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Social climber
So Cal
Jun 23, 2013 - 06:49am PT
Dingy Harry does it again!

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) and Sen. Dean Heller (R-NV) have inserted a provision that amounts to little more than a handout to Las Vegas casinos into the repackaged immigration reform bill, Breitbart News has learned. This provision, a brazen example of crony capitalism, was inserted into the immigration law enforcement section of the bill despite the fact that it has nothing whatsoever to do with "immigration" or "law enforcement."

On page 66 of the repackaged bill, the following provision appears:

“CORPORATION FOR TRAVEL PROMOTION.—Sec- 9(d)(2)(B) of the Travel Promotion Act of 2009 (22 U.S.C. 2131(d)(2)(B)) is amended by striking ‘‘For each of fiscal years 2012 through 2015,’’ and inserting ‘‘For each fiscal year after 2012.”

The Travel Promotion Act (TPA) of 2009 allows the Secretary of the U.S. Treasury to spend up to $100 million on promoting travel to specific areas of the country. If the provision Reid and Heller inserted into the proposed immigration reform legislation becomes law, the benefits of the TPA would be extended indefinitely.

Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 23, 2013 - 08:09am PT
TGT is posting more Brietbart BS

TGT, why do you hate America?, why do you want it to fail?
are you evil and love to see people suffer and die so the rich can pay less taxes? is that it?
or are you just Wrong about Everything, and too dumb to figure it out?
what is it TGT?
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 23, 2013 - 08:13am PT
I must repost this, to expose the real culprit behind the IRS scandal, Rove and the mainstream GOP. They were trying to shut the Tea Party down, because they were Losing elections that Rove thought he could win with normal GOP idiots.

The real culprit behind the IRS “scandal”: Rove!

11:07 AM 06/04/2013


Bad news, teabaggers. You thought you were going to get away with your phony little “scandalanche,” because you hate Obama, because he’s black. But you overreached, and now it’s all falling apart, and there’s nothing you can do about it. Ha ha ha!

Mark Segal at Philly.com tears the roof off your house of lies, you wingnuts:

Are Karl Rove & GOP behind IRS scandal?

We know the Republican Congress is in a tizzy about the IRS looking into requests for IRS Tax exemptions for organizations named “Tea Party” and other conservative labels. They even had some hearings on them, attempting to tie the White House and President Obama to the scene. But as hard as they try, they simply cannot, since the White House had no knowledge of the incidents until told by the Inspector General. But wait. If President Obama, the White House and Democrats had nothing to do with something that seems so political, what about the Republicans?

Are you following the logic, you stupid birthers? Read it again if you need to. It’s okay to move your lips.

Rather than the guessing game that the Republican Congress wants to play, let’s take a look at the facts, firstly from the hearings themselves. Democrats were not allowed to have any information gathered by the committee’s staff or the list of witnesses in advance. That is highly unusual in a Congressional hearing. Why all the Republican control? To further the point, last week an eye opening report revealed that Congressman Darrell Issa, the House Oversight Committee chairman who made all the charges against the White House, actually knew about the Inspector General’s report before them, the people he was accusing. Remember that this is the same committee that falsified White House emails during the hearings on Benghazi.

Yes, remember that! Don’t ask whether it actually happened, because it didn’t. Just remember it. Remember it as if it were true. That’s the whole key to understanding this.

Second, let’s take a look at the questions asked during those hearings, specifically the questions that were not asked. While they searched for a White House link, the committee never asked about any connections to Republican operatives. Not one question. Why?

Simple: Republicans are evil. Duh!

And now, the most damning possible piece of evidence:

The man in charge of the IRS when this took place was a Bush appointee, Douglas Shulman, at the same time that Karl Rove worked in the White House and Dick Cheney was Vice President.

BAM! BOOM! Awww, $#!+. It’s all over, racists. You might recognize what just got handed to you, because it’s your own ass. (You might want to watch the carbs. Just sayin’.)

