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rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Jun 17, 2014 - 08:51pm PT
Dickwad and his daughter , free-market apologists , are angry because Haliburton isn't getting any no-bid contracts from the US taxpayers..I feel for them...
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Jun 17, 2014 - 08:54pm PT
Why are Republicans Wrong about Everything?

Seems to be a systematic way to roll.


If everything Obama does is wrong, it becomes a torpedo in the side of Repub ship when he actually does stuff right.

TODAY:

1. Captures Bengazi terrorist leader. KPOW! Sinks the Bengazi battle ship.

2. Protects big tract of Ocean. Muffled Kapow. If you say anything bad it's a hit.

moosedrool

climber
lost, far away from Poland
Jun 17, 2014 - 08:59pm PT
The answer may be surprising.

Credit: A. Mleczko

Moose
Binks

climber
Uranus
Jun 17, 2014 - 09:07pm PT
Is the constant morphing of "republican" and "conservative" into some lame ad hominem? Does that make your argument any better?

f*#k argument, it's time for a knock out punch

wtf does it matter if FOOLS like Glenn Beck say stuff like "oh hey, yeah, you were right Iraq was a mistake, sorry about that Three Trillion and all those lives, but hey, Conservatism is great"

NO IT ISN'T IT'S PSYCHOTIC and it needs BEAT DOWN
Ricky

climber
Sometimes LA
Jun 18, 2014 - 04:44am PT
1. Captures Bengazi terrorist leader. KPOW! Sinks the Bengazi battle ship.

That's nothing but a distraction from Benghazi.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Jun 18, 2014 - 05:02am PT
Cheney's open criticism of Obama is much like the Clinton Missle attack on Kadafi..Another Dick wagging the Dog moment...Moose...That confirms my suspicions...
Sketch

Trad climber
H-ville
Jun 18, 2014 - 05:12am PT
Dr. F.

Trad climber
SoCal

Topic Author's Reply - Jun 17, 2014 - 05:05pm PT
IRS Scandal
It's just a witch hunt and Looking for more of Obama's blood

Facts: the law is very vague about the specifics on what non-profit org. means,
the original intent of the tax status was for Only non-profit/non-political organizations, like charities.

All the flagged orgs. had political names, both left and right.

Out of the 20 groups applying for tax-exempt status whose names contained "progress" or "progressive", only 6 had been chosen for more scrutiny as compared to all of the 292 groups applying for tax-exempt status whose names contained "tea party", "patriot", or "9/12".

Six progressive groups (30%) vs. 292 conservative groups (100%).

Out of 292 applications, not a single one avoided additional scrutiny.

Now, it seems they've lost two years of emails. Not just Lois Lerner's emails.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Jun 18, 2014 - 05:19am PT
Sketch...That's totally descriminating...Why would the IRS profile any group with the name Tea Party or Patriot..? Maybe they should have tried using the name Tax Evaders or Wing-Nuts to stay under the radar..?
Sketch

Trad climber
H-ville
Jun 18, 2014 - 06:06am PT
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM

Jun 17, 2014 - 08:44pm PT
What f-ing world do the likes of Dick & Liz Cheney live in...Ron world.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/17/dick-cheney-liz-cheney-obama-iraq_n_5505619.html

The one where you don't give up hard fought gains. Cheney's rhetoric is clearly over-the-top, but his main points and criticisms are still valid.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Jun 18, 2014 - 06:09am PT
Sketch posted
Out of the 20 groups applying for tax-exempt status whose names contained "progress" or "progressive", only 6 had been chosen for more scrutiny as compared to all of the 292 groups applying for tax-exempt status whose names contained "tea party", "patriot", or "9/12".

Six progressive groups (30%) vs. 292 conservative groups (100%).

Out of 292 applications, not a single one avoided additional scrutiny.


Look at that data juking. Your "source" (citation needed!) narrowly defined "liberal sounding groups" as having to contain "progressive," which most do not while containing the most common catch-all buzzwords for conservative groups at the time. It also omits all the other groups selected for extra scrutiny that don't "sound" partisan. The reality is that a pile of Tea Party and 9/11 truther groups started in a relatively short amount of time seeking not for profit status and some didn't deserve it. They certainly deserved better communication and a faster process than they were given, but there's a certain irony to insisting the government can't do anything right, starting a group to sell that idea and then being upset when it fails you.

