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jghedge

climber
Apr 12, 2013 - 09:42pm PT

Democratic societies will always rebel against, and defeat, conservatism

And the more resistance conservatives offer to this inevitable trend, the quicker it occurs


And, just as inevitably, once they're defeated, they try to claim they supported the thing they opposed all along


The same pattern, over and over again...so predictable, and so futile.
Nohea

Trad climber
Living Outside the Statist Quo
Apr 12, 2013 - 10:47pm PT
Who wants to have some Fun?!!

Well me obviously,


me “The One” who has proven pecker checker f
wrong



"The One” who does NOT get angry, wish anyone harm, nor ask anything of you but to keep your laws out of my life. When I dip my toe in this cesspool of a thread I do so with caution, but I get entertained as most of what I say passes right over the heads of the Party members.
In News the President, who when he speaks puts party members in awe, its called the cult of the Presidency.


First up this quote
Democratic societies will always rebel against, and defeat, conservatism And the more resistance conservatives offer to this inevitable trend, the quicker it occurs

Yes the majority once they figure that they have access to other people’s money will surely screw over the minority.

#2
13) $250,000 is “middle-class income,” and families earning that much aren’t wealthy at all.

When Obama proposed raising taxes on all households with a yearly income of more than $250,000, anti-tax conservatives were outraged. Fox News contributor Charles Payne said, on an episode of America Live, said: Quote redacted to save space

Ahhh. Punished. Unfortunately, the Census Bureau, Tax Policy Center and fact-checkers disagree; $250,000 annually represents the top two percent of Americans, which is hardly middle class. Median income is approximately one-fifth of that amount.”

Woo Hoo, think I'm gonna change my login to "a 2%er for a few years of my life"

Gentlemen your leader uses millionaire and those making $250K plus in the same sentence and that is

wrong


most anyone that reads this can make 250K in a year and much more (think 12-16 hr days, 7 days/week/365 days/year), then you will know what it’s like to pay the Leviathan with your hardest work. (a disgusting feeling)


What say you about the Leaders $789K income and pays only $112K? Did he get excused from the AMT? “Oh the Benevolent Leader donated money” yea so did I, and I call the AMT a Mack Truck. But he got away with it I didn’t, I wish him well.

Here’s my real issue with the High One

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324050304578412932073225110.html?mod=WSJ_hp_mostpop_read

Don’t have a WSJ access, email me nah better do your own research (its just an opinion piece),

El Presidente says we can only have something like $3.4 mil in our 401K’s or IRA’s. Gang, that aint that much for 30-40 years of retirement, yes its comfy, but even the social security dept tells you they are not a main source of income and only supplemental.

can you say Argentina?

And finally
Did anyone notice….not likely on this thread? Housing prices have been up….just like they were in 2006 so what does our Leader do?


http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/obama-administration-pushes-banks-to-make-home-loans-to-people-with-weaker-credit/2013/04/02/a8b4370c-9aef-11e2-a941-a19bce7af755_story_1.html

“Obama administration pushes banks to make home loans to people with weaker credit”

I claim no crystal ball but I just post this today to be used at a later time, cause this just flew right over your head Party member.

I know Freedom works, you believe taking and having the Leviathan “give” is the answer. I ask nothing from you, you demand part of my effort always. This is such an easy fight but you shout louder, congratulations.

This is so easy....Here’s me fighting the head nurse f (figuratively people)




I post this at a risk of being called a dedicated committed follower of Sophia Stewart. I’ll take that chance.

Lets have a great weekend gang! A Hui Ho!
jghedge

climber
Apr 12, 2013 - 11:32pm PT
"Yes the majority once they figure that they have access to other people’s money will surely screw over the minority."

Hahahaha - you're describing how the 2% got to be the 2% in the first place - just replace "other people's money" with "capital", and "minority" with "Minorities".

Always entertaining to listen to white guys rail against inequality - as if they have the faintest clue what they're talking about - maybe they read about it in a book or something
Nohea

Trad climber
Living Outside the Statist Quo
Apr 12, 2013 - 11:41pm PT
How have I been a 2% er? let me repeat for possible understanding

most anyone that reads this can make 250K in a year and much more (think 12-16 hr days, 7 days/week/365 days/year), then you will know what it’s like to pay the Leviathan with your hardest work. (a disgusting feeling)


Always entertaining to listen to white guys rail against inequality
Pathetic.




jghedge

climber
Apr 13, 2013 - 12:05am PT
"most anyone that reads this can make 250K in a year and much more (think 12-16 hr days, 7 days/week/365 days/year)"

I'll tell that to the guys who were cutting my lawn on New Years Day

I assume by "most anyone that reads this" you mean "most anyone not discriminated against".

