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TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Jul 26, 2013 - 08:23pm PT
Just when you think the descent into hypocrisy couldn't go any deeper,

It does!

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130726/01200123954/obama-promise-to-protect-whistleblowers-just-disappeared-changegov.shtml
jghedge

climber
Jul 26, 2013 - 08:25pm PT


In which case, should't all the civilian whistleblowers be either charged or in jail?
jghedge

climber
Jul 26, 2013 - 08:37pm PT


And that $93 estimate doesn't factor in the subsidies most 20-somethings are likely to receive

Can you imagine either of the 2 candidates (repub and tea party) running against Hillary trying to come up with a policy to counter that?


Rand Paul won't have a repub candidate to run against at this rate
WBraun

climber
Jul 26, 2013 - 10:19pm PT
All the fools in this thread who vote for which person is going to be
the mouthpiece of psychopathic corporate dictators, do not know it's not a democracy.

The stupid Obama drones in this thread included .....
dirtbag

climber
Jul 26, 2013 - 10:25pm PT
WTF makes you so smart?
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Jul 26, 2013 - 10:52pm PT
Werner, I love you to death, but seriously. You live in National Park making cash off a government paycheck paid for by people working for evil corporations and protected by the corporate Congress at the behest of the evil Presidents that you are so eager to demonize. All presidents and parties have their faults but to pretend you are above it all is more than a little self-serving. The only reason that you aren't a Saturday Night Live caricature is that the river you live down by happens to be the Merced.

jghedge

climber
Jul 26, 2013 - 10:55pm PT
Give Werner his 60's Berkeley-radical roots

We're all products of our environment
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jul 29, 2013 - 09:24am PT
Here Werner you want stupid.
Credit: philo

http://occupydemocrats.com/paul-ryan-16-other-hypocritial-republicans-caught-begging-for-obamacare-funds/

Paul Ryan & 16 Other Hypocritical Republicans Caught Begging For Obamacare Funds
posted by Omar Rivero June 7, 2013 Current Events, Economy, Most Popular, Politics

You won’t believe what The Nation magazine obtained through a Freedom of Information Act Inquiry: a list of 17 Republicans who secretly pursued Obamacare’s medicaid expansion dollars while hypocritically slamming the law in public, as well as all of their letters begging for the funds from the big, bad federal government.

Every single one of the Republican congresspeople listed below, including master hypocrite Paul Ryan, have voted over 30 times to repeal the law while privately begging for its funding from the federal government.

The Nation calls this behavior “shameless hypocrisy” as well as evidence “of the fact that the Affordable Care Act bestows tangible benefits that even congresses most extreme right wing ideologues are hard-pressed to deny to their constituents”.

While Tea Party Republicans literally believe “Obamacare” to be socialist Armageddon, some of their favorite representatives are making it clear that they are aware of the reality that the Affordable Care Act is a much-needed reform that will improve the life of millions of Americans, including their own constituents.

While the corporate dominated mainstream media is likely to ignore this story, it is up to us to make some noise about the incredible hypocrisy of these Republican Congress people that publicly denounced a wonderful reform and then turn around and beg for money for its implementation.

Please do your part by sharing this and other related articles on social media forums.

Read all of their hypocritical letters here.

Senators
Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson (R-TX)
Senator Saxby Chambliss (R-GA)
Senator Thad Cochran (R-MS)
Senator John Cornyn (R-TX)
Senator Mark Kirk (R-IL)
Senator Rob Portman (R-OH)

Senator Joe Lieberman (I-CT, recently joined conservative AEI)

Congress members:
Rep Mary Bono Mack (R-CA)
Rep Jerry Lewis (R-CA)
Rep. David Valadao (R-CA)
Rep John Barrow (R-GA)
Rep Johnny Isakson (R-GA)
Rep Gregg Harper (R-MS)
Rep Lee Terry (R-NE)
Rep Steve Pearce (R-NM)
Rep Bob Gibbs (R-OH)
Rep Kirsti Noem (R-SD)
Rep Michael McCaul (R-TX)
Rep Paul Ryan (R-WI) – his letter here
Bharata

Mountain climber
Pune
Jul 29, 2013 - 12:18pm PT
Is saying oops sufficient when people are dead?

Credit: Bharata

Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jul 29, 2013 - 12:23pm PT
Is that horse supossed to be Yoda?

Republicans are wrong because they want to de-fund programs that help people.

I will gladly pay a higher tax rate to help out the less fortunate. Is compassion a bad thing?

If so, I'm guilty of caring for others. Shame on me, right?
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Jul 29, 2013 - 12:50pm PT
I will gladly pay a higher tax rate to help out the less fortunate. Is compassion a bad thing?

