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sandstone conglomerate

climber
sharon conglomerate central
Jun 13, 2014 - 03:37pm PT
Here's another one to pin on those bullshit "conservatives"...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/03/03/suicide-army-rate-soldiers-institute-health/5983545/
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jun 13, 2014 - 03:45pm PT

now let's stop this Republican bashing

after all, they are really good on the National Debt

take for example their brilliant strategy of cutting taxes while invading iraq, at the same time!

well considered, and sure enough the deficit and national debt went down

because all of that Iraq oil money paid for the war

and the tax cut stimulated the economy, just wait until this recession is over, you'll see
sandstone conglomerate

climber
sharon conglomerate central
Jun 13, 2014 - 03:48pm PT
I'll keep them coming....

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/05/veterans-affairs-backlogs-waiting-lists-george-bush
dirtbag

climber
Jun 13, 2014 - 04:01pm PT
Norton, you forgot to mention their refusal to raise the debt ceiling. Debts are only a problem if you choose to pay for them.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Jun 13, 2014 - 05:08pm PT
dirtbag

climber
Jun 13, 2014 - 05:10pm PT
STFU, you racist teabagging puke. You voted for Shrub twice.
Binks

climber
Uranus
Jun 13, 2014 - 05:19pm PT
Obama, keepin' it real

http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/06/13/4177000/obama-meets-with-native-americans.html


F*#k Iraq, TGT you and all your friends should go take up arms in person for Iraq since you love it so much. Spend your own money to get over there too. Stay until you "liberate" them.


*Better yet, stay until you "liberate" them AND find the WMD's.
sandstone conglomerate

climber
sharon conglomerate central
Jun 13, 2014 - 05:31pm PT
TGT, obviously you can't read.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Jun 13, 2014 - 05:33pm PT
President Obama really isn't a war time commander in chief. Neither was President Bush. Unluckily the the voters who approved of the Iraq invasion weren't war time Americans either. More like Starbucks consumers.

DMT
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Jun 13, 2014 - 05:49pm PT
Which anyone who was paying attention knew at the time. It was just too outrageous to be believed by most Americans and Brits.


Before Shock and Awe, the World had the largest demonstrations ever. People rallied all over the planet to try to stop Bush & Co. from doing "the stupid."

Largest single-day protest ever in history--worldwide.


And now the VA has insufficient resources to treat all the blown up men and women. Many for the rest of their lives.

As Bush & Co. beat the drums of war, they were simultaneously running bills through the Houses, slashing veterans benefits. I was crying.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Jun 13, 2014 - 05:54pm PT
but at least they got their opposition to equal pay for women right

Right on Norton, we must praise the GOP and all their backers.

And don't forget all the help they've recently given to our students by making sure they understand what it means to "pay the man."
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Jun 13, 2014 - 06:02pm PT
Again, though, I don't see this as a time for partisan bickering.


Yes, I can see why. Because if you do actually look at partisan politics, you'll not see a very good picture of the Grand Ol' Party. Let's not lay blame for why Iraq is such a wrecked and wretched place, not when we would see what Bush & Co started there.


It's totally sickening. We hear about how Americans in the region are getting so sick from the chemicals our nation poured on that country. But we never hear about the people who actually call that place their home. The only f*#kin' thing we care about is the Americans who come home with radiation sickness.

When it's my time to climb or descend, I'll probably be saying "On Rapel!" rather than "On Belay." And I really hope it's that way, because there are certain folk in this world that I pray are down there with me.



EDIT: I'm sorry, the topic just gets me mad.
Dr. F.

Trad climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 13, 2014 - 06:02pm PT
I'll send out the Bat Signal to NWO II
to see what the part of the underworld is controlling all of this....

Credit: Dr. F.


hopefully, he will tell us what all of this is leading to
crankster

Trad climber
Jun 13, 2014 - 07:16pm PT
I wonder...if they were taken off the Fox Indoctrination Channel would they take on a semblance of normalcy? Have any experiments been done with the Afflicted?

Credit: crankster
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Jun 13, 2014 - 07:18pm PT
Norton..They , the wealthy conservatives , vote republican for the simple reason of not wanting to pay taxes...the dumb-ass , conservative working stiffs vote republican because they think the wealthy will someday pay them a living wage...The jokes on them...Vote republican....
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jun 13, 2014 - 07:19pm PT
I want to read their well reasoned and factually truthful responses.

All this time and I never once took you for a mere troll Norton!



until now
Dr. F.

Trad climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 13, 2014 - 07:19pm PT
Credit: Dr. F.
Dr. F.

Trad climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 13, 2014 - 07:23pm PT

Conservatives Are So Conservative They Think the Congressional GOP Are Moderate Squishes

Eric Cantor lost because hard-core voters think his kind keep selling out to Obama. The idea is insane as they are.

