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STFU n00b!!!
Aug 5, 2014 - 01:43pm PT

"OK fine Ron is the same ole sonofabitch he's always been, and so are you and I."...

Now we're getting somewhere...


Wade Icey

Trad climber
Aug 5, 2014 - 01:59pm PT
with apologies to Cmac and Bdylan

"Desolation Row"

They're selling postcards of the hanging
They're painting the passports brown
The beauty parlor is filled with sailors
The circus is in town
Here comes the blind commissioner
They've got him in a trance
One hand is tied to the tight-rope walker
The other is in his pants
And the riot squad they're restless
They need somewhere to go
As Lady and I look out tonight
From Desolation Row.

Cinderella, she seems so easy
"It takes one to know one," she smiles
And puts her hands in her back pockets
Bette Davis style
And in comes Romeo, he's moaning
"You belong to Me I Believe"
And someone says, "You're in the wrong place, my friend
You better leave"
And the only sound that's left
After the ambulances go
Is Cinderella sweeping up
On Desolation Row.

Now the moon is almost hidden
The stars are beginning to hide
The fortunetelling lady
Has even taken all her things inside
All except for Cain and Abel
And the hunchback of Notre Dame
Everybody is making love
Or else expecting rain
And the Good Samaritan, he's dressing
He's getting ready for the show
He's going to the carnival tonight
On Desolation Row.
Now Ophelia, she's 'neath the window
For her I feel so afraid
On her twenty-second birthday
She already is an old maid
To her, death is quite romantic
She wears an iron vest
Her profession's her religion
Her sin is her lifelessness
And though her eyes are fixed upon
Noah's great rainbow
She spends her time peeking
Into Desolation Row.

Einstein, disguised as Robin Hood
With his memories in a trunk
Passed this way an hour ago
With his friend, a jealous monk
He looked so immaculately frightful
As he bummed a cigarette
Then he went off sniffing drainpipes
And reciting the alphabet
You would not think to look at him
But he was famous long ago
For playing the electric violin
On Desolation Row.

Dr. Filth, he keeps his world
Inside of a leather cup
But all his sexless patients
They're trying to blow it up
Now his nurse, some local loser
She's in charge of the cyanide hole
And she also keeps the cards that read
"Have Mercy on His Soul"
They all play on penny whistles
You can hear them blow
If you lean your head out far enough
From Desolation Row.
Across the street they've nailed the curtains
They're getting ready for the feast
The Phantom of the Opera
In a perfect image of a priest
They're spoonfeeding Casanova
To get him to feel more assured
Then they'll kill him with self-confidence
After poisoning him with words
And the Phantom's shouting to skinny girls
"Get outa here if you don't know"
Casanova is just being punished for going
To Desolation Row.

At midnight all the agents
And the superhuman crew
Come out and round up everyone
That knows more than they do
Then they bring them to the factory
Where the heart-attack machine
Is strapped across their shoulders
And then the kerosene
Is brought down from the castles
By insurance men who go
Check to see that nobody is escaping
To Desolation Row.

They be to Nero's Neptune
The Titanic sails at dawn
Everybody's shouting
"Which side are you on ?"
And Ezra Pound and T. S. Eliot
Fighting in the captain's tower
While calypso singers laugh at them
And fishermen hold flowers
Between the windows of the sea
Where lovely mermaids flow
And nobody has to think too much
About Desolation Row.
Yes, I received your letter yesterday
About the time the door knob broke
When you asked me how I was doing
Was that some kind of joke ?
All these people that you mention
Yes, I know them, they're quite lame
I had to rearrange their faces
And give them all another name
Right now I can't read too good
Dont send me no more letters no
Not unless you mail them
From Desolation Row.

Social climber
Aug 5, 2014 - 02:48pm PT
yeah, do it Sketch

make fools of them "libs" by proving you know what you are talking about

prove the depth of your political knowledge by posting like you know it

like telling everyone here why you wanted two "libertarians" to be US President

go over a libertarians stance on the issues, Sketch

you know, how they don't believe in the Civil Right Bill, or Foreign Aid, or SS or Medicare

show us you examined those issues, agreed with them!

don't let us believe you don't know your ass from second base about the "issues"

prove otherwise, Sketch, engage in knowledgable and civil conversation

Trad climber
Aug 5, 2014 - 03:53pm PT
A third party headed by Sarah Palin...can't wait!

Steve Baldwin, a conservative activist and former California State assemblyman, on Tuesday penned a detailed proposal for a third, ultra-conservative party.

He said the establishment GOP just isn't cutting it.

"We donít want the GOP to pursue a 'socialism-lite' agenda. We want them to go on the warpath and do whatever it takes to stop the destruction of our constitutional Republic," Baldwin wrote in Barbwire, a conservative Christian site run by Liberty Counsel Action's VP Matt Barber. "It has become increasingly clear that the GOP leadership will do everything in its power to prevent the party from being influenced in any way by the Tea Party. I have given up on the GOP and am simply not sure it can ever be reformed."

He said that the new Third Party "will do to the GOP what the GOP did to the Whig Party 150 years ago: it will replace the GOP as the main party contesting the Democrat Party."

