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Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 11, 2013 - 12:03pm PT
Singer Morrissey's Scathing Letter to the Public About Margaret Thatcher: "A Terror Without an Atom of Humanity"

Thatcher is remembered as The Iron Lady only because she possessed completely negative traits such as persistent stubbornness and a determined refusal to listen to others.

Every move she made was charged by negativity; she destroyed the British manufacturing industry, she hated the miners, she hated the arts, she hated the Irish Freedom Fighters and allowed them to die, she hated the English poor and did nothing at all to help them, she hated Greenpeace and environmental protectionists, she was the only European political leader who opposed a ban on the ivory trade, she had no wit and no warmth and even her own cabinet booted her out. She gave the order to blow up The Belgrano even though it was outside of the Malvinas Exclusion Zone—and was sailing AWAY from the islands! When the young Argentinean boys aboard The Belgrano had suffered a most appalling and unjust death, Thatcher gave the thumbs-up sign for the British press.

Iron? No. Barbaric? Yes. She hated feminists even though it was largely due to the progression of the women's movement that the British people allowed themselves to accept that a prime minister could actually be female. But because of Thatcher, there will never again be another woman in power in British politics, and rather than opening that particular door for other women, she closed it

Thatcher will only be fondly remembered by sentimentalists who did not suffer under her leadership, but the majority of British working people have forgotten her already, and the people of Argentina will be celebrating her death. As a matter of recorded fact, Thatcher was a terror without an atom of humanity.


In other words, she was just like Reagan,
worshipped like an idol by the idiot right wingers who have forgotten all the harm she caused
and just like every Republican, Wrong about everything

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 12, 2013 - 06:20am PT

We will soon run out of other peoples money.
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 12, 2013 - 08:11am PT
You mean tax money?

why will we ever run out TGT?

We won't, it's just a stupid talking point designed to make idiots think that we are running the Gov. by stealing from other people.

Maybe if we raised taxes to the level of Reagan, we won't increase the debt as fast, right?
Maybe if those stupid Republicans that ran up the debt in the first place would allow us to raise taxers, and pay down the debt, we could aleve your fears of the impending doom

Kind of a catch 22, complain about the debt, all the while you are enacting policies that increase the debt, and then blame the President for What you did.

Despicable at every possible level.
But typical that your kind will never realise what your team is up, it's all about BS talking points, that's all you can understand.
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 12, 2013 - 08:43am PT
Fox Has Absolutely NO Journalistic Ethics, And Here’s A LONG List Of Their Lies (VIDEOS)
By Justin Acuff

It’s pretty well-known among those of us not sipping the Kool-Aid/tea combination that Fox News is an arm of the Republican Party, and with that goal in mind they willfully spread propaganda and misinformation every opportunity they get, provided it benefits conservative political ideology.

1) Snow disproves global warming.

Conservative publications, especially Fox News programs, often question the validity of human-influenced climate change by saying that snow means the world is obviously not warming very much. What they fail to realize is that we aren’t talking about rises in temperatures of tens of degrees, so it wouldn’t affect snowfall. In fact, superstorms that occur in winter are likely to drop huge amounts of snow, because as the polar ice caps melt and less water is trapped by arctic ice, the amount of water in the air will increase — and thus precipitation, such as snow or rain, will also increase. Here’s a video example of someone from Fox getting stupid on air:

2) Lunar volcanoes disprove climate change, too.

Yeah, it’s hard to figure out how they got that idea, so here’s Bill Nye stepping in to correct them:

3) The Bush tax cuts expiring is going to cause a huge increase in taxes for the middle class, and those dirty nasty liberals just want to steal your hard-earned money.

Yeah, not quite. In fact, the Bush tax cuts are thought to be a major contributor to the deficit. Fox News, though, is in the habit of showing extremely misleading numbers as seen in the following graphic:

Any high school math student can tell you that’s an extremely misleading way to present a graph.

4) Green jobs aren’t worth investing in.

Fox News has been running this myth again and again, from Solyndra to…well, just really Solyndra. Fox likes to use failed green-energy companies to “prove” that President Obama investing in green energy for the future is fiscally irresponsible. Unfortunately, the numbers just don’t pan out. First of all, as said time and time again, a certain percentage of companies always fail, and the government has invested in or given grants to companies that weren’t successful before, and will many times in the future. Fox is only upset because it is seen as a “leftist” goal — you know, sustainability. Second, as reported by Media Matters, the green energy industry added 150,000 jobs in 2011 and is seen as one of the fastest-growing industries in the country. Here’s a graph they provided on the matter:

5) Dr. Suess movies are just leftist propaganda.

