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Dr. F.

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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 2, 2013 - 07:04pm PT
Credit: Dr. F.

Trad climber
Jul 2, 2013 - 07:07pm PT
but you forget,
they have a long history of denying christ
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 2, 2013 - 07:29pm PT
Alan Grayson: ‘Callous, bigoted’ Republicans put laws up for sale to the highest bidder

By Eric W. Dolan
Monday, July 1, 2013 18:10 EDT

In a fundraising video uploaded to YouTube on Monday, Representative Alan Grayson (D-FL) attacked Republicans as “callous bigoted tools” who served only themselves and the rich.

“They have no interest whatsoever in anything but personal advancement, and the means by which they advance are to sell-out, to carve the law up into little pieces and put it up for sale to the highest bidder,” he said. “That’s the reality of the situation.”

However, Grayson acknowledged there existed a “small number” of principled Republicans with whom he could find common ground. One such Republican was former Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, who he worked together with on legislation to audit the Federal Reserve.

Grayson made it clear that working with Republican was not a primary concern of his. He said the people of his congressional district deserved a “gladiator” who would fight for justice, equality and peace — either with Republicans or without them.

“I feel disgust towards many of these people,” Grayson said of his fellow lawmakers. “Frankly, not only the Republicans. There are so many people who show no responsibility at all to the 700,000 people who elected them, sent them to Congress and are looking for them to do something useful for them in their lives.”

The Democrat’s fierce anti-Republican rhetoric is nothing new. Grayson outraged conservatives in 2009 when he described the Republican’s health care plan as, “die quickly.” He was defeated by Rep. Daniel Webster (R) the following year, only to regain a seat in the House in 2012.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jul 2, 2013 - 07:33pm PT
just watching the house of cards tumble doc. Must be agonizing for you. Im sorry about that, and no i dont think romney would have done any better.
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 2, 2013 - 07:41pm PT
The Republican house of Cards is falling
The conservative movement has been a failure every time it's tried to take over.
and after all the lies, Obama is better than ever in the real polls

It must be tough being wrong about everything rong, but you've done it your entire life, so maybe a change is in order

just go George Constansa, and think and do the opposite of what you would usually do, and then for the first time, You won't be Wrong!!

Trad climber
Jul 2, 2013 - 07:48pm PT
notice he thinks all the areas romney would have do far worse dont add up to showing in his math?
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 2, 2013 - 08:20pm PT
Well it's official, the Republicans Can Not Govern, and are here only to gum up the works.

GOP Poised To Make 113th Congress The Least Productive In History, Americans Aren’t Happy

Author: Stephen D. Foster Jr. July 1, 2013 4:06 pm

House Republicans are working hard in an effort to make the 113rd Congress even worse than the 112nd. If the last Congress wasn’t enough of a disastrous lesson in how constant obstruction hurts the nation, get ready for even more.

“Welcome to divided government. A big part of our job has been to stop bad things from happening.” So said Michael Steel, a spokesman for House Speaker John Boehner who also repeated Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell’s assertion that the GOP’s only goal is to stop anything President Obama and the Democrats try to do.

Those “bad things” that Democrats and President Obama have tried to accomplish include the rebuilding of America’s crumbling infrastructure, providing accessible and affordable health care for every American, getting America onto a clean energy grid and off of foreign oil, creating jobs, passing meaningful immigration reform, protecting women’s health, strengthening voting rights and civil rights for all, passing common sense gun control regulations designed to prevent mass shootings, regulations to keep our air and water clean, regulations to prevent future economic crashes, and the list goes on and on.

What’s unbelievable is that all of these things were at one time supported by the Republican Party itself. But rather than work with Democrats to find compromise on all of these important issues, Republicans have run to the extreme right because they refuse to work with the first African-American President, revealing the deep racism that is entrenched in the GOP. To that end, the GOP has obstructed bill after bill in the Senate, filibustering over 360 times since 2007. And you can forget about moving anything through the Republican controlled House.

According to NBC News,

When it comes to productivity, only 15 legislative items have become law under the current Congress. That’s fewer than the 23 items that became law at this same point in the 112th Congress, which passed a historically low number of bills that were signed into law.
To many observers, these are signs of broken government, gerrymandered congressional districts and out-of-control partisanship on Capitol Hill.

This lack of production has created a lack of confidence among the American public. According to a new Gallup Poll, only 10% of Americans have confidence in the current Congress, a new low. Incredibly, Congress ranks lower than the banking institutions that nearly collapsed the economy and lower than the labor unions that conservatives seek to destroy. But even though Republicans are sabotaging the country in an effort to block President Obama’s Democratic agenda, the American people have far more confidence in him than they have in Congress. 36% of Americans are confident in the Presidency which should be a sign to Republicans that Americans support the policies that the GOP have been obstructing.

