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Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
May 29, 2014 - 12:15pm PT
^^^^ What he said.

DMT
locker

climber
Antisocial Climber TCB...
May 29, 2014 - 12:15pm PT



Sketch...


I had just posted a DURR comment and then saw your response...(thus deleted the DURR comment)

Sincere THANK YOU!!! for taking the time to post it...

Seems we are actually in agreement on some stuff...



I guess you're not so DURR afterall...


LOL!!!...

;-)

Sketch

Trad climber
H-ville
May 29, 2014 - 12:21pm PT
locker

climber
Antisocial Climber TCB...

May 29, 2014 - 09:15am PT

I guess you're not so DURR afterall...

Only when I fail to embrace liberal dogma.

Some posters get so upset when I question the faith.

It is what it is.

Edit: Thanks for the kind words.
jammer

climber
May 29, 2014 - 12:24pm PT
Sketch wrote:

Nice work on the selective memory.

There numerous VA scandals during Bush's Presidency.

And people were practically willing to impeach bush over it? Wow, you have an inventive memory.

Also, any time you would like to clarify any position of yours whatsoever, feel free. Specifically your opinion on whether or not all politicians are the same "evildoers". Or feel free to keep attacking people and defending your actions with "look over there". Whatever.

In any case, I'm with Dave Kos on this one: DEFINITELY NOT VOTING FOR OBAMA IN 2016! Only a fool would do that.
locker

climber
Antisocial Climber TCB...
May 29, 2014 - 12:28pm PT

"Only when I fail to embrace liberal dogma."...


I ain't on that "LibDog" list!!!...


I may lean liberal...

but am considerably open minded and very capable of LISTENING without name calling, shutting the mind down or refusing to change...

In truth I am neither a Democrat nor Republican...(EDITED: Not a TeaBag MoFo or Libertarian, or ANY of the above... I am simply an AMERICAN)...



DURR!!!...

LOL!!!...
jammer

climber
May 29, 2014 - 12:29pm PT
Sketch wrote earlier, pre-emptively shoving my foot down my throat:

About our military, it should be for national defense and protecting our interests, abroad. This second part is a toughie. I'm not even going to get into it, except to say we've done a lousy job for the last 50+ years.

Invading Afghanistan should have been handled differently. Cooler heads did not prevail.

Invading Iraq was a mistake. It never should've happened. Bush gets full credit for this screwup. It's his legacy.

The cost of these two wars is obscene. Indefensible. But the genie is out of the bottle. So, we manage the situation in a practical manner, focusing on departure.

We should maintain a reasonable military and remember the cost and (lack of) benefit of these two wars. Hopefully, cooler heads will prevail in the future.

The military industrial complex needs to be dramatically reduced. Quit spending billions on the latest and greatest technology. Especially when the current technology is sufficient.

Agreed. I don't even think Afghanistan was necessary. I really don't think the people of Afghanistan had anything to do with 911. It would be like someone invading us for something some terrorist in our country did. It's ridiculous.
Sketch

Trad climber
H-ville
May 29, 2014 - 12:42pm PT
jammer

climber

May 29, 2014 - 09:24am PT
Sketch wrote:

And people were practically willing to impeach bush over it? Wow, you have an inventive memory.

Also, any time you would like to clarify any position of yours whatsoever, feel free. Specifically your opinion on whether or not all politicians are the same "evildoers". Or feel free to keep attacking people and defending your actions with "look over there". Whatever.

Impeachment? WTF? I never said anything about impeachment. You're just making crap up... again.

And what's with the "evildoers" nonsense?
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
May 29, 2014 - 12:42pm PT
I really don't think the people of Afghanistan had anything to do with 911. It would be like someone invading us for something some terrorist in our country did. It's ridiculous.

You'd have to be pretty stupid to think the people of Afghanistan had anything at all to do with 911, other than the fact a so-called mastermind of the plot was hiding out there.

It wasn't just ridiculous, it was a crime against humanity. The people of Afghanistan did nothing and could do nothing, to harm U.S. interests. It was just neocon rule the world thumb in Russia's eye bullsh#t, gussied up to take advantage of American isolationist PANIC over 911.

Master stroke by the dogs of war, you have to admit. And they did it AGAIN in Iraq. Twice, they 'pulled the wool' over shut eyes.

American voters? Asleep at the wheel. That's because we allow the military to engage in wars but do not require the entire nation to engage as well, aka WWII.

This is why it needs to be illegal to start a war sans formal declaration from the Congress. Allowing the President, any President, to engage in war according to her own desires, is what Queens and Kings of old were allowed to do.

We sprang or escaped from a Monarchy led Empire and we are headed right back to our roots.

DMT
Sketch

Trad climber
H-ville
May 29, 2014 - 12:57pm PT
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan

May 29, 2014 - 09:42am PT
You'd have to be pretty stupid to think the people of Afghanistan had anything at all to do with 911, other than the fact a so-called mastermind of the plot was hiding out there.