The host of Lou Dobbs Tonight on the Fox Business Network, Lou Dobbs, said that The Lorax is leftist propaganda and, “The president’s liberal friends in Hollywood [are] targeting [a] younger demographic using animated movies to sell their agenda to children.” When speaking on The Lorax and another movie, The Secret World Of Arrietty, he described them as, “Two new films out this year, plainly with an agenda, plainly demonizing the so-called ’1 percent’ and espousing the virtue of green-energy policies, come what may.”

In reality, both movies have valuable lessons for children that have absolutely nothing to do with political ideology.

6) Rape victims are asking for it.

As part of the right’s war on women, Fox News has consistently had contributors and talk show hosts or guests patiently explain why it is a woman’s fault if she is raped. It may be your clothes, your attitude, or the fact that you’re a well-known slut, but whatever it is, it’s your fault.

If I need to explain to you why this is wrong, you’re a terrible person. It is not a woman’s fault when she is raped, and saying that it is contributes to America’s silent endorsement of rape culture. Not only that, but men are raped as well, and stats point to it being a male problem — although 10 percent of rapes have a male victim, 99 percent of rapes have a male perpetrator. Strangely, those two percentages together reflect the approximate incidence of homosexuality in males, showing that rapists don’t care what you’re wearing. Unless, of course, we start saying that men need to dress more modestly or they’re going to be raped.

7) Romney was going to win in a landslide.

You can work through this one on your own.

8) Healthcare reform is a government takeover of healthcare and is socialism.

Well, they’re still screaming that one loud and proud, even though it was declared PolitiFact’s (an independent and objective fact-checking arm of The Tampa Bay Times) 2010 “Lie Of The Year.” It simply isn’t true. A true government takeover of healthcare would result in a tax raise designed to cover the costs of everyone in America’s medical expenses, and we wouldn’t have to worry about paying for insurance. Instead, the Affordable Care Act is a government reform of healthcare regulations, designed to drive the price down and make insurance affordable.

9) The Affordable Care Act contains “death panels.”

NO. It doesn’t. It’s a conservative favorite, it seems, despite being completely untrue. Although, because Fox News very rarely issues corrections for false statements (all journalists are wrong sometimes, but journalistic integrity means acknowledging and apologizing), it’s unlikely that viewers know that yet. In fact, that one was PolitiFact’s 2009 “Lie Of The Year!” It looks like they’re trying to form a tradition over there at Fox.

10) There’s been more debt formed under Obama than every other president combined.

While the debt has certainly increased under Obama, and it’s debatable whose fault that is, there has not been more formed under Obama than all other presidents combined. In fact, the debt has increased about 40%, from $11 trillion to $15 trillion. We’re a nation founded on debt. Other conservatives from other networks have tried to claim the same thing, but it simply isn’t true.

11) You’re going to jail if you don’t buy health insurance once the Affordable Care Act takes effect.

Not only have they stated as such (PolitiFact counts four times during 2009 that the above lie was told on Fox News programs), but they’ve also lied about lying about it (see number 12). You aren’t going to jail, and never were.

12) Fox News never reported you’re going to jail if you don’t buy health insurance.

This one is specifically attributable to Bill O’Reilly, who rigorously defended the above accusation, saying “Fox News never reported that.” He tried to defend after-the-fact by saying they were talking about a specific time during the development of the bill, but fact-checking organizations and other news organizations aren’t buying it.

13) $250,000 is “middle-class income,” and families earning that much aren’t wealthy at all.

When Obama proposed raising taxes on all households with a yearly income of more than $250,000, anti-tax conservatives were outraged. Fox News contributor Charles Payne said, on an episode of America Live, said:

You know, realistically, I think the question is a lot of people resign themselves to the idea that taxes are going to go up. The real thing is how do you define rich. I think this is really the big sticking point, and this where I have a big problem because 250,000 certainly is not the real definition of rich and certainly that’s not where the average American family who gets to that point should be punished for all the work that they put in.

Ahhh. Punished. Unfortunately, the Census Bureau, Tax Policy Center and fact-checkers disagree; $250,000 annually represents the top two percent of Americans, which is hardly middle class. Median income is approximately one-fifth of that amount.

