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jghedge

climber
Apr 9, 2013 - 12:18am PT
"Loyalty is among the most powerful characteristics of the left wing authoritarian personality, which of course is the best way to describe the political left wing."

...yawn..


Not to mention not being too embarrassed to cite our sources
bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Apr 9, 2013 - 04:32am PT
liberal tolerance: sure, you're allowed to be catholic...as long as you don't actually believe any of that stuff

http://www.gwhatchet.com/2013/04/04/students-mobilize-to-remove-priest/


winston smith is dead
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Apr 9, 2013 - 05:43am PT
Your analysis of news stories is sure interesting, bookworm.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Apr 9, 2013 - 05:45am PT
What the hell happens in the meantime?

You could move to a civilized country where healthcare is not considered a profit center. Or let your senator and congressman it is time for America to join the 20th century.
bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Apr 9, 2013 - 06:34am PT
why does barry hate women so much?

http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/15/obama-white-house-paid-women-staffers-less-than-men-in-2012/


oh, maybe he's using the extra money to stop the "war on women"
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Apr 9, 2013 - 07:32am PT
Loyalty is among the most powerful characteristics of the left wing authoritarian personality,

Ksolem, what you point out is true but there is a practical important distinction. Compared to the right wing there are comparatively very few authoritarian personalities due to the simple fact that right wing ideology attracts authoritarians like flies to fresh turd. I'm not making this stuff up. It has been studied to death and is considered about as settled as climate warming science. Authoritarians can be found in left wing political spheres but there is actually some doubt and debate as to wether they are truly left wing as authoritarianism is essentially anathema to "liberal" ideals. No such doubt and debate exists about the relationship with the right wing.

I'm not pointing this out out of any allegiance on my part to left wing ideology as I am not a card carrying bible thumping lefty. True, if someone were to point a gun at my head and say "choose one" I would side with the lefties ( at least in most civil societies) but that has more to do with the inherent evils of right wing authoritarian ideals and imperatives than any saintly qualities on the left.

I posted my comment originally on the climate change thread as it offers a well recognized and authoritative explanation for right wing opposition to the consensus science. It also explains right wing opposition to consensus science in many other fields where it contradicts right wing ideals. This characteristic of the right wing is fact.

The fact that there is not a similar characteristic found on the left is because predominantly lefties / liberals require that policy is guided by our best understandings of reality as determined by scientific proof. This by default places reality and truth as a higher imperative than any ideology. The same cannot be said about the right wing as gargantuan mountains of evidence suggests..

Again, anyone willing to investigate will quite quickly find that the consensus expert opinion support this understanding.

So as our best understanding of the psychology that drives right wing politics proves, Republicans may not be wrong about everything but if you let them, they'll sure do their best to try.
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 9, 2013 - 10:04am PT
Ksolem,
clever, but it doesn't work that way, only the Right Wingers have the Authoritarian personality, and have loyalty to their group and leaders.

That's what makes us different, I can care less what any leader says, I have my own opinions that have been built up on steady foundation of reason, logic and truthful facts. They just happen to be more similar to other liberals and intellectuals.

The Right Wingers are swayed by any news fake outrage, BS propaganda, and big money interests, they are the Corrupt establishment hell bent on gaining and controlling power for themselves.


The original, from Bruce Kay's post
Loyalty is among the most powerful characteristics of the right wing authoritarian personality, which of course is the best way to describe the political right wing. Loyalty is first and foremost ascribed to ideology rather than to the physical group or individuals (loyalty is directed at individuals only so long as they represent the ideal, which if they fail at are immediately killed and eaten). This is the primary reason that right wingers are unswayed by reason or factual evidence. Their allegience lies in first priority with whatever mythological ideal they subscribe to ( libertarianism, fascism, various religious doctrines, etc) which requires by default that all conflicting values must be discarded or adapted to support the ideal. This characteristic can be found in numerous socio political situations, climate change policy just being one of many.

Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Apr 9, 2013 - 10:39am PT
only the Right Wingers have the Authoritarian personality, and have loyalty to their group and leaders.

As Spock would say, "Fascinating..." how your side can win an election and totally fail to observe the facts of that victory. You think that the right is in lockstep? All lined up behind some authoritarian leader? Candidate Romney was an authoritarian leader?? If all of the folks who oppose Obama had bothered to vote the result would have been different. The right is in disarray and the weakest fools are in the leadership positions. Of course, as we have seen in the past, things can change very quickly in the political arena. Gun control and Social Security have long been called "third rails" in American politics, and Obama has taken on both with zeal. This will be interesting.
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 9, 2013 - 10:41am PT
All the Obama voters were Voting against the Republican Authoritarian Leader.
That's not lock step, that's sanity.
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Apr 9, 2013 - 11:06am PT
The authoritarian leaders of the republicon party were lurking behind several layers of front men in the last election, unlike when dik and dub were brazenly out front. Repubs might be obstinate, but they managed to learn a lesson from the disastrous long term effects of the bush admin on their program. At least half of them are trying to change, even if its only skin deep. My guess is its too late.