But it would seem Republicans don’t care what Americans think. Despite 90% of Americans supporting gun control legislation, Republicans flatly rejected the will of the people and blocked it from going forward. More recently, House Republicans killed their own farm bill because it didn’t cripple the food stamp program enough to suit their tastes. House Republicans have moved so far to the right that they can’t even bring themselves to vote for bills they need to survive as a party. Immigration reform miraculously passed the Senate with bipartisan support, yet House Republicans are poised to sabotage that too because they see anything good that passes as a political and policy victory for President Obama. Even though not passing it will destroy any credibility Republicans have left with Latino voters, the House GOP cares more about blocking anything that will make the first African-American President look good.

This is the fourth straight year that Congress has ranked so low confidence. Three of those last four have been marked by Republican control of the House combined with Republicans obstructing the Senate. Only the American people have the power to change this. The 2014 midterm election is just over a year away and if Americans want Congress to improve, the only answer is to kick Republicans to the curb and give Democrats a filibuster proof Senate and majority control of the House. Staying at home and not voting is precisely how we got the current Congress in the first place. That is why it is the responsibility of every citizen to make their vote count and send a message to Republicans that if they want to be elected in the future, they need to drastically change their policies. If we want a Congress that listens to Americans, we need to vote for people who actually care more about the people than they do about their extreme base.

Read more: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/07/01/fosters-congress-piece/#ixzz2XwtjMFPp

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Jul 3, 2013 - 04:41am PT
2014 dem strategy on barrycare: "own it"

2015 dem strategy on barrycare: "delay it"


that this is clearly a way to protect dems in the midterm elections is a given; however...

here are ten questions about barry's sudden recognition that his own signature piece of legislation SUCKS (via mkh):

1. Do we think President Obama knew about the delay in the employer mandate or did he have to wait to find out about it when Air Force One landed back in America and he could get a newspaper in front of him?

2. Isn’t Obama just leaving the little guy out to dry by waiving a mandate for employers, who have an organized lobby, but leaving it in place for individuals?

3. Since we’re “already seeing benefits of Obamacare,” and the rest is so dangerous to the economy we’re delaying it, why do we need the rest?

4. Isn’t it the White House that’s interfering with implementation, now?

5. By Obama’s definition, did the White House just do an end-around Congress to limit women’s access to birth control? Without employer mandate penalties being enforced, will the administration also be declining to enforce penalties on employers who don’t provide free birth control? Or, is that lobby not powerful enough to get a waiver?

6. Doesn’t this just give us another year or two of uncertainty and slow hiring?

7. Is there any plausible way this is not a pretty devastating admission of Obamcare’s failures?

8. Would anyone sue to stop the administration from delaying this part of the law? HCAN? Some other liberal activist group? Maybe OFA could finally make itself useful in making the president’s priorities a reality.

9. What are the implications of the delay on the private health insurance market? Avik Roy offers some answers on this.

10. Are we all repealers now?

update: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-unitedhealth-insure-calif-20130702,0,4370321.story

Trad climber
Jul 3, 2013 - 06:56am PT
a stragegic move to help prevent the evil minority from retaining its ill gotten position in the house...

he probably hired rove to come up with the idea,
whats not to like?

Jul 3, 2013 - 07:34am PT

Given the inevitable fact that the repub party will cease to be congressionally relevant in a few more election cycles, a little delay on the most important liberal initiatives makes sense. First we wipe them out, then institute the cost controls that without which, no reform has much real effectiveness.

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jul 3, 2013 - 08:24am PT
Just so we’re all on the same page here. Obama knocked $555 BILLION off of the deficit. That’s an entire third of the total deficit. That’s more than every president in the history of the country put together.

How To Prove Obama LOWERED The Deficit In Four Easy And Indisputable Steps
Author: Justin "Filthy Liberal Scum" Rosario March 6, 2013 12:34 pm

The GOP, Fox News and AM Hate Radio regularly complain that Obama has raised the deficit. This is a lie. A very VERY big lie. It’s such a big lie and so easy to prove as a big lie that the fact 90% of the country thinks it’s true is one the greatest failures of the “liberal” media since they couldn’t be bothered to vet the Iraq War. The problem is that conservatives don’t want to know, independents can’t be bothered to look and liberals should be deeply ashamed for not knowing.

But worry not! It’s very VERY easy to clear up this misperception (and piss off conservatives to boot!) in just 4 simple steps.

Step One: Establish the facts of what the deficit is and how it works – Ask the conservative, uninformed “independent” or naughty liberal if they understand that the deficit is not the same as the debt. This is super important because the right has gone VERY far out of its way to confuse the two. And for good reason; the debt has never been higher. This is inevitable since we still have a deficit. The debt is a byproduct of the deficit. The only way to pay down the debt is to turn the deficit into a surplus.