14) Tax cuts for the wealthy are good for everyone. They’re economic vitamins!

Not so much. In fact, historical evidence and math both point to the opposite; cutting taxes for the wealthy has been shown, by everyone from Paul Krugman to Stephen King, to do nothing for jobs or the economy. In truth, tax cuts of that nature are likely to increase wealth and income disparity and inequality among Americans, creating a definite sense of class warfare. That, combined with austerity policies failing across Europe and being used somewhat in the United States, is creating a sense of unhappiness and instigating calls for reform. Fox News viewers, however, won’t know that.

The basic reason is that tax cuts for the rich don’t promote spending, so they don’t put money back into the economy. Conversely, tax cuts for those with lower levels of income do promote spending. The difference? Lower-income families are more likely to be “strapped for cash,” meaning that spending is limited by income. Oftentimes with wealthier individuals or families, the same does not hold true, with spending being limited by a variety of other factors, not necessarily year-to-year income. Cutting their taxes simply allows them to put more (unnecessary) money away, basically removing it from the economy for a duration of time.

15) In the 1970s, global COOLING was the enemy of climate science.

Except no, that never happened. As reported by Media Matters:

REALITY: There Was No Consensus Among Climate Scientists On Global Cooling In The 1970s. A September 2008 article in the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, a peer-reviewed publication, investigated the “pervasive myth” that “there was a consensus among climate scientists of the 1970s that either global cooling or a full-fledged ice age was imminent.” The article found:

“A review of the climate science literature from 1965 to 1979 shows this myth to be false. The myth’s basis lies in a selective misreading of the texts both by some members of the media at the time and by some observers today. In fact, emphasis on greenhouse warming dominated the scientific literature even then.” [Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, September 2008]

In case that’s not enough lying by Fox, here’s an awesome compilation courtesy of Jon Stewart:

Fox News has no sense of journalistic integrity.


Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Apr 12, 2013 - 08:55am PT
a liberal dilemma: support amnesty for illegal aliens and reveal your hatred for african americans vs. protect african americans and reveal your hatred for illegal aliens


so much liberal hatred, so little time

Apr 12, 2013 - 09:17am PT
A Bookworm dilemma:

Say nothing and let others, based on your previous posts, think you an idiot, vs. keep posting and remove all doubt
The Warbler

the edge of America
Apr 12, 2013 - 10:59am PT
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 12, 2013 - 11:21am PT
a liberal dilemma: support amnesty for illegal aliens and reveal your hatred for african americans vs. protect african americans and reveal your hatred for illegal aliens

so much liberal hatred, so little time

I'm sorry, I can't think of any word to use in this instance other than MORON
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 12, 2013 - 05:35pm PT
Lust for Gold


Published: April 11, 2013
NY Times

News flash: Recent declines in the price of gold, which is off about 17 percent from its peak, show that this price can go down as well as up. You may consider this an obvious point, but, as an article in The Times on Thursday reports, it has come as a rude shock to many small gold investors, who imagined that they were buying the safest of all assets.

And thereby hangs a tale. One of the central facts about modern America is that everything is political; on the right, in particular, people choose their views about everything, from environmental science to gun safety, to suit their political prejudices. And the remarkable recent rise of “goldbuggism,” in the teeth of all the evidence, shows that this politicization can influence investments as well as voting.

What do I mean by goldbuggism? Not the notion that buying gold sometimes makes sense. Gold has been a very good investment since the early 2000s, and it’s probably not all bubble. One way to think about this is that gold is like a very long-term bond that’s protected from inflation; and actual long-term inflation-protected bonds have also seen big price increases, reflecting a general perception that there aren’t enough alternative good investments.

No, being a goldbug means asserting that gold offers unique security in troubled times; it also means asserting that all would be well if we abolished the Federal Reserve and returned to the good old gold standard, in which the value of the dollar was fixed in terms of gold and that was that. And both forms of goldbuggism soared after 2008.

In the wake of the financial crisis — and to a considerable extent even now — to watch business news on TV, especially on Fox, was to see a lot of talking heads touting gold, not to mention many, many ads from the likes of Goldline. Many Americans were convinced: A third of those polled by Gallup in 2011 declared that gold was the best long-term investment.

At the same time, calls for a return to the gold standard proliferated, and not just among marginal figures. Indeed, the 2012 Republican platform effectively demanded a return to gold, calling for a commission to “investigate possible ways to set a fixed value for the dollar” (which it took as self-evidently desirable), and making it clear that the preferred route involved a “metallic basis” for the currency.