Or do you just not believe that that happens, or that you don't benefit from it?
Nohea

Trad climber
Living Outside the Statist Quo
Apr 13, 2013 - 12:41am PT
I assume by "most anyone that reads this" you mean "most anyone not discriminated against".


Yes there are asses out there,

Hello I"m 2013, please join me





Seriously dood,
I'll tell that to the guys who were cutting my lawn on New Years Day

Edit: I won't even visit a biz on a holiday, Holmes here makes his lawn be cut on NYD? And I'm crazy?
Degaine

climber
Apr 13, 2013 - 03:20am PT
nohea wrote:
most anyone that reads this can make 250K in a year and much more (think 12-16 hr days, 7 days/week/365 days/year), then you will know what it’s like to pay the Leviathan with your hardest work. (a disgusting feeling)

Ah,yes the hard work myth. I know people who make ten times that and who work a 40hr week, and I've met plenty of minimum wage workers pulling two jobs seven days per week who can't make ends meet.

Do you really think the CEO of Goldman's Sachs works harder than an ER doc at a trauma 1 center in a major city? Do you think that the exponentially increasing gap between CEO pay in major corporations and the average (even middle management pay) has to do with working more hours?

(edit to add: it also has to do with value-add, supply/demand, economies of scale, etc. Do you really think that actors/actresses in Hollywood work exponentially harder than strawberry pickers or the above-mentioned ER docs?)

nohea wrote:
El Presidente says we can only have something like $3.4 mil in our 401K’s or IRA’s ...“Obama administration pushes banks to make home loans to people with weaker credit”...

With regard to your comments on Obama, are you really that binary? Does being against most of what you have to write automatically equal blind obedience and agreement with Obama?

Funny thing is that since Jan 2009, Obama's been governing from a center-right position, and from a policy standpoint is simply an intelligent version of GWBush. You and everyone on the right should be ecstatic!

GWBush is by far the worst US president in modern history (and I'm too far removed from 19th century presidents to really judge if he is the worst), and even though Obama is far better than GWB, he's below average at best (to spell it out for you, not like Obama does not mean that one agrees with right-leaning/Republican policies and candidates, and disagreeing with right-leaning/Republican policies and candidates does not mean that one agrees with 100% or anything that Obama has enacted).
Ricky

climber
Sometimes LA
Apr 13, 2013 - 06:54am PT

Of all the posts here, and I'm including TGT's and Ron's,
Nohea's are the most asinine.
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 13, 2013 - 08:05am PT
There is nothing wrong with being rich, or making over $250,000

if you are in the top 2% with $250,000, then you can call it rich or not, who cares what you call it, it's way higher than median $50,000.

The only issue is that you will have to now pay 4% more in taxes for anything above $250,000.
so if you make $250,001, then you will pay 4 cents more in taxes, Oh the horror!!

That is such a small raise, yet people think "it's the end of the world, they might as well give it up, since the Governement is just punishing the makers", what a bunch whiny pussy brainwashed fools.

The right wing media hypes it up, and the real facts behind the issue get buried by BS talking points

Romney was only paying 14%
Is that right?, Hell NO

I just heard that there is more America Capital offshored than there is in the private sector, and that is just Wrong

We complain that we are broke, then just ignore the reasons why,
then instead make up reasons for political purposes "We are Spending Too Much!"
Wrong

Here is the real reason we are broke:
Corporate Loopholes, loopholes for the rich, offshoring, Republican polices and low tax rates for the rich.

Or in other words, We could be swimming in money, but the Republicans spend all the other peoples money.
But protect their own so they can bank it away so it helps no one.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Apr 13, 2013 - 08:15am PT
So funny that the republicans and so-called libertarians want Obama to lower spending, (which he has) cut the deficit (which he has) and lower our debt, which none of the republicans presidents have done in the last 50 years...f*#king hypocrites to the core.

In fact the republican policies are the cause of the current debt problem but they don't even have the balls to say so.

Chickenhawks in war and debt.


Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 13, 2013 - 08:17am PT
Bob, we have missed you around here
pop in more often please
Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Apr 13, 2013 - 08:51am PT
I know it's convenient for those of you who are ideologues to lump people you disagree with together with groups you disagree with and even despise. But many people are more complex in their politics than the simple labels of democrat, republican, or libertarian. If you are buying into the rhetoric of any of those groups, in my opinion you are allowing yourself to be duped.

For example I am, for the most part, a fiscal conservative. That means keeping finances in order, including the government's. Borrowing money to fund a pre-emptive and fraudulently justified war, as Bush 2 did, is hardly fiscally conservative. Nor is borrowing money to fund tax cuts.

