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Apr 26, 2013 - 10:00pm PT

Hahahaha, Blewey and TGT both tried to argue how good KXL will be for the US

And, as usual, neither one had the slightest clue of what they were talking about

30 seconds spent reading the Wiki page would have saved them some pretty mortifying embarrassment...but no.


Somewhere out there
Apr 27, 2013 - 09:50am PT
Hahahaha, Blewey and TGT both tried to argue how good KXL will be for the US

 Like you say, it only takes a few questions to find out the bad side of the KXL. For me it doesn't take much poking to find out the truth about actions such as this.

These two characters need to watch The Wizard Of Oz a few more times…. They still to the Oz as if there is one, and never bother to look behind the curtain and find out the truth.

It's sad for each of them.

Apr 27, 2013 - 04:51pm PT
Repub "Government" In Action:

Credit: jghedge


Social climber
So Cal
Apr 27, 2013 - 05:53pm PT


Apr 27, 2013 - 06:03pm PT

Comparing flight delays to explosions that kill 14 people - stupid and lame.

Typical Wingnut FAIL.


Social climber
the Wastelands
Apr 27, 2013 - 06:12pm PT
Comparing flight delays to explosions that kill 14 people - stupid and lame.

god TGT, you are one ignorant and pathetic jerk

you are sure not a Patriotic American

why don't you move to Somalia

Somewhere out there
Apr 27, 2013 - 06:15pm PT
I have to say… TGT's cartoon has some truth to it….

The airline industry has made a mockery of the FAA.
Agribusiness has made a mockery of the FDA.
NRA has made a mockery of the ATF.

The list goes on… The executives of republicon favorite businesses get tapped to be on one committee or another and soon find themselves in a position of power and they will to destroy or push back regulations enough to make it seem as though there are no regulations for the industry that they themselves came from and are in charge of regulating….

So… yeah… FAA is wasteful… other than posting cartoons on an online climbers forum… What do you plan to do about it?

oh, wait…. you're a repuglicon… you'll do nothing.

Thanks for the oh so meaningful input TGT


Apr 27, 2013 - 07:16pm PT

"I'm not the strapping young muslim socialist I used to be"

Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 27, 2013 - 07:48pm PT

Really, you're almost claiming that the extremist are justified, in their terrorism.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

The wars in the ME by the USA where self defense, in reaction to 9/11.

Do you think the suicide attacks are justified by this?

Do you think suicide bombings are OK because of the US caused deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Simple Question Craig Fry.

I go away for a day
and this is what I come back to??

Now you're scaring my wife dude, please don't come after me, like the psycho you sound like.

The wars in the ME by the USA where self defense, in reaction to 9/11.
should I even respond???
Was Coz sleeping through the last decade, or did he forget to listen to the news??? maybe he just heard the Fox report, which misinforms instead of giving you the facts, so then it would be understandable that you would be 100% wrong.

Defense of what in reaction to 911?
They were just a bunch of terrorists, they weren't a country, there was no invasion to defend against. Most of them were dead after 911 was over anyway.

We then invaded 2 countries that had nothing to do with 911, if you ask them about it, they would say they have no idea what 911 is, they think they we invaded to conquer their country and occupy it, like we did. And we killed 100s of thousands of them for no reason what so ever, they were fighting for their lives. we were there on a lie about WMDs.

Bush didn't even bother with Osama bin Laden after 2003, but because we were the occupying evil, the wars were now being fought because they were shooting back at us, so we had to keep fighting.

Somewhere out there
Apr 28, 2013 - 07:20pm PT
Turns out I can be wrong too. If by wrong I mean posted a post to one thread that was meant for another… then yes… I was wrong...

This post, which magically ended up on the Politics/religion thread, was indeed meant for the whats wrong with republicons thread.

Hopefully none of you take me to be anything above human.

Here it is...

Apr 27, 2013 - 01:38pm PT

Or are you just stupid and fail to comprehend economics as it relates to gov't subsidy?

It takes a very unique perspective to ask for a complete and thorough review of the finances of a company that may have made some money from one "contract"…..

While completely lacking the will for the same scrutiny of another "contract"

Here is a list of 100 contractors…


...will you take some time and look into any of these?

I understand you have a bias to the right…. but after looking into the dubious companies on this list ask yourself "How many of these billions of taxpayer dollars are really necessary? Then ask "How is this making government smaller?" like the idiot republicon/libertarian goofs constantly yammer on about… Seems to me all this "contracting" is costing much more than "government" has ever cost taxpayers.

So which is it going to be?

Smaller government and contracting at twice the cost?

Or government making mistakes on occasion with some contracts that don't live up to the hype of the contractors claims?

