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TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
Aug 11, 2014 - 10:31am PT
HUH... when did that happen?
Not under Bush Or Bush or RAYGUN.

Those expansions were the military and trickle-down industries, not of regulating bodies. Any government body that might actually regulate industry to prevent them from adversely affecting peoples lives (EPA, ATF, SEC...) is a target of hypocritical republican stonewalling.

How are the Democrats different? They don't "balance" their expenditure with tax cuts.

TE
locker

climber
STFU n00b!!!
Aug 11, 2014 - 10:33am PT


"How are the Democrats different?"...


They TRY harder to not only help BIG MONEY...

but the general AMERICAN population as well...




EDITED:

Other than that, like ALL Politicians...

they SUCK!!!...
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Aug 11, 2014 - 12:56pm PT

"...Remember Clinton's surplus..?"...


You mean the money the Republicans blew???...

"Clinton's" surplus occurred exclusively during Republican Congresses. When the Democrats controlled Congress, they ran no surpluses. Last I checked, Congress, not the President, proposes and passes the budget. At least that's what the Constitution said.

I agree, though, that the Tom Delay Republican Congress, to which G.W. excessively deferred, wasted that surplus and more.

The real difference between Democrats and Republicans, though, relates to the Republicans' understanding that the economy is not a zero-sum system. The Democrats' policies view it as a zero-sum system, and in particular, view the economy as one where anything that benefits employers and/or producers and/or investors hurts the economy.

John
jammer

climber
Aug 11, 2014 - 01:13pm PT
No, dems just believe that surpluses should be shared, whereas the republicans feel otherwise, specifically that all surpluses should go to the top executives/share holders. It's a rather BIG difference...

I might also add that dems lean toward using simple language which anyone can understand when talking about the economy, whereas republicans tend to act like its all very complex and should be left up to the white men that have been running things forever...the difference is kind of transparent if you ask me...
jammer

climber
Aug 11, 2014 - 01:42pm PT
Finally found where all the repubs get their dating advice:

http://unicornery.tumblr.com/post/22302672353/prince-of-persuasias-3-step-process-from-bobs
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Aug 11, 2014 - 02:03pm PT
Last I checked, Congress, not the President, proposes and passes the budget. At least that's what the Constitution said.

And the last I checked the president has veto power over the budget. And I don't believe either party has had a veto proof congress in my lifetime.

And I do believe that the president begins the process by submitting an annual budget request.
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Aug 11, 2014 - 02:03pm PT
Last I checked, Congress, not the President, proposes and passes the budget. At least that's what the Constitution said.

It may have said that, but nobody listened.

The real difference between Democrats and Republicans, though, relates to the Republicans' understanding that the economy is not a zero-sum system. The Democrats' policies view it as a zero-sum system, and in particular, view the economy as one where anything that benefits employers and/or producers and/or investors hurts the economy.

I think this is a somewhat valid claim in general, but Republicans tend to change their tune dramatically depending upon the issue. E.g. Deficit military spending is stimulative, but we cannot afford infrastructure development and unemployment benefits.
jammer

climber
Aug 11, 2014 - 02:28pm PT
Johns point is simply that the republican congress under Clinton lacked the political capital to do anything about his budget. Remember, not all "moves" are possible at just any random time.

It's either that or he is trying to say that the republicans get along with the Clintons...
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Aug 11, 2014 - 02:32pm PT
"Last I checked, Congress, not the President, proposes and passes the budget. "

John, can you do us Libs a favor and remind the rest of the ranting Republicans here who bitch about how Obama hasn't made any real progress of this simple procedural reality?
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Aug 11, 2014 - 03:14pm PT
John, can you do us Libs a favor and remind the rest of the ranting Republicans here who bitch about how Obama hasn't made any real progress of this simple procedural reality?
I do often, elsewhere. Of course, the implications of this also mean that both parties -- not just one -- shut down the government last fall.

