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Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - May 8, 2013 - 06:25pm PT
There are plenty of reasons to oppose the policies of Obama, Biden , Reid and Pelosi. Instead they waste their time trying to create cults of personal villification. Argh!

John

What reasons are there to oppose the policies of Obama, Bidan, etc?
you are just as bad as your so called 'cultists"

oppose for no other reason than to oppose, to act in defiance, to be a hindrance to progress, to be against...
That is the opposite of patriotism, and the opposite of; for the good of all, as in WWJD, help those that need help.

The Republican brought us to the brink, and have only obstructed any way out of this mess.
All they have is "to blame it on Obama", they can't even point put what he has done wrong, other than he let the Republicans filibuster all the Dems policies, I guess he was supposed to have a Constitutional showdown with the Republicans and tell them to GFTS's to get any Republican support according to most repubs like JE.
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
May 8, 2013 - 06:50pm PT
No I'm not, Dave, but I'm appalled by what I see them concentrating on. We still have a great deal of economic hurt in this country, and they seem to be putting all their energy on what happened at Benghazi.

Having lived through the Watergate crisis as an adult, I couldn't imagine anything worse for this country right now than Obama hamstrung by a similar sort of disaster. Instead of a President who, at least nominally, is beholden to the country as a whole, we end up with an imperial Congress beholden to the most parochial of interests. While I strongly disagree with some of Obama's policies, and think Obamacare is a disaster, I think we need a strong administration to run a government of a country dependent on it. Could you imagine a Biden administration? Really?

I think there are important questions that need to be answered about what we were told in the Benghazi attack, those issues pale, to me, in comparison to dealing with an exceedingly fragile economy, a wildly unstable middle east, a frighfully irrational North Korea, and a world that still looks to the US for leadership.

John
jghedge

climber
May 8, 2013 - 07:10pm PT

"Could you imagine a Biden administration? Really?"


Easily. A tad long in the tooth...but wingnuts lionize Reagan, even though he was clearly suffering the effects of Alzheimers/gun shot wounds during his last few years in office, and Nancy was calling in an astrologist to help set policy.

jstan

climber
May 8, 2013 - 07:54pm PT
While I think my advice on national policy is based upon inadequate information, at a minimum, I do think our penchant for lecturing the Soviets on human rights does no one any good. I don't see Putin giving ground on that. Russian and American histories could not be more dissimilar. Significant areas of the globe are controlled by populations evidencing irrational behavior. The only way we are going to manage this is by being more successful at stimulating cooperation between the major powers. That should be our major focus. Present global politics are unlike that which existed before.

In Syria we are damned if we do and damned if we don't, which gives us some leverage. If we would but work to align the major powers to the extent possible we could allow these countries to set their own future without outside interference.

The republicans are in the process of rendering themselves irrelevant.Their irrational self-interested behavior has long been apparent as indicated by how ineffectual was the latest campaign spending binge. Lincoln got emancipation passed by awarding jobs as postmasters to all and sundry. If Obama is not doing whatever to break republican block voting, I will be quite disappointed.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
May 8, 2013 - 08:02pm PT
While I strongly disagree with some of Obama's policies, and think Obamacare is a disaster, I think we need a strong administration to run a government of a country dependent on it. Could you imagine a Biden administration? Really?

John, have you seen what has happened in Mass, under a system almost identical to Obamacare?

We don't actually have to speculate about what is going to happen.....


It is estimated that emergency room visits have declined by 5–8% as a result of the health reform. The reduction in emergency room visits is most pronounced during regular office hours when physician's offices are likely to be open

In June 2011, a Boston Globe review concluded that the healthcare overhaul "has, after five years, worked as well as or better than expected.

A study conducted by the Urban Institute and released in December 2010 by the Massachusetts Division of Health Care Finance and Policy stated that as of June 2010, 98.1 percent of state residents had coverage. This compared to 97.3 percent having coverage in the state in 2009 and 83.3 percent having coverage nationwide. Among children and seniors the 2010 coverage rate was even higher, at 99.8 percent and 99.6 percent respectively.

The program is largely seen as the textbook example of how mandatory, state-subsidized healthcare could work.--Forbes Magazine

“I think it has been a huge success,” says Michael Widmer, president of the Massachusetts Taxpayers Foundation, an independent state watchdog that has a reputation as the “keeper of the keys” on the state budget numbers.

Employers are not up in arms over universal, affordable healthcare coverage either, says Widmer. A two year old study from Urban Institute revealed that concerns over employers dropping coverage or scaling back benefits because of health reform have not been realized. “I have not seen any evidence at all that healthcare reform has hurt state businesses.”

In 2005, just 70% of the state’s employers offered health insurance. After “RomneyCare”, it went up to 77%.

In 2009, the Massachusetts Taxpayers Foundation produced a report titled “Massachusetts Health Reform: The Myth Of Uncontrolled Costs.” The report found that the cost of “RomneyCare” was “modest” and within early projections of how much the state would have to spend to implement universal coverage. Based on actual and projected spending data for the first four years of health care reform, the Foundation concluded that state budget spending on health reform has grown from a base of $1.04 billion in fiscal year 2006 to around $1.75 billion in 2010. That’s an increase of $707 million, half of which is supported by federal reimbursements for Medicaid, or MassHealth. The $353 million state share that remains translates into an average yearly increase of only $88 million.