If so, I'm guilty of caring for others. Shame on me, right?

[Emphasis added]

That statement assumes facts not in evidence. Do higher taxes help the less fortunate? The econometric literature is fairly uniform in finding any tax increase contractionary, ceteris paribus. See, e.g., Romer & Romer, "The Macroeconomic Effects of Tax Changes," 100 American Economic Review pp. 763-801. If you don't have access to the AER, my alma mater, U.C. Berkeley, has it available online. http://emlab.berkeley.edu/~dromer/papers/RomerandRomerAERJune2010.pdf

If anything, the Romers' findings are on the low side of the adverse effects of raising taxes. The worst economic recovery since the Great Depression testifies eloquently to the failure of the economic policies of the Democratic Party. Those policies have done well in creating wards of the state, but have not helped the less fortunate escape their condition.

If we really care about others, we'll evaluate whether our "compassionate" actions actually help others.

John
Dr. F.

Boulder climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 29, 2013 - 07:34pm PT
Credit: Dr. F.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jul 29, 2013 - 07:51pm PT
The worst economic recovery since the Great Depression testifies eloquently to the failure of the economic policies of the Democratic Party. Those policies have done well in creating wards of the state, but have not helped the less fortunate escape their condition.

If we really care about others, we'll evaluate whether our "compassionate" actions actually help others.

John

What a truly shockingly partisan and factually just plain ignorant statement to make

Short term memory loss?

Jesus Fuking Christ john, you are as dumb as TGT and Ron Anderson

Your Republicans had the Presidency, House, AND Senate from 2000 through all of 2006.

The US economy was severely contracting throughout 2007 and had officially entered the Great Recession by November of that year.

Make absolutely NO mistake about it, your Republicans presided over and are 100% responsible for this enduring recession.

It is preposterous of you to even foggily suggest that Democratic "policies" had ANYTHING to do with the recession, yet you that is exactly what you say above.

And THEN, after getting the recession flat wrong, you go to say that it is the Democrats "fault" that the tens of millions who lost their job under YOUR party's stewardship created an expanding "ward" of the State situation that persists to this day.

You have become both increasingly ignorant and now blithly arrogant in the certainty of your factual incompetence.

But then, that is exactly why you continue to vote for the morons who gave us this recession.

You ought to be ashamed of yourself.
abrams

Sport climber
Jul 29, 2013 - 07:52pm PT
What the message there? Peek a boo Dr Fetus sees you?
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jul 29, 2013 - 07:57pm PT
WTF makes you so smart?

where'd you get the idea he's smart?


What a truly shockingly partisan and factually just plain ignorant statement to make

Short term memory loss?

Jesus Fuking Christ john, you are as dumb as TGT and Ron Anderson

Your Republicans had the Presidency, House, AND Senate from 2000 through all of 2006.

The US economy was severely contracting throughout 2007 and had officially entered the Great Recession by November of that year.

Make absolutely NO mistake about it, your Republicans presided over and are 100% responsible for this enduring recession.

It is preposterous of you to even foggily suggest that Democratic "policies" had ANYTHING to do with the recession, yet you that is exactly what you say above.

And THEN, after getting the recession flat wrong, you go to say that it is the Democrats "fault" that the tens of millions who lost their job under YOUR party's stewardship created an expanding "ward" of the State situation that persists to this day.

You have become both increasingly ignorant and now blithly arrogant in the certainty of your factual incompetence.

But then, that is exactly why you continue to vote for the morons who gave us this recession.

You ought to be ashamed of yourself.


agree with the above. JE how can you possibly justify your statement?
Dr. F.

Boulder climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 29, 2013 - 08:07pm PT
John E is such a partisan hack these days, it's just pure Fox News flack in a different color
a true Republican Apologist to the bone, one way or another, JE and most other right wingers here will always be able to blame Dems for what the Repubs have done, destroy the economy and the middle class that supports it

What is despicable now is the disdain they have for the poor and jobless that they created.
Dr. F.

Boulder climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 29, 2013 - 08:17pm PT
Those policies have done well in creating wards of the state, but have not helped the less fortunate escape their condition.
JE
What policies did this?

Should we just let the poor and jobless starve?
since we wouldn't want the state creating jobs?, right
Because then they would be state jobs, and it just makes us wards of the state...

It's a cyclical illogical corundum of biblical proportions!!!
WWJD??
I know, let em die, they deserve it, they should have been born rich, or more white, or in a country that cares about their citizens
It's all about paying the least in taxes, like all the other third world countries.