Too bad, so sad. It’s not a scandal, and besides, the scandal is all your fault.

Another fake GOP “outrage” collapses. Better luck next time, bigots.
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 23, 2013 - 08:42am PT
So many scandals!!
Who is to blame? well it turns out that the Republicans are to blame for everyone of them, and they just project the blame onto Obama, like little children caught with the berry pie all over their face.

Benghazi - The Republicans cut the funding for the security that the Consulate requested, which ended the lives of 4 Americas when they were attacked by American hating terrorists fueled by the terror that Bush dealt the Arab world.

AP Journalism - The Republicans insisted that Holder investigate the White House leaks, and when he did, they accused him of illegal actions, even though he had all the warrants he needed to make it legal.

IRS Targeting Tea Baggars - It was Rove and the GOP that were trying to shut them down, so they could win more elections, since the tae baggars were getting smeared at the polls.

NSA Surveillance - Started by Bush as warrantless wiretapping every America and foreign alike, Obama put the legal lid on it and made it only accessible by a warrant from a FISA court. Hopefully the Dems will shut it down, after we rid the Republicans from Congress, that were the tyrannical overlords of it in the first place, and insist that it stays so they can keep the fear mongering alive.

Apparently, you can just assume that any fake outrage scandal brought up by the Right wingers is actually just a projection of what horrible acts they are responsible of.
It's despicable, 40% of the Population that jump on every lie that evil can devise all directed at our President.
Sabotage, treason, obstruction, lies, propaganda, hate, misinformation, twisted quotes and projection, will it ever stop?

Not until people like Rush, Mark Levin and Fox News are shut down for being responsible for the rise of the new American Nazi Party.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jun 23, 2013 - 08:45am PT
jEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEzus Doc.. Obama is pissing in yur mouth and your asking for MORE MORE MORE!@

At this juncture, your nealry ALONE...he has made bush look like his twin, yet youll yammer on.. Amazing that is..
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 23, 2013 - 08:47am PT

I'm just laying out the facts
Too bad you are too stupid to be able to assimilate them

go ahead and debunk them if they are wrong
but you can't, so you just spew garbage instead
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jun 23, 2013 - 08:53am PT

so what say ye doc, about this little step back in time.. ^^^^^^^^

He says one thing and does the opposite.. pfffffff..
Jebus H Bomz

Peavine Basecamp
Jun 23, 2013 - 08:56am PT
I don't know much about the Prez. I certainly won't claim to be a certified internet expert anyhow. Glad we have a POTUS who can at least articulate himself though. As an anecdote of one, my life is pretty awesome right now! Keep up the good work Obama!

The bumper stickers on raised trucks provide good entertainment too. Hard to think the 'neck with nuts on his truck isn't maybe a little biased against the darker kind. Maybe he just liked the last one who sounded like a dim bulb he could slug back a jack and cocaine with while watching backyard wrestling. Because, you know, that's what's really important.

Jun 23, 2013 - 10:14am PT

The IRS thing is even more finished than Benghazi is - no repub wants to do anything to further weaken their own party, and strengthen the Tea Party.

We're about to witness the most spectacular implosion of a major political party in modern history, which in turn will utterly ruin what little credibility conservatism itself had left.

We're headed for one-party rule, it looks like. Not what the Founders had in mind - but they hardly could have foreseen the main opposition party committing political suicide on the scale we're currently witnessing.
new world order2

Jun 23, 2013 - 10:30am PT
We're headed for one-party rule, it looks like.

Spoken and hoped for, by a true Communist. Stalin and Mao would be so proud.

Unfortunately, Jeb Bush, (yet another globalist/new world order creation) will keeps things as they are today.
Continued war, increasing joblessness, and a furthering of the police/military big brother state.


Jun 23, 2013 - 10:42am PT

"Spoken and hoped for, by a true Communist. Stalin and Mao would be so proud."

Hahaha, you make your idiotic hero worship of Snowden more embarrassing with every post.