What the Reagan and Clinton presidencies showed me was the importance of a president able to work with his opponents. Both G. W. Bush and Obama could argue that some of their opponents were unreasable (or, as I would argue in the case of G. W. Bush, his real enemy was his own party in Congress), but I find that a cop-out.

I also find it a cop-out when the Republicans say that Obama or Reid is unreasonable. They may be, but a competent politician knows how to make things happen. After all, for most of my life, I kept hearing that "politics is the art of the possible." No one ever said it was the null set.

John
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
Aug 11, 2014 - 04:07pm PT
The real difference between Democrats and Republicans, though, relates to the Republicans' understanding that the economy is not a zero-sum system. The Democrats' policies view it as a zero-sum system, and in particular, view the economy as one where anything that benefits employers and/or producers and/or investors hurts the economy.

I half agree, but neither "side" sees it in absolute terms. Republicans policy errs on the side of over-supporting corporations at the cost of hurting individuals, while the Democrats err on the side of over-supporting individuals at the cost of hurting corporations.

TE
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Aug 11, 2014 - 06:33pm PT
John said
"Clinton's" surplus occurred exclusively during Republican Congresses. When the Democrats controlled Congress, they ran no surpluses.

That's technically true. You forgot to add that those surpluses took place after the Democratically controlled Congress raised taxes on the wealthy and massively cut defense spending. The dot com boom dumped piles of cash into the government coffers, aided by the higher taxes. These increased revenues were enough to balance the budget if Republicans had done literally nothing at all. But it's a lot better to pass a "balanced budget bill" and take credit for the inevitable.


John continued
Of course, the implications of this also mean that both parties -- not just one -- shut down the government last fall.

Again, technically true. Much in the same way that refusing to pay hostage ransom makes you guilty of murder.
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Aug 11, 2014 - 06:52pm PT
Norton

Social climber
quitcherbellyachin

Aug 10, 2014 - 07:37pm PT

Plenty of smart people vote Republican.

name some, of the plenty


 Nearly puked laughing....

Norton beat me to the punch... I wasn't even gonna say anything today....

...but,,,




 HDDJ 's plus a few lines..... new media watch out.... this is gonna take off like gang busters...


More analysis of the palin pain..



 Word Salad Chef Sarah Pajin
bergbryce

climber
East Bay, CA
Aug 12, 2014 - 09:15am PT
/\ Haha!! Sarah Palin's avant garde word salad = Ornette Colman's free jazz!!
locker

climber
STFU n00b!!!
Aug 12, 2014 - 09:20am PT

Quick THREAD DRIFT:


"Ornette Colman's free jazz!!"...


Saw him play live in '72' or '73'...

Fuking FANSTASTIC!!!...






bergbryce

climber
East Bay, CA
Aug 12, 2014 - 09:25am PT
In the Parkman Show, they are comparing Palin's ability to combine strings of unrelated words to the sounds of Mr. Coleman's saxophone which was considered to sound disjointed by the unaccustomed. Hilarious.
locker

climber
STFU n00b!!!
Aug 12, 2014 - 09:28am PT

^^^
LofukingL!!!...


Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Aug 12, 2014 - 09:30am PT
The sad thing is that her followers actually understand her perfectly.

As long as she's ridiculing "liberals" - it doesn't need to be articulate or original or even coherent - they will nod their heads in approval.


Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Aug 12, 2014 - 10:22am PT
they will nod their heads in approval

 ...like the drones they seem to me to be.....

Not too critical that the speaker knows much of anything about what they speak....
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Aug 12, 2014 - 10:29am PT
Of course, the implications of this also mean that both parties -- not just one -- shut down the government last fall.

So, if I pull my truck across your driveway, blocking you from being able to leave...you believe that BOTH you and I are at fault, and should be arrested for false imprisonment, and both my vehicle and YOUR vehicle should be towed?

Because you refused to pay the $10,000 I wanted you to pay me......you would not even NEGOTIATE, you scoundrel!

Oct 12, 2013 - During an appearance on Fox News, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) said that the Republican Party is to blame for government shutdown.
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