As well, one can be fiscally conservative and socially progressive. The two ideas are not mutually exclusive. For example, one can be fiscally conservative and be in favor of a single payer health care system. It's obvious that we spend a much higher percentage of our GDP on health care than countries with single payer systems and even at that very high rate we don't insure many of our people. For fiscal reasons alone the country should pursue a single payer system.

It's good online sport I guess to skewer others, but in doing so no one is learning anything, and certainly no one here is changing their position because of the name calling and derision.

jghedge

climber
Apr 13, 2013 - 08:57am PT
" Holmes here makes his lawn be cut on NYD? And I'm crazy?"

I'm not the one who hires them or pays them - the landlord does.

If they could afford to take days off, I'm sure they would - don't be an ass.

And no, they won't be pulling in a quarter-mil anytime soon.

locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Apr 13, 2013 - 12:08pm PT



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Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Apr 13, 2013 - 01:44pm PT


Why I find it so easy to vote for a democat/indipendant rather than a republitard…. They never have the will or the ability to ask the questions that need to be asked.

They just don't think about "the good of the people" first in their duties….


Republitards fail at every level of government, possibly due to their interest in seeing government collapse or getting rid of government.





It amazes me that none of this is even on the radar of any republitard? They'd never even consider simply asking these questions, let alone listen to the answers and take action in response….
Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Apr 13, 2013 - 02:26pm PT
It's easy to say "oh it's the repulitards" once again, but the big problem in banking is that it was deregulated in 1999 with the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act. 90 of 100 senators voted in favor of this act, including all but seven democrats. 362 congressman voted for it, including 155 democrats. Democratic President Bill Clinton signed it on November 9th, 1999.

Same sh#t with the Iraq War. Democrats, along with republicans, voted overwhelmingly in favor of authorizing the war.

If you think one party is the problem and the other party is the solution, you miss the reality that the repubs play bad cop while the dems play good cop which distracts most from the fact that our politicians, of both parties, are always enriching themselves and their friends, and advancing the pet projects that help them get re-elected, so they can enrich themselves and their friends even more.

All the while most of the population is watching either MSNBC or Fox News and whining about the other party being the problem.

Wake the f*#k up.

jghedge

climber
Apr 13, 2013 - 02:49pm PT
"Same sh#t with the Iraq War. Democrats, along with republicans, voted overwhelmingly in favor of authorizing the war."

They voted to give Bush the power to go to war, because he wanted congressional approval to intimidate Saddam with. Nobody in their right mind thought Bush would be so stupid as to actually invade Baghdad. Neither did anyone at that time realize how utterly incompetent the Bush admin was. He couldn't coordinate an effective response to a hurricane in his own country, let alone manage an invasion and occupation of a hostile country.

We had an unprecedented f*#k-up of a president who made the worst foreign policy mistake in US history, did nothing during a natural disaster that caused the largest exodus of US citizens since the Civil War, and whose policies left us literally within hours of world-wide economic collapse.

The silver lining to all of the above is, of course, that he accelerated the demise of the repub party, and ensured that there will never be another repub president. So for that reason, maybe history will judge that Bush actually did more good than harm.
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Apr 13, 2013 - 02:51pm PT

"We had an unprecedented f*#k-up of a president who made the worst foreign policy mistake in US history did nothing during a natural disaster that caused the largest exodus of US citizens since the Civil War, and whose policies left us literally within hours of world-wide economic collapse."...



and as odd as it may seem, people still defend that idiot...
Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Apr 13, 2013 - 03:19pm PT
They voted to give Bush the power to go to war, because he wanted congressional approval to intimidate Saddam with. Nobody in their right mind thought Bush would be so stupid as to actually invade Baghdad.

Nobody in their right mind would be so stupid as to give Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield, and Wolfowitz the authorization to go to war without knowing they will actually take us to war. The "authorization" was just a clever and cowardly way for politicians of both parties to vote for the war without actually voting for the war.

Yet some still raise the "authorization" defense, just like at the opposite end of the political spectrum, some still defend Bush. Both defenses are equally ridiculous. It's little wonder politicians can pull the wool over our eyes pretty much any time they want.
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Apr 13, 2013 - 03:34pm PT
Plus dik and dub along with their neocon puppets made an all out effort to convince the 9/11 traumatized American public that Sadaam would actually attack the US with "WMD". And people actually did believe them because they had faith in their honesty and leadership, like they have faith in Jesus, even though it was all a calculated pack of lies.



Democratic lawmakers were put in a situation where not showing support for Sadaam's removal was seen as liberal lack of spine. That he didn't have WMD could not be proven, but that he did could only be proven by invasion. A clever and highly unethical strategy to create a war that would satisfy a few's lust for power, and would enrich select corporations and contractors, but devastate everything else involved, including the US economy.


The most despicable republicon plot, ever, I'd say
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