You're a fool if you think that any contractors exist outside the government. In other words they would not exist if it wasn't for government and each contractor relies heavily on government (they just can't admit that they suck on the teet of the big bad government like a 32 Billion back-alley whore)

They all have a problem with government in so far as: When they sell their goods/services to the government or the public, they'd like to do so with no oversight, no review, no regulation. I.E they want to be able to do as little as possible and get paid as much as possible (as their business charter states is their goal and seems to be the american way of business for the last 30 years). They want to be able to overcharge the government/taxpayer/client/public when they want without the accountability. They want to sell shoddy workmanship at top dollar (granted, most do not to this extent or extreme, but if you think that cutting corners is never done.. you are a bigger fool than I)

Here are just the first 3 examples of contractor waste by your favored corporate puppet masters…

No. 1 Ranked Government contractor in 2010 was Lockheed Martin Corporation. Here is what they do - Lockheed Martin has agreed to pay $37.9 million to settle charges that it inflated costs on several Air Force contracts, the Justice Department announced today. (this was in 2003 and I'm sure they've really cleaned up their act)

No. 2 Ranked Gorernment contractor in 2010 was The Boeing Company. Here is what they do - Leaked Audit: Boeing Overcharged Army Up to 177,000 Percent on Helicopter Spare Parts - $644.75 for a small gear smaller than a dime that sells for $12.51: more than a 5,100 percent increase in price. $1,678.61 for another tiny part, also smaller than a dime, that could have been bought within DoD for $7.71: a 21,000 percent increase. $71.01 for a straight, thin metal pin that DoD had on hand, unused by the tens of thousands, for 4 cents: an increase of over 177,000 percent. (This was in 2011 andy there is no reason to believe that they have not completely turned around they're entire philosophy by now, right)

No. 3 Ranked Government contractor in 2010 was Northrop Grumman Corporation. Here is what they do - In 2000 Northrop Grumman paid $1.4 million to settle a whistleblower case alleging that the company overcharged the Air Force for B-2 bomber instruction and repair manuals. In a case inherited through the acquisition of TRW, Northrop Grumman agreed in 2003 to pay $111 million to settle claims that TRW overcharged the Pentagon for work on several space electronics programs in the early 1990s. Also in 2003, Northrop Grumman agreed to pay a total of $80 million to settle two False Claims Act cases, one involving work by Newport News Shipbuilding before Northrop acquired it in 2001 and the other involving the delivery of allegedly defective aerial target drones.
In 2004, Northrop settled for $1.8 million the remaining individual whistleblower case from the late 1980s involving cruise missiles. The following year it paid $62 million to settle the remaining claims relating to overcharging on the B-2 bomber program. (as reported in 2010… and they have really changed by now…. Would you be willing to bet on it?)

….do I need to show more, because there are as many claims and settlements as there are general contractors….

BTW - This took about 6 minutes of my time to find….

What? No takers?

Seems like an easy case to make?

Less government right? More business… right?

Apr 30, 2013 - 08:42pm PT

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
May 1, 2013 - 04:14am PT
hmmmm...wonder why barry hasn't blamed bush for this...yet:


Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
Topic Author's Reply - May 1, 2013 - 07:36pm PT
I was going to post this on the why so much hate thread, thread, but I decided it would be better here, to not upset the PC conservatives as much..

Not just hate threads, but hate directed at threads

I try to have a little fun and have a BlueRig Tribute thread, and showcase his quotes, like Werner, and all hell breaks loose, and for some reason, the panties got so bunched that even my fellow Doctor, Dr. Sprock was flaming so hard that he almost blew a gasket.

I guess no one read the quotes, It was all in fun and laughs.
But no, it devolved into a gang pile of BS slander and misdirected hate.
I didn't even say anything bad about Blew, nor did he say anything bad to me that I would get butt hurt about.

I went to bed early after starting the thread, and was going to delete it, but thought it would be fun to see what slander I could troll up. I awake the next morning, and I see the Dr. Sprock thread, and I go Yea, I Dr. F tribute thread!!!,
and as I am typing onto it, to take sprock down for not reading the blurig tribute, the thread gets deleted!!!, I go to check my bluerig thread,and it gets deleted the next minute.
Well I guess the admin was alerted, I can guess the crybaby that made the call.

But what gets me, that for some reason these morons think that I can't take it, What could be further from the truth, the reason the Dr. F threads hang around is Because I can Take Anything, I don't give a crap what someone says about me, I have heard it all, I have no reputation or image that I have to maintain, None what so ever, I always come back for more, and will respond with a question. Why? Why not answer the question, let's move past the disagreement, and debate the topic, and I will have some words for if you can't do it better than at a fool's level.