Insane Levels of Inequality – Which Hurt the Economy – Are Skyrocketing

by WashingtonsBlog
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/02/economic-leaders-pay-lip-service-to-decreasing-inequality-while-pushing-policies-which-increase-it.html
Curt

climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
Jul 29, 2013 - 09:22pm PT
The worst economic recovery since the Great Depression testifies eloquently to the failure of the economic policies of the Democratic Party. Those policies have done well in creating wards of the state, but have not helped the less fortunate escape their condition.

I know you're not stupid, so the only option left is that you are a mere shill for Republican economic policies, no matter how flawed they are. The worst recovery since the great depression? Sure, because this was the worst recession since the great depression and because Republicans have fought tooth and nail to deny Obama any sort of political victory--even if that means blocking legislation that would benefit the economy and the lives of average Americans. Give us a break.

Curt
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Jul 30, 2013 - 06:34am PT
The worst economic recovery since the Great Depression testifies eloquently to the failure of the economic policies of the Democratic Party. Those policies have done well in creating wards of the state, but have not helped the less fortunate escape their condition.

Which economic policies? Things were turning around nicely until Republicans started blocking everything and laying off government employees left and right in local, state and federal sectors while prohibiting investments in infrastructure and housing that could have turned the private sector around a lot faster. The Republican policy of "f*#k you got mine" has been in place since 2009 and everyone except the rich have been stagnating ever since. If the democrats had been allowed to pursue their policies we'd likely have growth up and unemployment down.

This myth that democrats have been able to implement anything is insane. Meanwhile the "we're going to make our entire legislative session about jobs, jobs, jobs" Republicans have basically done nothing but "Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi" and "Obamacare, Obamacare, Obamacare."
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Jul 30, 2013 - 10:37am PT
The worst recovery since the great depression? Sure, because this was the worst recession since the great depression

For that statement to be logical, the size and speed of recovery should be inversely correlated to the depth of the recession. The greater the recession, the slower the recovery.

In fact, the opposite holds true for postwar recessions other than this one. The greater the depth of the recession, by and large, the stronger the recovery. Not this time.

It is preposterous of you to even foggily suggest that Democratic "policies" had ANYTHING to do with the recession, yet you that is exactly what you say above.

That statement misstates both what I said, and economic fact. I said, essentially, that the Democrats' economic policies gave us the worst recovery. The only logical implication is that the Democrats' policies affect the recovery, not the recession.

And to suggest that the Democrats had nothing to do with the housing bubble, in the presence of their insistent support of expansive housing policy -- ironically particularly by Mssrs. Dood and Frank -- strikes me as willful blindness. The recession came from the need for correction in the housing market.

How can I justify my statements? Rather easily:

1. The first thing the Democrats -- who had complete control of Congress from 2006-2010 -- did was try to re-inflate the housing market. Rather than recognize a necessary correction, and try to ameliorate the consequences -- they instead tried to recreate the bubble.

2. When Option No. 1 didn't work, they tried to do the same thing with enormous "stimulus" expenditures. This gave us, among other things, concrete curbs on the road from Wawona to Yosemite Valley. Basically, the Democrats followed the script for trying to end the Great Depression, blithely ignoring the fact that the Great Depression was an entirely different matter. Both Democrats and Republicans urged the Fed to keep interest rates artificially low with "quantitative easing," thus depriving savers -- largely people of the "Greatest Generation," from interest income.

3. None of this produced the results predicted by liberal economists, but instead produced the results predicted by conservative ones. When that happened, the liberal shrill voices like Paul Krugman's demanded(and still demand) to quadruple down on what didn't work before. Yes, Republicans have rightly resisted that effort, but that was after four years of Democratic economic quackery.

4. When the Democrats had control of both Congress and the White House, they enacted what we must assume were their two highest priorities; Dodd-Frank, and the ACA. Dodd-Frank has done nothing to help the recovery, would have done nothing to prevent the housing bubble, and costs the economy untold amounts, with the biggest bill still to come. The ACA has already raised health insurance costs for private insurance dramatically. About the only place where it lowered costs was in Massachusetts, which was simply farther along the Obamacare curve. The ACA moved Massachusetts back a bit, so they will pay a little less.

5. The regulatory costs imposed on the economy by this administration have been extraordinary, but the Democrats' apologists pretend they don't exist. Only the fracking boom -- done virtually entirely on non-government land and with active opposition by the anti-corporatist,and the let-them-eat-cake Democrats -- has shown much vitality in this economy.

6. Yes, governmental employment has fallen, but not as fast as non-governmental employment rose. That would not have happened but for Republican opposition to the Democrats' constant plans to expand the public sector and, consequently, wards of the state.

Thomas Nast's cartoons from 150 years ago still speak truth today. The Democrats still haven't figured out that when you cut open the goose that lays the golden eggs, all you get is goose guts.

John
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