Michael Tomasky 6/13/2014

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/13/conservatives-are-so-conservative-they-think-the-congressional-gop-are-moderate-squishes.html


Among the 3,672 reasons you’ve read and heard for David Brat’s victory over Eric Cantor, here’s one you haven’t seen. This explanation doesn’t have anything to do with Cantor palling around with lobbyists, or with Laura Ingraham’s one-liners. It’s about ideology, and it’s pretty straightforward: Self-identified conservatives in 2014 are really conservative, and they increasingly think that Republicans in Congress—Republicans in Congress, mind you—are a bunch of namby-pambies.


You want numbers? I got numbers. Last month, the centrist Democratic group Third Way released a study called “The State of the Center.” The report is not just another poll. It’s a really comprehensive and unique piece of work that yields more illuminating results than any poll. It has many elements, but here’s the part of interest to us. The group asked 1,500 Americans to identify themselves on an ideological scale of 1 to 9, 1 being the most liberal and 9 being the most conservative. Then these respondents were asked where they would place Democrats in Congress, Republicans in Congress, Barack Obama, and their ideal president. The answers are fascinating and jaw-dropping in that way that these kinds of findings about conservatives are, alas, no longer jaw-dropping.

Let’s start on the left side of the spectrum. Liberals put themselves at 3.88 on the ideology scale—that is, considerably closer to the middle (5) than to the far left (1). They put Obama at 4.23, just a little nearer the center than they placed themselves. And they put Democrats in Congress at 4.3 and their ideal president at the same spot. Takeaway: Liberals see themselves as being pretty close to where they see their political leaders, and that place isn’t all that far from the center.

Moderates saw themselves as slightly right-of-center collectively, at 5.37. Interestingly, they see Democrats in Congress at 4.08, or .92 ticks away from the dead political center of 5. But they put Republicans in Congress at 6.63, almost twice as far away from the center as they put Democrats. They placed Obama, incidentally, at 3.88—a little to the left of where they put the Democrats in Congress, but still a good .51 closer to the center than they put congressional Republicans.


Conservatives put themselves at 7.4 on the 1-to-9 scale—that is, closer to the extremist edge than to the center by almost a whole point (.8).

Before we get to conservatives, permit me this brief methodological digression. This rating system, explains Third Way’s Jim Kessler, is a little like a Richter scale. That is, just as the difference between 7 and 8 on a Richter scale is much greater than the difference between 3 and 4 (because it’s a “logarithmic scale”), so too here it’s reasonable to think of the increments as more pronounced the farther they emanate out from the center. This is because far more people want to think of themselves as reasonable and kind of moderate than as extremist. So that .51 difference I cite in the paragraph above in moderates’ views of Democrats and Republicans in Congress respectively is bigger than it may sound.

All right. Now. Conservatives put themselves at 7.4 on the 1-to-9 scale—that is, closer to the extremist edge than to the center by almost a whole point (.8). They also put themselves more than twice as far away from the center as liberals did. They put Obama at 2.93 and Democrats in Congress at 3.42.

But here’s the most important number. Self-identified conservatives put Republicans in Congress at 5.76. In other words: Conservatives see congressional Republicans as basically on the center-right! Two years ago, when Third Way first asked these questions, self-identified conservatives put themselves at the same 7.4, but they put Republicans in Congress at 5.81. Now, the difference between 5.81 and 5.76 isn’t large, but it does mean that if anything, conservatives see congressional Republicans as a little more moderate than they did two years ago.

What does this have to do with Cantor and Brat? A lot. Conservatives—who, by the way, made up a whopping 79 percent of Republicans in the survey, while liberals made up just 39 percent of Democrats—see a moderate-ish congressional party that is selling out their core principles. And this reflects, in turn, Brat’s biggest and most fundamental criticism of Cantor, that the majority leader was a sell-out on immigration. What most of the post-outcome anecdotal analysis has been telling us is backed up precisely by these depressing and all-too-not-surprising numbers.

The upshot? Expect to see more David Brats. Yes, it’s hard to beat an incumbent. The incumbent has to screw up in some of the ways Cantor did, and most of his fellow incumbents will have taken note and cut back on the Beltway gallivanting. But the logic of these things is that the tea party doesn’t have to win many races to gain leverage. Up to Brat, the tea partiers lost five or six in a row. Now, they’ve won just one, and every Republican on Capitol Hill is so terrified that they won’t deviate an inch from the tea-party agenda. Someday, this extremism will come crashing down on them. But we’re for some rough water until then.


Dr. F rates at a 3.514
pretty close to a Middle of the Road Centrist
WBraun

climber
Jun 13, 2014 - 07:25pm PT
You politards are totally fuking insane.

And stupid too ....
crankster

Trad climber
Jun 13, 2014 - 07:33pm PT
Insightful comments from the Area 51 bunker from Werner King of Weird. The vodka IV is running pure.
What an idiot.
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