The deficit is how much more we spend than we collect in revenue (taxes, etc.). The debt is how much we owe. The deficit is the credit card, the debt is the bill. A bill that the right wants to pin completely on Obama as if we didn’t have a penny of debt until he took office instead of having been built by almost a century of deficit spending by both Republican and Democratic presidents (but mostly Republican).

Do not proceed until these basic definitions are agreed upon or the conservative will attempt to weasel out of the hole you are digging for them by whining about how Obama increased the debt. If they try, mention that every president except Clinton has done that since World War II, why should Obama be singled out? When they invariably say “Because he’s gone higher than any president ever has!” The same was true of Bush at the time and no one on the right seemed upset about it. Ask them to explain why that is or to drop it and move on. Chances are they’ll drop it.

Step Two: Establish when the budget is passed – This is another deliberate lie the right LOVES to pass around. They would very much like you to believe that the 2009 budget with its record shattering $1.4 Trillion deficit was Obama’s. The reality is that budgets are passed and signed into law at the end of the year before. So the 2000 budget was signed into law by President Clinton and President Bush was stuck with it. In 2017, whoever takes the White House will have a budget signed into law in 2016 by the outgoing President Obama. Therefor, the 2009 budget was not “Obama’s,” it was Bush’s. If you need to prove this definitively, share this link to the CATO Institute. The CATO Institute is a respected but undeniably right-wing thing tank. The opening paragraph in their “About Us” section says: “The Cato Institute is a public policy research organization — a think tank – dedicated to the principles of individual liberty, limited government, free markets and peace.” No one in their right mind can argue the CATO Institute is “liberal.” Yet they clearly state that the 2009 budget does not belong to Obama.

Step 3: Establish what the 2009 deficit was – This will be a little tricky because at this point the conservative you’re talking to will be getting VERY uncomfortable with the conversation. They will try to turn the discussion to ANYTHING else at this point. Why? Because it is a tenet of faith among the right that the 2009 budget was $1.4 Trillion and it was all Obama’s fault. Here’s a link to Fox News that should freeze them in their tracks. The relevant part:

“The federal budget deficit tripled to a record $1.4 trillion for the 2009 fiscal year that ended last week, congressional analysts said Wednesday. – Published October 7 2009

The House and the Senate voted to pass the 2009 budget on June 4-5, 2008. President Bush signed off on all of it. Conservatives will try to blame the Democratic held Senate and House for the deficit but they can’t have it both ways. Either the president is responsible for the budget or he’s not. You can’t blame Obama while holding Bush blameless.

If you want to be a helpful wise ass, remind the person you’re talking to that Obama was elected in November and didn’t take office until January 21. That’s almost a full four months after the 2009 fiscal year, with its 2009 budget, started.

Step 4: What is the deficit now? – That’s easy. Go to the CBO’s page and look. the Congressional Budget Office is nonpartisan. They have to be, anyone can check their math and partisan games would be outed immediately. So here it is. Ready?

If the current laws that govern federal taxes and spending do not change, the budget deficit will shrink this year to $845 billion, or 5.3 percent of gross domestic product (GDP), its smallest size since 2008.

Is $845 Billion more or less than $1.4 Trillion? At this point, a conservative will be spitting nails or will have stopped talking to you several minutes ago. An independent voter should be trying to figure out how they could have been so completely wrong. A liberal should be deeply embarrassed they didn’t know.

Just so we’re all on the same page here. Obama knocked $555 BILLION off of the deficit. That’s an entire third of the total deficit. That’s more than every president in the history of the country put together. Republicans have been screeching for deficit cuts like demented harpies for years (except when a Republican is in office). If a Republican president did this, the Tea Party would be holding parades for him. Obama did it and 90% of the country doesn’t even know it. The GOP has them convinced the deficit is still going up.

Ignorance is the GOP’s best weapon. Knowledge is ours.

Read more: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/03/06/how-to-prove-obama-lowered-the-deficit-in-four-easy-and-indisputable-steps/#ixzz2XzqGRjrk

State of Mine
Jul 3, 2013 - 08:27am PT
whats wrong Dr F.

is putin makin your man look like a pussy? its pathetic to see obama and kerry go on the news and tell our allies that we look into your shorts because everyone does it to everyone else.

maybe you can explain why obama won the nobel peace prize? doubt he would win the vote today. lol

of course there are no answers for this. the libtards are reeling. their man is not as honest as they thought and certainly not worthy of teh nobel peace prize.
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 3, 2013 - 08:36am PT
you are just a hateful troll, I can care less what you post
other than I hope you go eat some rat poison so this world will be a better place

Social climber
So Cal
Jul 3, 2013 - 08:42am PT

Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 3, 2013 - 09:14am PT
ditto for TGT and his fabricated propaganda

SF bay area
Jul 3, 2013 - 09:25am PT
CNN reporting Egyption military action against Morsy may be happening now.