So the financial crisis of 2008 brought a surge in gold fever (although that surge has abated a bit since 2011). But why?

After all, historically, gold has been anything but a safe investment. Sometimes it yields big gains, as it did in the late 1970s and again between 2001 and 2011. But that 1970s run-up was followed by an epic plunge, with the real value of gold falling by more than two-thirds.

Meanwhile, the modern world’s closest equivalent to the classical gold standard is the euro, which puts European countries back under more or less the same constraints they faced when gold ruled. It’s true that the European Central Bank can print money if it chooses to, but individual countries, like nations on the gold standard, can’t. And who would hold up these countries’ recent experience as an example of something we’d like to emulate?

So how can we rationalize the modern goldbug position? Basically, it depends on the claim that runaway inflation is just around the corner.

Why have so many people found this claim persuasive? John Maynard Keynes famously dismissed the gold standard as a “barbarous relic,” noting the absurdity of yoking the fortunes of a modern industrial society to the supply of a decorative metal. But he also acknowledged that “gold has become part of the apparatus of conservatism and is one of the matters which we cannot expect to see handled without prejudice.”

And so it remains to this day. Conservative-minded people tend to support a gold standard — and to buy gold — because they’re very easily persuaded that “fiat money,” money created on a discretionary basis in an attempt to stabilize the economy, is really just part of the larger plot to take away their hard-earned wealth and give it to you-know-who.

But the runaway inflation that was supposed to follow reckless money-printing — inflation that the usual suspects have been declaring imminent for four years and more — keeps not happening. For a while, rising gold prices helped create some credibility for the goldbugs even as their predictions about everything else proved wrong, but now gold as an investment has turned sour, too. So will we be seeing prominent goldbugs change their views, or at least lose a lot of their followers?

I wouldn’t bet on it. In modern America, as I suggested at the beginning, everything is political; and goldbuggism, which fits so perfectly with common political prejudices, will probably continue to flourish no matter how wrong it proves.

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 12, 2013 - 06:08pm PT
The village idiot is still at it!


Charges his bodyguards rent!

And his cheapskate Joe's charitable giving went from 1.5% to 1.87% last year.



Apr 12, 2013 - 06:21pm PT
"Charges his bodyguards rent!

And his cheapskate Joe's charitable giving went from 1.5% to 1.87% last year."

How old are you?

You sound like the little kids playing in my neighbor's front yard

Social climber
the Wastelands
Apr 12, 2013 - 06:29pm PT

you gotta just let go, TGT

no one but you and Skippy "cares" about any of the trivial and childish crap you try to dig up

your party put up the best candidates they could in McCain and Romney

but it did not matter at all, you lost

and you lost big, in modern day electoral landslides and by a whopping 5-7 million votes

deal with it, TGT, get professional help


Social climber
So Cal
Apr 12, 2013 - 07:47pm PT

Byden the fool

is your #2

that fits!

But the runaway inflation that was supposed to follow reckless money-printing — inflation that the usual suspects have been declaring imminent for four years and more — keeps not happening.



Inflation by a different mechanism.

Same result, your dollar buys less.


Apr 12, 2013 - 08:17pm PT
"Byden the fool

is your #2

that fits!"


Who's your #2?


Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 12, 2013 - 08:20pm PT
Credit: Dr. F.
TGT, don't forget to put your helmut on when you go for your walk tonight!
You might fall down and bump your head again, like last week.

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Apr 12, 2013 - 08:27pm PT
helmet..? tin-foil hat..!
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 12, 2013 - 08:31pm PT
Credit: Dr. F.
This guy on the left reminds me the most of the right wingers on ST
The Warbler

the edge of America
Apr 12, 2013 - 08:38pm PT
Have ya forgotten how Biden schooled your Conservative Boy Wonder, Paul Lyin' Ryan in the debates, TGT?


Apr 12, 2013 - 08:58pm PT

Democratic societies always become more liberal over multi-generational spans

And no Southern Strategy, and no amount of dumbing down politics to the pro wrestling level, will change that

Accepting that simple reality is the prerequisite for being a progressive

Being in denial of it is the prereq for being a conservative.

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Apr 12, 2013 - 09:18pm PT
"Will the highways on the Internet become more few?"— Bush, Concord, N.H., Jan. 29, 2000
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