10:43am PT
RJ posted
High Desert...Maybe because some criminals own machine guns... and money is no object when it comes to law enforcement..

Nobody in that crowd is wielding a gun, much less an assault rifle. If that was an open carry protest we'd never hear the end of the jack booted thug police threatening to kill second amendment advocates on Obama's order but if some people get upset about an unarmed black kid that police killed entirely entirely by mistake it's time to bust out the military grade gear and put their fingers on the triggers?

TradEddie posted
How can anyone possibly suggest that the riot police we ask to protect us from armed gangs are not permitted to appropriately protect themselves?

So I either have to agree that police officers armed and acting like an occupying military force is "appropriate protection" or I'm killing police officers? The Seattle Police Commissioner was interviewed recently (he wrote a book I think) talking about how during the first WTO protest it was kept relatively civil because he deployed lightly armed cops in regular gear throughout the crowds with better equipped backup. During the second protest he was pressured into "appropriately protecting" the officers by pulling them out of the crowd, heavily armed with shields and masks. The protests became very violent. He believes it was because the way his officers were deployed prevented them from interacting civilly with the crowd and created the perception of hostility before it even started.
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Aug 13, 2014 - 10:47am PT
Can anyone explain how riot control police has gone from "armed cops with protective gear using nonlethal means to control crowds" to "militarized oppression squad from dystopian video game?" These are literally images from computer games I've played designed to portray an alternate universe America.

 This is an image of America today.

We are hearing stories all the time.. 2014 seems to have become "year to kill a n-----" for the south (when I say the south, I don't mean "these crimes that happen in the south", no, I mean slower minds, lesser mental capacity, they seem to me to be not much more than single minded organisms intent on having it all themselves...


I Have no other explanation (BTW - Honestly, I think of myself as no different than the idiots I berate or call names... In other words I'm just as stupid as anyone I point and laugh at on this site.. the only difference is I'm willing to admit it.)

Any repub who wants my respect will show me where in life in this world where the republican ideal world has ever been implemented or played out and in which all have prospered, like the republicans claim it will if we'd all just turn our backs and let it happen and don't ask questions, like a good victim....

That is all they are, nothing more


Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Aug 13, 2014 - 10:49am PT
How can anyone possibly suggest that the riot police we ask to protect us from armed gangs are not permitted to appropriately protect themselves?

I'm suggesting that they may place a higher priority on protecting themselves rather than the people they are paid to protect.

The need for military equipment by local law enforcement has a self-fulfilling tendency. It's a vicious circle. Give someone a hammer and everything starts to look like a nail. There are lot of small town cops with an abundance of hammers.

http://www.businessinsider.com/police-militarization-ferguson-2014-8

One of the most interesting responses came from a follower who says he served in the Army's 82nd Airborne Division: "We rolled lighter than that in an actual warzone."

Of course police have should be permitted to protect themselves. But they also have to be willing to accept some danger in the interest of public safety - it's the job they signed up to do. When they start using the firepower of an infantry platoon to serve a search warrant they've clearly gone too far.

http://www.courierpress.com/news/local-news/crime/city-seeks-favorable-ruling-in-swat-incident-lawsuit-police-video-shows-what-happened_21314982

These stories are now routine across America. Most of them involve only minor offenses, almost all of them drug related. It's a disturbing trend.
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Aug 13, 2014 - 11:08am PT
Dave do you remember the L.A riots of 92?

remember when those bloods and krypts got all killed by those camo colors..glad they were there to protect!
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Aug 13, 2014 - 11:09am PT
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