Several of us predicted if the Egyptian protesters didn't get what they wanted (not a brotherhood based government) during the Arab Spring, there would be another attempt. Looks like it's happening now.

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jul 3, 2013 - 09:38am PT
Just so we’re all on the same page here. Obama knocked $555 BILLION off of the deficit. That’s an entire third of the total deficit. That’s more than every president in the history of the country put together.

Remember the impending abyss of world economic collapse that we faced at the end of Spurious George II's glorious reign? Nah didn't thing so. Short term memory, like cognitive dissonance, is a Republican artform.

Gym climber
Jul 3, 2013 - 11:02am PT
Not much related to the topic at hand, but interesting nonetheless--the words and thoughts of Karl Rove:

"...reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." ... "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

(from Ron Suskind, (2004-10-17). "Faith, Certainty and the Presidency of George W. Bush". The New York Times Magazine. ISSN 0028-7822)

I thought this was appropriate (double-posted) here, Ed H. posted it over on climate change thread.

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Jul 3, 2013 - 11:03am PT
New California House Candidate Funded By Advocate For ‘Total Integration Of Biblical Law’
By Josh Israel on Jul 3, 2013 at 11:48 am

State Sen. Mimi Walters (R-CA)
California State Sen. Mimi Walters (R) announced Tuesday that she will run for the open seat of retiring Congressman John Campbell (R-CA), with the endorsements of seven current California Republican Congressmen. While the Orange County Republican says she is running to promote small government and freedom, one of her largest career campaign donors is a millionaire advocate for strict biblical law in the United States.
Walters, who ran unsuccessfully for California Treasurer in 2010, has received at least $22,500 over her career from Howard Fieldstead Ahmanson Jr.’s Fieldstead & Co — making it one of her top ten funders, and making her their second biggest state recipient. Ahmanson, heir to a banking fortune reported to total hundreds of millions, has distributed millions of dollars to right-wing political causes promoting a “Christian worldview.” Fieldstead & Co. is an incorporated private company which Ahmanson uses to distribute money to his favorite causes without having to disclose the donations publicly.
Most notorious among these was the Chalcedon Foundation. Ahmanson served for decades on the board of this radical Christian Reconstructionist organization and heavily funded its efforts. The group’s late founder, Rousas John Rushdoony advocated for American laws to literally follow those in the Book of Leviticus, including death by stoning for gay and lesbian people and similar execution for adulterers, juvenile delinquents, non-believers, and most other Americans. While Ahmanson has made clear he personally does not advocate “the stoning or execution of homosexuals,” he conceded to the Orange County Register in 1985: “My purpose is total integration of biblical law into our lives.”
Ahmanson is a major funder and director of the Discovery Institute, a group which promotes creationism and tries to obstruct science education. He was one of the largest contributors to the unconstitutional Proposition 8 campaign to take away the right of same-sex couples to marry in California, spent heavily in support of school vouchers efforts in Colorado and California, backed CareNet (a group that provides “crisis pregnancy centers,” which mislead women about abortion), and, reportedly, funded a $1 million smear campaign against the Episcopal Church’s first openly gay bishop and efforts to split the worldwide Anglican Communion over LGBT inclusion. And, he was the second-largest donor to a 2006 California ballot initiative effort which would have required the government to compensate any property owners if land-use or zoning laws hurt the value of their property; Walters served as honorary chair for the unsuccessful effort and called the position her “proudest accomplishment.”

In her time in the California Assembly and Senate, Walters has accumulated a voting record that is very much in line with Ahmanson’s far-right views. She has consistently voted against LGBT equality, endorsing Prop. 8, protecting harmful “ex-gay” therapy, and opposing anti-discrimination laws. She opposes women’s reproductive rights. She also is a strong supporter of “school choice” and vouchers.
Walters has called herself a “proven conservative” and has drawn criticism for her anti-immigrant campaign ads. She voted against California’s same-day voter registration law and amassed an embarrassing 3 percent lifetime score from the California League of Conservation Voters.
In the past, even anti-LGBT conservatives like Rep. Frank Wolf (R-VA) and former Gov. Linda Lingle (R-HI) have returned campaign contributions from Ahmanson in light of his radical views and record (Full disclosure: in 2004, the author was president of an LGBT-rights group that successfully pushed Wolf to return a $1,000 contribution from Ahmanson). But Walters has accepted his money since her 2006 campaign.

The Crazy marches on.

State of Mine
Jul 3, 2013 - 11:15am PT
dr FYS,

your admin. is corrupt and lies to the public. just that the admin b4 them.

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