So when someone says that I can't take it, it must be a projection of their problems, not mine.

I have more to discuss, but it comes down to this, you were all wrong about telling me Not to do what I have done, It actually turned things around for better!

BlueRig was right about one thing, too many people are a-holes, and some a-holes most desired goal is to out a-hole each other. sad, Is that the right direction?
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
Topic Author's Reply - May 1, 2013 - 08:04pm PT
Pathetic Republicans vote not for what's right or what their constituents want, they vote only to hurt Obama.

Pat Toomey: Background Checks Died Because GOP Didn't Want To Help Obama

Posted: 05/01/2013 10:58 am

Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) revealed that some members of his party opposed expanding background checks for gun sales recently because they didn't want to "be seen helping the president."

Two weeks ago, only three Republican senators voted for the bipartisan background checks amendment sponsored by Toomey and Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.), despite overwhelming popular support for such a measure.

"In the end it didn’t pass because we're so politicized. There were some on my side who did not want to be seen helping the president do something he wanted to get done, just because the president wanted to do it,” Toomey admitted on Tuesday in an interview with Digital First Media editors in the offices of the Times Herald newspaper in Norristown, Pa.

The Times Herald noted that in "subsequent comments," Toomey "tried to walk that remark part-way back by noting he meant to say Republicans across the nation in general, not just those in the Senate."

Last week, Toomey placed more of the blame on the president himself, telling the Morning Call, "I would suggest the administration brought this on themselves. I think the president ran his re-election campaign in a divisive way. He divided Americans. He was using resentment of some Americans toward others to generate support for himself." (WTF?, it was Obama's fault for being black once again?)

Manchin has argued, however, that the National Rifle Association's decision to score the vote was the main reason the compromise amendment on background checks failed. Without it, he believed, 70 senators -- well above the 60-vote threshold needed for passage -- would have supported it. (well now we know the real reason)

Opponents also pushed a significant amount of misinformation before the vote, including the myth that the legislation would lead to a federal gun registry. In fact, the bill would have made the creation of such a registry a felony carrying a prison sentence of up to 15 years. (so the lies had a part in making people fear the bill)

Toomey was pessimistic on Tuesday about the prospects of gun legislation moving forward, saying it's "not likely to happen any time soon."

"The bill is available right now and Sen. (Majority leader Harry) Reid could bring it up for a vote at any time, but we need five people to change their minds," he said.

Sens. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.), Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) and other lawmakers who voted against the background checks legislation have seen drops in their poll numbers since opposing the legislation.

Toomey, on the other hand, has seen his poll numbers rise.

May 1, 2013 - 08:49pm PT

"Pathetic Republicans vote not for what's right or what their constituents want, they vote only to hurt Obama."

Their party (and conservatism) is dying right before our eyes - the threat of the repub base defecting to the Tea Party controls everything congressional repubs do now.

The base can't kill gov't itself, so they'll settle for killing the party instead

Let the children have their way - they're going to adopt all our policies and try to claim they were always for them anyway, like they always do.

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
May 2, 2013 - 05:57am PT
damn, it's hard being right all the time:


in a nutshell:

"In 2008, Oregon expanded its Medicaid program, but because the state could not cover everybody, lawmakers opened up a lottery that randomly drew 30,000 names from a waiting list of almost 90,000 and allowed them to apply for the program. This created a unique opportunity for health researchers, ultimately allowing them to compare the health outcomes of 6,387 low-income adults who were able to enroll in the program with 5,842 who were not selected.

Contrary to liberal assumptions, researchers found that those who enrolled in Medicaid spent a lot more on medical care than those who weren’t able to enroll, but didn’t significantly improve their health outcomes."

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
May 2, 2013 - 06:49am PT
Your right, bookworm. Poor people don't deserve healthcare.

May 2, 2013 - 08:10am PT
"Contrary to liberal assumptions, researchers found that those who enrolled in Medicaid..."

So having MediCaid is supposed to automatically improve health?

What idiot makes that claim?

Oh, the author of the article. Figures.

Trad climber
Fresno CA
May 2, 2013 - 11:12am PT
o having MediCaid is supposed to automatically improve health?

What idiot makes that claim?

I don't know about idiots making that claim, but the claim forms an (often silent) assumption of arguments for more governmental aid in medical care.

That said, in my opinion, the study quoted misses the point, because the model liberals prefer -- single payer -- differs greatly from MediCaid.


Gold Canyon, AZ
May 2, 2013 - 02:14pm PT
That said, in my opinion, the study quoted misses the point, because the model liberals prefer -- single payer -- differs greatly from MediCaid.


Actually, that's the model the entire industrialized world prefers.

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