Fortunately for you, you never actually identified yourself, and can slink away anonymously, like all you cowards do.
new world order2

Jun 23, 2013 - 11:12am PT
healyje and hedge---Supertopo's resident Communists.

A claim, neither will deny.

Stalin and Mao would be so proud.


Jun 23, 2013 - 11:22am PT

"healyje and hedge---Supertopo's resident Communists."

Hahahahaha, just another blithering, pathetic, anonymous idiot, too embarrassed by his own stupidity to identify himself.

You failed, fool - your hero is defecting to whatever communist backwater will proudly claim him as one of their own.

Join him, traitor, while there's still time! You know what we did with your type during WW2? You were hanged.

And good riddance.

Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 23, 2013 - 12:49pm PT
He's a Tele skier, so he must have a couple redeeming qualities, other than his bad case of PCT
I got his e-mail address. and his cover is blown...
kidding, I don't care about any of this shit

Do you know that Teflon has Fluoride in it????
You better not use it anymore, it's out to get ya!!

Social climber
joshua tree
Jun 23, 2013 - 07:03pm PT
We're headed for one-party rule, it looks like.

How else could "Barack Overbonner" smell like a "George Bush"

It's been that way for awhile! The "one-party" just isn't on the ballet.

Have you heard of "ALEC"? This is one of the roots.

Social climber
joshua tree
Jun 23, 2013 - 07:17pm PT

Who is to blame?

Silly wabbits! Ever to timid to make a move.

Looking to the Right and to the Left for something to blame.

Whilest all the while the voulcher circles overhead.

Jun 23, 2013 - 11:33pm PT
wbraun wrote:
Snowden did not disclose specific operational secrets, did not blow anyone’s cover and did not place any intel agents in danger like Dick Cheney did when he exposed Valerie Plame as a deep cover CIA NOC.

That's absolutely right. This is also what makes Snowden different from Manning, who was heavily criticized for leaking what was considered classified information.

For whistle blowing, Snowden did it right, he made the public aware without compromising any classified/security/individual's information.

Jun 23, 2013 - 11:44pm PT
TGT wrote:
Plame was never deep cover and it was Richard Armitage that outed her.

She was a covert agent, and whether super deep, mildly deep, or just under the surface, it is illegal to reveal a covert agent's identity.

The leak was orchestrated by the Vice President's office with full approval from the president, all for political reasons.

Jun 24, 2013 - 12:18am PT

"For whistle blowing, Snowden did it right, he made the public aware without compromising any classified/security/individual's information."

And you know that...how?

You know what he's said to China and Russia? Really?

Would you mind giving the CIA a call, and letting them know what you know? Thanks

Blowing a NOC's cover is wrong, but what Snowden is doing is OK?


Trad climber
Jun 24, 2013 - 03:51am PT
lots of angles on this yall elites aint even thinking to concider
heres a real smart women covering the bases

better plug your ears; im sure youll all be offended

naomi wolf

I hate to do this but I feel obligated to share, as the story unfolds, my creeping concern that the NSA leaker is not who he purports to be, and that the motivations involved in the story may be more complex than they appear to be.
This is in no way to detract from the great courage of Glenn Greenwald in reporting the story, and the gutsiness of the Guardian in showcasing this kind of reporting, which is a service to America that US media is not performing at all.
It is just to raise some cautions as the story unfolds, and to raise some questions about how it is unfolding, based on my experience with high-level political messaging.
Some of Snowden’s emphases seem to serve an intelligence/police state objective, rather than to challenge them.

a) He is super-organized, for a whistleblower, in terms of what candidates, the White House, the State Dept. et al call ‘message discipline.’ He insisted on publishing a power point in the newspapers that ran his initial revelations. I gather that he arranged for a talented filmmaker to shoot the Greenwald interview. These two steps – which are evidence of great media training, really ‘PR 101′ – are virtually never done (to my great distress) by other whistleblowers, or by progressive activists involved in breaking news, or by real courageous people who are under stress and getting the word out. They are always done, though, by high-level political surrogates.

