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bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
May 2, 2013 - 08:57am PT
damn, it's hard being right all the time:

http://washingtonexaminer.com/landmark-study-shatters-liberal-health-care-claims/article/2528671?utm_source=Washington%20Examiner:%20Opinion%20Digest%20-%2005/02/2013&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Washington%20Examiner:%20Opinion%20Digest

in a nutshell:

"In 2008, Oregon expanded its Medicaid program, but because the state could not cover everybody, lawmakers opened up a lottery that randomly drew 30,000 names from a waiting list of almost 90,000 and allowed them to apply for the program. This created a unique opportunity for health researchers, ultimately allowing them to compare the health outcomes of 6,387 low-income adults who were able to enroll in the program with 5,842 who were not selected.

Contrary to liberal assumptions, researchers found that those who enrolled in Medicaid spent a lot more on medical care than those who werenít able to enroll, but didnít significantly improve their health outcomes."
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
May 2, 2013 - 09:49am PT
Your right, bookworm. Poor people don't deserve healthcare.
jghedge

climber
May 2, 2013 - 11:10am PT
"Contrary to liberal assumptions, researchers found that those who enrolled in Medicaid..."


So having MediCaid is supposed to automatically improve health?

What idiot makes that claim?

Oh, the author of the article. Figures.
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
May 2, 2013 - 02:12pm PT
o having MediCaid is supposed to automatically improve health?

What idiot makes that claim?

I don't know about idiots making that claim, but the claim forms an (often silent) assumption of arguments for more governmental aid in medical care.

That said, in my opinion, the study quoted misses the point, because the model liberals prefer -- single payer -- differs greatly from MediCaid.

John
Curt

climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
May 2, 2013 - 05:14pm PT
That said, in my opinion, the study quoted misses the point, because the model liberals prefer -- single payer -- differs greatly from MediCaid.

John

Actually, that's the model the entire industrialized world prefers.

Curt
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
May 2, 2013 - 09:59pm PT
That newspaper article quotes the conclusion, but not the results, which were:

We found no significant effect of Medicaid coverage on the prevalence or diagnosis of hypertension or high cholesterol levels or on the use of medication for these conditions. Medicaid coverage significantly increased the probability of a diagnosis of diabetes and the use of diabetes medication, but we observed no significant effect on average glycated hemoglobin levels or on the percentage of participants with levels of 6.5% or higher. Medicaid coverage decreased the probability of a positive screening for depression (−9.15 percentage points; 95% confidence interval, −16.70 to −1.60; P=0.02), increased the use of many preventive services, and nearly eliminated catastrophic out-of-pocket medical expenditures.

The claim of "no significant health benefits" was based on ONE SINGLE MEASURE OF ONE SINGLE DISEASE, a disease which would be irrelevant to the health of most in the study, totally undermining the "statistical significance" of the findings.

The bolded section is in my opinion the single most important reason for universal health insurance.

I'm not sure who's the bigger fool, you for believing it, or me for trying to point out how wrong you are?

TE

Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - May 2, 2013 - 10:06pm PT
Classic!!

Colbert Destroys NRA, Right-Wing Radio Hosts Over Background Checks (VIDEO)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/02/colbert-destroys-nra-right-wing-radio_n_3201618.html?utm_hp_ref=politics&ir=Politics
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
May 2, 2013 - 10:20pm PT
rSin

climber
calif
May 2, 2013 - 10:59pm PT
can you imagine if we made them nail down a definition of national security or terrorism?!?!!?

they wouldnt have a leader left to reference...
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
May 2, 2013 - 11:09pm PT
Driving thru Minden today on 395 and noticed an Impeach Obama booth next to a busy stretch of hi-way where no one could stop and look...I wanted to stop to see what latest conspiracy theories were circulating but there was no where to park...Another failed republican plan in action...
Mimi

climber
May 3, 2013 - 12:26am PT
Pathetic Republicans vote not for what's right or what their constituents want, they vote only to hurt Obama. Dr. F.

Knot to quote Locker but some WUD say this is a GUD thing. The hypocrisy and double standard that you people uphold to support this President is astounding. Everything going on right now is in preparation for the 2014 elections. We shall see how that turns out. The Chicago mob persona emanating from the WH is disgusting.
jghedge

climber
May 3, 2013 - 12:33am PT

http://washingtonexaminer.com/landmark-study-shatters-liberal-health-care-claims/article/2528671?utm_source=Washington%20Examiner:%20Opinion%20Digest%20-%2005/02/2013&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Washington%20Examiner:%20Opinion%20Digest

"Medicaid coverage decreased the probability of a positive screening for depression (−9.15 percentage points; 95% confidence interval, −16.70 to −1.60; P=0.02), increased the use of many preventive services, and nearly eliminated catastrophic out-of-pocket medical expenditures."

Follows the dominant trend on this thread of wingnuts posting a link to an article that they think backs up their ideology, and the article, in fact, refutes it.

Which they then blithely ignore, and move on to the next topic they're totally wrong about.


It's their pathology.


rSin

climber
calif
May 3, 2013 - 12:46am PT
freedom never looked so good...
Credit: rSin
WBraun

climber
May 3, 2013 - 01:04am PT
The Chicago mob persona emanating from the WH is disgusting.


Obama IS from Chicago before he became the so called president.

So called President means.

I have no clue who really is behind him.

He made a statement a while ago where he said as a human being I do it one way but as a Political person I have to do it another way.

There is a saying "Never trust a Politician"

Thus I do not trust him ......
jghedge

climber
May 3, 2013 - 10:09am PT
Obama is a loser, no president has ever been re-elected with 8% unemployment, he is a one-termer and I am always right about elections.


The Completely Wrong One.
Mimi

climber
May 3, 2013 - 12:10pm PT
Well put, Werner. It's unfortunate our system has become so messed up.
jghedge

climber
May 3, 2013 - 05:54pm PT

Some of the best, it not actually The Best, economic news of Obama's presidency came out today, with the stock market in overdrive and private sector job growth revised to average 200,000 a month over the last 6 months

And as we all know, those numbers would be much better if repubs weren't blocking Obama at every turn.


Bottom line?



Repubs Have Failed.




Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
May 3, 2013 - 07:27pm PT
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - May 3, 2013 - 07:37pm PT
What did Werner say?

what do the words "Chicago politics" mean?
Pure BS talking points
Obama isn't involved in Chicago Politics,nor anything else you right wingers delusionally say about Obama

The Right Winger Media is insane now.
Let's talk about that!
It's embarrassing that they can lie, misinform, take things out of context, mislead, demonize, promote fear and hate: and use propaganda like it is the SOP.

Has Evil come to America? I will have to say yes.
jghedge

climber
May 4, 2013 - 01:16am PT

Hahahaha

Awwwwfully quiet around here

The wingnuts are GAGGING on the economic news today


Why is it that good economic news is DISASTER for the repub party?


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