In the meantime, barring actual evidence of partisan hackery, you're still just racing for the victim position.
sandstone conglomerate

climber
sharon conglomerate central
Jun 18, 2014 - 06:14am PT
Of course Dick Cheney is upset about Iraq. His Halliburton stock is getting ready to take a huge hit:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/19/world/middleeast/iraqi-oil-refinery-ablaze-as-army-and-militants-clash.html

Maybe he can get his private army in on the action. That dude deserves to be in jail.
Sketch

Trad climber
H-ville
Jun 18, 2014 - 06:21am PT
Look at that data juking. Your "source" narrowly defined "liberal sounding groups" as having to contain "progressive," which most do not while containing the most common catch-all buzzwords for conservative groups at the time. It also omits all the other groups selected for extra scrutiny that don't "sound" partisan. The reality is that a pile of Tea Party and 9/11 truther groups started in a relatively short amount of time seeking not for profit status and some didn't deserve it. They certainly deserved better communication and a faster process than they were given, but there's a certain irony to insisting the government can't do anything right, starting a group to sell that idea and then being upset when it fails you.

In the meantime, barring actual evidence of partisan hackery, you're still just racing for the victim position.

I looked for a more in-depth breakdown of the flagged groups. The above was all I found. There was no intent to "juke" the data.

If you have a better summary of the relevant groups, please post it.
crankster

Trad climber
Jun 18, 2014 - 06:29am PT
Cheney's rhetoric is clearly over-the-top, but his main points and criticisms are still valid.

With all due respect, anybody who believes this should seek immediate medical attention.
Sketch

Trad climber
H-ville
Jun 18, 2014 - 06:31am PT
sandstone conglomerate

climber
sharon conglomerate central

Jun 18, 2014 - 06:14am PT
Of course Dick Cheney is upset about Iraq. His Halliburton stock is getting ready to take a huge hit:

You sure about that? It's currently near it's all time highs, up 35% YTD.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Jun 18, 2014 - 06:37am PT
Sketch posted
If you have a better summary of the relevant groups, please post it.

I don't need to. You provided no link and I'm not the one charging wrongdoing. If you can't provide decent evidence of your impeachment-worthy Nixonesque Presidential micromanagement of the IRS then stop making the claim. I've posted plenty of evidence refuting this in the last couple of pages. Read it.


Binks argued
f*#k argument, it's time for a knock out punch

If you really think morphing "conservative" into "crapservative" or whatever else is a "knockout punch" I think you might not get politics.
Cragar

climber
MSLA - MT
Jun 18, 2014 - 06:41am PT
I looked for a more in-depth breakdown of the flagged groups. The above was all I found. There was no intent to "juke" the data

Nice, one source and you took it. The Troll for Life bit hard. Finding 5.5 top roping difficult eh?!
sandstone conglomerate

climber
sharon conglomerate central
Jun 18, 2014 - 07:15am PT
Yes, i'm sure. Benghazi.
Sketch

Trad climber
H-ville
Jun 18, 2014 - 07:16am PT
I don't need to. You provided no link and I'm not the one charging wrongdoing. If you can't provide decent evidence of your impeachment-worthy Nixonesque Presidential micromanagement of the IRS then stop making the claim. I've posted plenty of evidence refuting this in the last couple of pages. Read it.

You're the one claiming I gave a misleading presentation of the facts. Can you back your claim?

Are factual claims automatically disqualified if they include facts? Is that the standard here?
Here's a link: http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/TIGTAFinalResponseToRepLevin06262013.pdf

And what's the deal about "your impeachment-worthy Nixonesque Presidential micromanagement of the IRS then stop making the claim"?

Where did I make such a claim?
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Jun 18, 2014 - 07:24am PT
Sheckt wrote: The one where you don't give up hard fought gains. Cheney's rhetoric is clearly over-the-top, but his main points and criticisms are still valid.

No they are not...it is another no win war. We didn't win it 2003 and we are not going to win it now.

Cheney is a f*#king chickenshit chickenhawk.
dirtbag

climber
Jun 18, 2014 - 07:25am PT
Cheney is a f*#king chickenshit chickenhawk.


So are quite a few people who post here, unfortunately.
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