b) In the Greenwald video interview, I was concerned about the way Snowden conveys his message. He is not struggling for words, or thinking hard, as even bright, articulate whistleblowers under stress will do. Rather he appears to be transmitting whole paragraphs smoothly, without stumbling. To me this reads as someone who has learned his talking points – again the way that political campaigns train surrogates to transmit talking points.

c) He keeps saying things like, “If you are a journalist and they think you are the transmission point of this info, they will certainly kill you.” Or: “I fully expect to be prosecuted under the Espionage Act.” He also keeps stressing what he will lose: his $200,000 salary, his girlfriend, his house in Hawaii. These are the kinds of messages that the police state would LIKE journalists to take away; a real whistleblower also does not put out potential legal penalties as options, and almost always by this point has a lawyer by his/her side who would PROHIBIT him/her from saying, ‘come get me under the Espionage Act.” Finally in my experience, real whistleblowers are completely focused on their act of public service and trying to manage the jeopardy to themselves and their loved ones; they don’t tend ever to call attention to their own self-sacrifice. That is why they are heroes, among other reasons. But a police state would like us all to think about everything we would lose by standing up against it.

d) It is actually in the Police State’s interest to let everyone know that everything you write or say everywhere is being surveilled, and that awful things happen to people who challenge this. Which is why I am not surprised that now he is on UK no-fly lists – I assume the end of this story is that we will all have a lesson in terrible things that happen to whistleblowers. That could be because he is a real guy who gets in trouble; but it would be as useful to the police state if he is a fake guy who gets in ‘trouble.’

e) In stories that intelligence services are advancing (I would call the prostitutes-with-the-secret-service such a story), there are great sexy or sex-related mediagenic visuals that keep being dropped in, to keep media focus on the issue. That very pretty pole-dancing Facebooking girlfriend who appeared for, well, no reason in the media coverage…and who keeps leaking commentary, so her picture can be recycled in the press…really, she happens to pole-dance? Dan Ellsberg’s wife was and is very beautiful and doubtless a good dancer but somehow she took a statelier role as his news story unfolded…

f) Snowden is in Hong Kong, which has close ties to the UK, which has done the US’s bidding with other famous leakers such as Assange. So really there are MANY other countries that he would be less likely to be handed over from…

g) Media reports said he had vanished at one point to ‘an undisclosed location’ or ‘a safe house.’ Come on. There is no such thing. Unless you are with the one organization that can still get off the surveillance grid, because that org created it.

h) I was at dinner last night to celebrate the brave and heroic Michael Ratner of the Center for Constitutional Rights. Several of Assange’s also brave and talented legal team were there, and I remembered them from when I had met with Assange. These attorneys are present at every moment when Assange meets the press – when I met with him off the record last Fall in the Ecuadoran embassy, his counsel was present the whole time, listening and stepping in when necessary.

Seeing these diligent attentive free-speech attorneys for another whisleblower reinforced my growing anxiety: WHERE IS SNOWDEN’S LAWYER as the world’s media meet with him? A whistleblower talking to media has his/her counsel advising him/her at all times, if not actually being present at the interview, because anything he/she says can affect the legal danger the whistleblower may be in . It is very, very odd to me that a lawyer has not appeared, to my knowledge, to stand at Snowden’s side and keep him from further jeopardy in interviews.

Again I hate to cast any skepticism on what seems to be a great story of a brave spy coming in from the cold in the service of American freedom. And I would never raise such questions in public if I had not been told by a very senior official in the intelligence world that indeed, there are some news stories that they create and drive – even in America (where propagandizing Americans is now legal). But do consider that in Eastern Germany, for instance, it was the fear of a machine of surveillance that people believed watched them at all times – rather than the machine itself – that drove compliance and passivity. From the standpoint of the police state and its interests – why have a giant Big Brother apparatus spying on us at all times – unless we know about it?

"My Creeping Concern that the NSA Leaker Edward Snowden is not who he Purports to be…"

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