Except the Taliban leadership giving them safe haven.

It wasn't just that they were there. The Taliban was protecting them.

But like I said earlier, it should've been handled differently.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
May 29, 2014 - 01:08pm PT
Except the Taliban leadership giving them safe haven.

It wasn't just that they were there. The Taliban was protecting them.

Well guess what, the Taliban is still there. Like I said, you have to be pretty stupid to believe the people of Afghanistan were hiding bin Laden. Pretty damn stupid indeed.

DMT
jammer

climber
May 29, 2014 - 01:13pm PT
Agreed completely Dingus. Both wars were total B.S., and I was personally shocked at how many people didn't stand up to do everything in their power not to support it. It was very disappointing.

As for the scum that supposedly perpetrated 911 hiding out in Afghanistan with the aid of Afghanii leaders, and therefore this justified our actions in Afghanistan, I call B.S.

What, from that time, that GW's administration provided for us as "evidence" of "evil-doers" and "the axis of evil" (those were the actual terms used by Bush) actually held up to any kind of scrutiny? This includes anything reported in the media at that time, anything from presidential press conferences, everything. Given that, WTF would make me think the "evidence" linking Al Queda to 911 via Afghanistan was in any way legitimate? At most it was a half truth, and that's just not anywhere close to enough reason to do what we did over there, if go over there at all. And all this AFTER BUSH LOST THE ELECTION!
Sketch

Trad climber
H-ville
May 29, 2014 - 01:17pm PT
jammer

climber

May 29, 2014 - 10:13am PT

And all this AFTER BUSH LOST THE ELECTION!

Still bitter?
jammer

climber
May 29, 2014 - 01:27pm PT
^^^

Yes, and it is worth pointing out that Bush broke nearly every single campaign promise while in office, that the effect of his policies was to completely retard the growth of America both economically and socially thus pointing us in a completely different direction as a country, and he did all of this AFTER LOSING THE FARKING ELECTION!

It was as nice of an attempt at a perversion of democracy/freedom/liberty/etc. as we will ever see in our lifetimes. It's what spending billions to win an election looks like. The current GOP strategy is what it looks like when you spend billions or even trillions of dollars in an attempt to buy an entire country. Unfortunately, at the end of the day, people make up their own minds, and we have evolved to do so using FACTS!

Cry me a river GOP.
sandstone conglomerate

climber
sharon conglomerate central
May 29, 2014 - 01:51pm PT
Weren't the perpetrators of 9/11 Saudis and Egyptians? I don't recall an afghani hijacker. Riyadh and Cairo are still standing. Wasn't Osama a Saudi?
Where were the cruise missiles and ground troops for those countries? Oil couldn't have been a factor in that case at all.
Sketch

Trad climber
H-ville
May 29, 2014 - 01:52pm PT
The current GOP strategy is what it looks like when you spend billions or even trillions of dollars in an attempt to buy an entire country. Unfortunately, at the end of the day, people make up their own minds, and we have evolved to do so using FACTS!

To hear you tell it, McCain and Romney dramatically outspent Obama.

Too funny!

Obama spent twice as much as McCain, in 2008.
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
May 29, 2014 - 03:00pm PT
This crap about the Taliban protecting OBL- buschco gave them what, two weeks, to turn him over, OR ELSE, and when they didn't buschco threw the full weight of our military at getting him (supposedly) for years to no avail.

It's like the Mexican government telling the US government that if they don't turn over a drug cartel jefe who's hiding out somewhere in the country that the Mexican military is going to invade America and waste anybody or anything that stands in their way.

Absurd?

Yes

Not because it could never happen here

Because it's absurd it happened in Afghanistan, and even more absurd a large portion of (mostly republicon) Americans supported it.
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
May 29, 2014 - 03:04pm PT
Obama outspent McCain because donors knew bush fuked up so bad that he ruined the republicon party's hopes for the presidency.

Hopefully for a long time
Sketch

Trad climber
H-ville
May 29, 2014 - 03:48pm PT
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands

May 29, 2014 - 12:01pm PT

yes, that is the way campaigns work

people give more money to the candidate they want in office

and this is somehow shocking news to you?

No.

Not the point... obviously.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
May 29, 2014 - 03:50pm PT
The GOP would have had more to spend in 2008 if they had had the balls to nominate something other than a sacrificial ram and his dog spot.

DMT
Dr. F.

Trad climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - May 29, 2014 - 03:56pm PT
Not all the Campaign money spent by the Republicans goes directly to the candidate for President, so you can't compare the 2
(do we have to explain everything to Sketch?, a typical misinformed dupe)


The Republicans Overall Spend Way More Money, and almost every dollar spent is used in evil smear and take down tactics
The Koch Brothers alone almost spent as much as a Obama spent in 2012

I'm not sure if a single cent is spent on telling us what the Republicans will do for us,
They won't tell us that, because it's all bad for the middle class
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