Baldwin acknowledges that successfully pulling a third party from the GOP is a long shot, but he offers some remedies. One thing the party would need, he argues, is Sarah Palin, who has actually considered a third party herself.

Trad climber
Aug 5, 2014 - 04:32pm PT

Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy

Aug 5, 2014 - 01:35pm PT
I really don't have any bile or bitters for anyone, unless they go after me with some weird stalker-ish bullsh#t.

Your post history tells a different story. Since June 1, that you've taken a shot me about 40 times, even though I said nothing to or about you.

Classic example of "it's only bad when the other guy does it".

Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Aug 5, 2014 - 04:49pm PT
40 times?

You are actually counting?

I have no idea how many times you've sniped at me. Know why?

I don't keep track of such silly things.

And in any case...I don't have any bile or bitterness towards you, Sketch. I just don't find your 'contributions' in these polititard threads to be particularly insightful or useful. (Yes, yes, I know....you feel the same. Whatevs.)

Somewhere out there
Aug 5, 2014 - 05:07pm PT
Classic example of

 uncontrollable trolling.... Notice we are talking about mostly feelings instead of points and counterpoints...

pubs suck...

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Aug 5, 2014 - 06:18pm PT
I dunno, boys. It's hard to think of two people more politically opposed than sketch and me, but we've had lengthy exchanges here that didn't get personal or insulting. Same with Ron.

Now mind you, they're both absolutely wrong about everything!

Like Republicans. Another thing they were wrong about: Surgeon General Steinfeld:

In 1964, Dr. Luther Terry issued the first Surgeon General's Report on Smoking and Health, irrefutably linking smoking with lung disease and other illnesses. The report led to a sharp drop in smoking and to the first warning labels on cigarette packages.

Seven years later, Dr. Jesse L. Steinfeld issued a second report focused on the dangers of secondhand smoke. He proposed what he called the Non-Smoker's Bill of Rights, which said that the country must free non-smokers from the hazards and annoyance of other people's addictions. He strengthened the warning on packages and issued the first ban on smoking in certain government buildings...

Terry's report and other activities during the 1960s led Republicans ó and some Democrats ó to argue that surgeons general were intruding inappropriately into private life. They viewed Richard Nixon's election to the White House in 1968 as an opportunity to defang the position...

When Steinfeld took office in December 1969, he noticed at least 13 ashtrays scattered around the suite. He immediately had them all removed and posted signs saying "Thank you for not smoking." He also refused to meet with tobacco industry lobbyists.

Although much of the office's bureaucratic power had been stripped, Steinfeld used it as a bully pulpit to promote what he considered good health policies. The new surgeon general's report, released in 1972, was already in preparation, but he adopted it and made it his own. That report's central point was that there is "no disagreement" that cigarette smoking is lethal. The report was the first to discuss the health issues of secondhand smoke.

Steinfeld called for a ban on smoking in virtually all public places, including restaurants, theaters, planes and trains. It took another 25 years for that to begin to be accomplished, however...

He also argued that violence on television had a disturbing effect on the social development of children, and called for networks to impose some type of self-censorship or to, at least, label programs that contain violence to alert parents.

His superiors ordered him not to testify before Congress on the issue, but he was subpoenaed and decided to testify without clearing his testimony first. That further frayed his relationship with the administration.

Nixon and HEW came under tremendous pressure from the tobacco industry to get rid of Steinfeld. When Nixon was reelected in 1972, he asked all members of his administration to submit letters of resignation. After he had been forced to rewrite it twice to weaken it, Steinfeld's letter was accepted. The office of the surgeon general then remained vacant until Jimmy Carter appointed Dr. Julius Richmond in 1977...


Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Aug 6, 2014 - 03:17am PT
oh, the irony...



Trad climber
Aug 6, 2014 - 06:19am PT
The CIA's integrated cloud system designed to bring all 17 intelligence agencies' data together is now online, defeating the entire purpose of having different intelligence agencies to begin with.


The Central Intelligence Agency is now officially an Amazon Web Services cloud consumer.

Less than 10 months after a U.S. Court of Federal Claims judge ended a public battle between AWS and IBM for the CIAís commercial cloud contract valued at up to $600 million, the AWS-built cloud for the intelligence community went online last week for the first time, according to a source familiar with the deal.

The cloud ó best thought of as a public cloud computing environment built on private premises ó is yet far from its peak operational capabilities when it will provide all 17 intelligence agencies unprecedented access to an untold number of computers for various on-demand computing, analytic, storage, collaboration and other services.

Here's an interesting Nation article on the growing and increasingly corporatized security state. He in part argues that the SCOTUS and the national security state are the only branches of government (yes, he calls it a branch) currently able to enact significant policy.


Here is Harry Truman arguing why split roles are important and why the CIA should be intelligence focused...from 1945.


You'll note the perceived complaints about the USA haven't changed much in 70 years.

And for some interesting contrast, here is a Slate article from 2002 arguing why the CIA and the FBI shouldn't cooperate that much. You'll note that it describes the CIA's role as "making accurate predictions" about the world. Oh my my how things have changed.


Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Aug 6, 2014 - 06:29am PT
The CIA is a terrorist organization. Torturing motherf*#kers, a pox on them all.


Trad climber
Aug 6, 2014 - 06:41am PT
When will the largely white-run, white-funded Democratic party stop their war on white people?


Rep. Mo Brooks (R-AL) on Monday accused Democrats of making the Republican party's push for stronger border security about race, the Huffington Post reported.

"This is a part of the war on whites thatís being launched by the Democratic Party. And the way in which theyíre launching this war is by claiming that whites hate everybody else," Brooks told conservative radio host Laura Ingraham. "It's part of the strategy that Barack Obama implemented in 2008, continued in 2012, where he divides us all on race, on sex, greed, envy, class warfare, all those kinds of things. Well thatís not true."

Brooks made the accusation in response to National Journal columnist Ron Fournier's comment on "Fox News Sunday" that the Republican Party is becoming "the party of white people."

Oh, I see. Because the illegitimate black President is coming to get us.


Heh. He doubled down.


Brooks said the tactic to repeatedly invoke race goes beyond the national debate on immigration issues.

"Absolutely," Brooks said. "The Democrats do it on a regular basis and you can see it in the campaign appeals that they make based on skin color. I don't know of a single Republican who has made an appeal for votes based on skin color. I don't know of one. The Democrats routinely make appeals based on race and they get away with it. It's repugnant to ever make an appeal based on race.

"That's exactly what they're doing by making the racial appeals they are making on a regular basis. I would say the same thing about a Republican if he did the opposite and no candidate of any race should ever say vote for me because of the race of that candidate."

Why do these liberals keep talking about race?!?!
*brings up race at every opportunity*

Trad climber
Aug 6, 2014 - 06:43am PT
Hide your children.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Aug 6, 2014 - 07:06am PT
"It's part of the strategy that Barack Obama implemented in 2008, continued in 2012, where he divides us all on race, on sex, greed, envy, class warfare, all those kinds of things. Well thatís not true."

President Obama did all that?

What a f*#king fool.


Trad climber
Aug 6, 2014 - 07:27am PT
Apparently unaware that people had already said this and then been mocked for it, a Republican Congressman decided to go ahead and suggest that immigrant children from Central America might be carrying ebola.


INDIANAPOLIS | U.S. Rep. Todd Rokita, R-Ind., suggested Monday that immigrant children from Central America could be carrying the Ebola virus that has killed some 800 people this year in West Africa.

The Munster native, whose district includes Newton and Jasper counties, made the unsubstantiated claim during an interview on Indianapolis' WIBC-FM "Garrison" radio program.

Referencing a conversation he had with U.S. Rep. Larry Bucshon, R-Newburgh, who is a heart surgeon, Rokita said they agreed there is a public health risk associated with the federal refugee agency placing immigrant children in the homes of U.S. relatives or sponsors.

"He said, look, we need to know just from a public-health standpoint, with Ebola circulating and everything else -- no, that's my addition to it, not necessarily his -- but he said we need to know the condition of these kids," Rokita said.

At least he made it clear he didn't get the idea from the heart surgeon.

Trad climber
Aug 6, 2014 - 07:32am PT

Democrats, eager to throw elections at every opportunity, are running a gubernatorial candidate in Ohio who, at age 44, is on his 3rd learner's permit and hasn't had a real driver's license for 10 years.

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Not only was Cuyahoga County Executive Ed FitzGerald driving with a learner's permit when police found him with a woman in a Westlake parking lot, he had gone 10 years without a valid permanent state driver's license.

He had the temporary permit for a few of those years, but records suggest from 2002 to 2008 he had no license to drive in Ohio at all.

FitzGerald, now a Democratic gubernatorial candidate, applied for temporary learner's permits in 2008, 2010 and 2011, according to records obtained from the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles. The one-year, temporary permit allowed FitzGerald to drive legally with a few restrictions.

The March 2008 permit application signed by FitzGerald indicated he previously held an operator's license and that his Ohio ID or license expired on his birthday in 2002.

During that time, when he would not have been legally allowed to drive, he served as assistant prosecutor, city councilman and mayor of Lakewood.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Aug 6, 2014 - 07:40am PT
Oh my!

Oh my goodness!

Good gravy!!!


Trad climber
Aug 6, 2014 - 07:44am PT
Boy howdy!

Somewhere out there
Aug 6, 2014 - 07:58am PT
Hey republicans.... do want the rest of the country to be just like Texas? This guy thinks Texas is a shining bastion on the hill...

It is because of the single minded arrogance of this tw#t that makes me sick... This man needs to be humiliated with the reality of Texas.

Do I have to direct anyone to the page on the internet that details all of the problems Texas is having?

republicans are shameful.

What is it going to be like when the shining city on the hill is engulfed in a toxic cloud of air and toxic groundwater and everything burning...

Ah, yes... the republican dream sequence of all their dreams...

Trad climber
Aug 6, 2014 - 08:02am PT
It's not simple minded at all. Texas religious conservatives have been employing this tactic for at least a decade. Of course, by "the best standards" he means "most like the early 1920's."
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