Thanks to the internet, and Al Gore for inventing it, a majority of the public has seen the light where republicon policy and its track record is concerned. The MSM and its corporate rulers, calculatingly labeled by the right as the liberal media for years in order to shift the political center ever rightward, are losing their power by the day.

Only corruption in the form of voter fraud, internet censorship, relentless propaganda and the standard bribery, slander and libel has any chance of keeping the republicon party viable much longer. They do excel in those areas, so the game isn't quite over yet.

And the economy continues to improve, albeit slowly, under Obama - bad news for conservatives.

You should bail that sinking ship, Ksolem.
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Apr 9, 2013 - 11:21am PT
You should bail that sinking ship, Ksolem.

Haha. You think I am on someone's ship? I can swim pretty well...
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Apr 9, 2013 - 03:57pm PT
jghedge

climber
Apr 9, 2013 - 07:19pm PT
"If all of the folks who oppose Obama had bothered to vote the result would have been different."


Hahahahaha

Keep dreaming, buddy.


2012 was your last chance.







jghedge

climber
Apr 9, 2013 - 07:22pm PT
"why does barry hate women so much?"

http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/15/obama-white-house-paid-women-staffers-less-than-men-in-2012/


HAHAHAHAHA, The Daily Caller

Which paid prostitutes to falsely claim a NY dem politician solicited them


About as credible a source as the rest of the wingnut gibberish
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Apr 9, 2013 - 07:25pm PT
Ksolem...You can swim on your own...? Stop tooting your own horn...
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Apr 9, 2013 - 07:26pm PT
just ignore the bitter ignorant little dumb fuk


everyone else does


Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Apr 9, 2013 - 08:00pm PT
http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/im_a_republican_not_an_idiot_20130409/

I’m a Republican, Not an Idiot

Posted on Apr 9, 2013

Pioneering Lancaster, Calif., Mayor R. Rex Parris wants his city to generate more power from renewable energy than it consumes. In fact, he wants the dusty, desert town to be the solar power capital of the universe. And he’s a Republican.

“I may be a Republican. I’m not an idiot,” Parris tells The New York Times, when asked whether he thinks global warming is a threat. It’s not such a ridiculous question, when one considers the GOP’s long denial of climate change and its love affair with fossil fuels. This is no longer the party of Teddy Roosevelt, who loved the great outdoors and championed national parks, or Richard Nixon, another Californian and the president who created the Environmental Protection Agency.

Parris may use a harsh word to describe the majority view of his party, but he’s not far off. Science is overwhelming on the subject, and beyond that there is obvious wealth to be garnered from the emerging renewable energy industry. As the Times points out, Lancaster has an unemployment rate of 15.5 percent, more than double the national rate. Solar power is as much a jobs issue as it is an environmental one.

Although California is a very blue state, the interior has always been Republican country. As that party seeks ways to reinvent itself, it might look to its own past and a few characters from its present—people who are Republicans, but not idiots.


Actually… you still are an idiot along with the rest of your party….

Even with this guy on the republitard side… they still smell bad and don't deserve my vote.
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Apr 10, 2013 - 07:15am PT
Loyalty is among the most powerful characteristics of the left wing authoritarian personality, which of course is the best way to describe the political left wing.

Two words: Ronald Reagan

The guy is worshiped by the right. His legacy has become a mythology completely inconsistent with the facts - e.g. he raised taxes and massively increased the deficit and yet he regarded as a fiscal savior.

There's no politician on the left that has the loyal following that Reagan does.

Most on the far left don't even like Obama.

And then there's Limbaugh...

Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Apr 10, 2013 - 08:57am PT
The Reagan worship is a good example of the right's belief in ideological mythology. If it was ideological truth that held an interest to them they would have cast Reagun to the wolves by now...... but then all they would have left is Milton Friedman and Ayn Rand, and they are just a little too Icky by anyones standards.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Apr 10, 2013 - 09:34am PT
The Reagan worship is a good example of the right's belief in ideological mythology


what exactly is there is "worship" about Reagan anyway

the guy tripled the national debt

and he did it by SPENDING hugely

he also sided with South Africa's DeKlerk and his oppressive and racist Apartheid policy
while at the same time saying he opposed segregation


by the way, all he did was speak some words urging the Berlin wall to be torn down,
the disintegration of the Soviet Union was well under way and he had nothing to do with it


Like all Republicans, he had a "problem" with the truth, facts

"Facts are funny things"
Ronald Reagan

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