“For a state whose budget is around $30 billion, that’s not too bad,” Widmer says. “We are working on a new study now and the numbers are pretty much the same.” Costs are not skyrocketing out of control. The plan is not perfect. But in terms of covering the locals with affordable health insurance without burdening local businesses, the plan has been successful.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2012/01/20/romney-care-massachusetts-healthcare-reform/





HOW DOES THE PUBLIC FEEL ABOUT
MASSACHUSETTS HEALTH REFORM?
 Two out of three adults support Massachusetts health reform.
 Physician support for reform remains high.
 Most employers agree that health reform has been good for
Massachusetts.

https://www.mahealthconnector.org/portal/binary/com.epicentric.contentmanagement.servlet.ContentDeliveryServlet/Health%2520Care%2520Reform/Overview/HealthReformAssessingtheResults.pdf

Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
May 8, 2013 - 08:14pm PT
While I strongly disagree with some of Obama's policies, and think Obamacare is a disaster,

of course you do, you are a Republican

and if the bill was passed by Republicans you would support it because the ACA is the very soul of the "taking personal responsibility" that the very conservative Heritage Foundation advocated for as national health insurance, but changed their mind as soon a a black Democrat agreed with them

a "disaster"?

bullsh!t

over two billion dollars has been refunded to premium payers as a result of the requirement that at least 85% of premium dollars must be, gasp, actually spent on healthcare

this has resulted in my own monthly premium this year going DOWN over $80 a month while my previous $2500 deductible was cut half to $1250

oh, tell the MILLIONS of Americans it was a "disaster" who are able to have their children covered up to the age of 25 now, and tell millions more how sorry they that their own children HAVE to be covered regardless of pre existing conditions

I could go on and on and on

but why bother John, for you are as steadfast bull headed and factually ignorant as the Republican morons you vote for who embarrass their party every day in the press
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 8, 2013 - 08:15pm PT
harry reid-tard recently coined obamacare as a "train-wreck"...
jghedge

climber
May 8, 2013 - 08:16pm PT

"a "disaster"?

bullsh!t"


He's right - it is, and will be a disaster

For their idiotic, and morally/intellectually bankrupt, party.
jghedge

climber
May 8, 2013 - 08:22pm PT
"harry reid-tard recently coined obamacare as a "train-wreck"..."


Nope - you're wrong, and lying, as always.

He said it would be a train wreck if not properly implemented.


Just another pathetic, stupid lie.

But hey -lying is all you got, as well as being your best character trait. Might as well milk it for all you can.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
May 8, 2013 - 08:22pm PT
I think there are important questions that need to be answered about what we were told in the Benghazi attack, those issues pale, to me, in comparison to dealing with an exceedingly fragile economy, a wildly unstable middle east, a frighfully irrational North Korea, and a world that still looks to the US for leadership.

So if we just "let Benghazi go", and focus on the economy, the economy will get better?

Haven't we been down this road ala Paul Ryan and other budgets rejected by the Senate? Have they even passed one yet?

Benghazi is a big deal IMO, but I also agree the economy is bigger. I think the families, and the public, deserve the FACTS on both issues. And action!

EDIT:
harry reid-tard recently coined obamacare as a "train-wreck"...


It was Dem, Max Baccus.
jghedge

climber
May 8, 2013 - 08:25pm PT

"ala Paul Ryan and other budgets rejected by the Senate? Have they even passed one yet?"


Hahahaha, idiot. Paul Ryan isn't a senator.


Let us know when the Senate has the authority to enact budgets.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
May 8, 2013 - 08:26pm PT
I meant House Bills rejected by the Senate.
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
May 8, 2013 - 08:27pm PT
harry reid-tard recently coined obamacare as a "train-wreck"...

What he said, Ron was that it " COULD BE a train wreck if it wasn't implemented properly..."

And who wants to not implement it properly?

That's right...


Kinda like saying there could be a train wreck if vandals took some rails off the rail line.
jghedge

climber
May 8, 2013 - 08:37pm PT
On the side of reason and common sense - John Stannard and Kevin Worrall - quintessential climbing pioneers

On the wingnut side - Rong and Bluering - who between them have, at best, one season of beginner-level climbing.


Pretty much aaaaaallllll you need to know.





Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
May 8, 2013 - 09:09pm PT
hey dumb fuk

YOU are exactly the kind of low income non insured "american" who pays little or likely nothing in federal income taxes

while at the same time will benefit the most financially when the ACA's mandatory insurance coverage kicks in

you don't know your own ass from second base

rSin

Trad climber
calif
May 9, 2013 - 05:45am PT
which is admittedly difficult now
given all the chanting of UhMeRiKu!
it takes to get into heaven these days
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
May 9, 2013 - 06:12am PT
Jobless claims fall to lowest level in almost five-and-half years

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/09/us-usa-economy-jobless-idUSBRE9480JL20130509


BENGHAZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
May 9, 2013 - 06:39am PT
"I think there are important questions that need to be answered about what we were told in the Benghazi attack, those issues pale, to me, in comparison to dealing with an exceedingly fragile economy, a wildly unstable middle east, a frighfully irrational North Korea, and a world that still looks to the US for leadership."



John, your comment above is the epitome of why our country is going down in flames in so many ways.

Our society lives and breathes a desire to avoid accountability, right up to our President. Ignoring the deception that took place over Benghazi lets an administration off the hook of accountability....they allowed American patriots to be murdered in order to save the election for Obama.

Those World issues you mention above are the result of Obama's lack of leadership and strength. The World no longer looks at our Nation for leadership....we have lost our position of strength because Obama gave it away.

Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
May 9, 2013 - 06:43am PT
our country is going down in flames

Pure Bullsh#t.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
May 9, 2013 - 06:56am PT
we have lost our position of strength because Obama gave it away.

Care to comment on how much damage the Shrub did to our world image?
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