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Dr. F.

Trad climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - May 12, 2014 - 11:26am PT
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Dr. F.

Trad climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - May 12, 2014 - 11:30am PT
Crazy Climate Economics

MAY 11, 2014

Paul Krugman

Everywhere you look these days, you see Marxism on the rise. Well, O.K., maybe you don’t — but conservatives do. If you so much as mention income inequality, you’ll be denounced as the second coming of Joseph Stalin; Rick Santorum has declared that any use of the word “class” is “Marxism talk.” In the right’s eyes, sinister motives lurk everywhere — for example, George Will says the only reason progressives favor trains is their goal of “diminishing Americans’ individualism in order to make them more amenable to collectivism.”

So it goes without saying that Obamacare, based on ideas originally developed at the Heritage Foundation, is a Marxist scheme — why, requiring that people purchase insurance is practically the same as sending them to gulags.
And just wait until the Environmental Protection Agency announces rules intended to slow the pace of climate change.
Until now, the right’s climate craziness has mainly been focused on attacking the science. And it has been quite a spectacle: At this point almost all card-carrying conservatives endorse the view that climate change is a gigantic hoax, that thousands of research papers showing a warming planet — 97 percent of the literature — are the product of a vast international conspiracy. But as the Obama administration moves toward actually doing something based on that science, crazy climate economics will come into its own.

You can already get a taste of what’s coming in the dissenting opinions from a recent Supreme Court ruling on power-plant pollution. A majority of the justices agreed that the E.P.A. has the right to regulate smog from coal-fired power plants, which drifts across state lines. But Justice Scalia didn’t just dissent; he suggested that the E.P.A.’s proposed rule — which would tie the size of required smog reductions to cost — reflected the Marxist concept of “from each according to his ability.” Taking cost into consideration is Marxist? Who knew?

And you can just imagine what will happen when the E.P.A., buoyed by the smog ruling, moves on to regulation of greenhouse gas emissions.
What do I mean by crazy climate economics?

First, we’ll see any effort to limit pollution denounced as a tyrannical act. Pollution wasn’t always a deeply partisan issue: Economists in the George W. Bush administration wrote paeans to “market based” pollution controls, and in 2008 John McCain made proposals for cap-and-trade limits on greenhouse gases part of his presidential campaign. But when House Democrats actually passed a cap-and-trade bill in 2009, it was attacked as, you guessed it, Marxist. And these days Republicans come out in force to oppose even the most obviously needed regulations, like the plan to reduce the pollution that’s killing Chesapeake Bay.
Second, we’ll see claims that any effort to limit emissions will have what Senator Marco Rubio is already calling “a devastating impact on our economy.”

Why is this crazy? Normally, conservatives extol the magic of markets and the adaptability of the private sector, which is supposedly able to transcend with ease any constraints posed by, say, limited supplies of natural resources. But as soon as anyone proposes adding a few limits to reflect environmental issues — such as a cap on carbon emissions — those all-capable corporations supposedly lose any ability to cope with change.

Now, the rules the E.P.A. is likely to impose won’t give the private sector as much flexibility as it would have had in dealing with an economywide carbon cap or emissions tax. But Republicans have only themselves to blame: Their scorched-earth opposition to any kind of climate policy has left executive action by the White House as the only route forward.

Furthermore, it turns out that focusing climate policy on coal-fired power plants isn’t bad as a first step. Such plants aren’t the only source of greenhouse gas emissions, but they’re a large part of the problem — and the best estimates we have of the path forward suggest that reducing power-plant emissions will be a large part of any solution.
What about the argument that unilateral U.S. action won’t work, because China is the real problem? It’s true that we’re no longer No. 1 in greenhouse gases — but we’re still a strong No. 2. Furthermore, U.S. action on climate is a necessary first step toward a broader international agreement, which will surely include sanctions on countries that don’t participate.

So the coming firestorm over new power-plant regulations won’t be a genuine debate — just as there isn’t a genuine debate about climate science. Instead, the airwaves will be filled with conspiracy theories and wild claims about costs, all of which should be ignored. Climate policy may finally be getting somewhere; let’s not let crazy climate economics get in the way.
sandstone conglomerate

climber
sharon conglomerate central
May 12, 2014 - 11:31am PT
Benfukinghazi!
locker

Social climber
"Sh#t shack across from the city dump"
May 12, 2014 - 11:34am PT


Credit: locker
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bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
May 12, 2014 - 11:40am PT
i blame global warming, bush, and the vast right-wing conspiracy:


http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/05/10/melting-by-2035-hardly-new-study-shows-most-himalayan-glaciers-are-stable-and-in-a-steady-state/

philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
May 12, 2014 - 08:07pm PT
photo not found
Missing photo ID#357726
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
May 12, 2014 - 08:17pm PT
No i know why TGT has his racist tendancies....
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
May 12, 2014 - 08:19pm PT
photo not found
Missing photo ID#357728
crankster

Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
May 12, 2014 - 08:56pm PT
Credit: crankster
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
May 12, 2014 - 09:52pm PT
^^^ Americunt extraordinaire.
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
May 13, 2014 - 09:46am PT
I'm not a Democrat. I'm an anti-Republican.
http://theweek.com/article/index/261426/im-not-a-democrat-im-an-anti-republican
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
May 13, 2014 - 11:26am PT
I'm not a Democrat. I'm an anti-Republican.

That describes my political position perfectly too.
I don't particularly support Democratic party policy, except perhaps gun control regulations, but I viscerally oppose almost every aspect of the current Republican party platform.

TE
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
May 13, 2014 - 11:28am PT
^^^^^ +1
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
May 13, 2014 - 04:18pm PT
photo not found
Missing photo ID#357810

Things that make you say hmmmm. WTF is wrong with these people?
bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
May 13, 2014 - 04:46pm PT
more orwellian cheerleading for barrycare:


http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2014/05/13/312142207/employers-may-start-paying-you-to-buy-health-insurance?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=npr&utm_medium=social&utm_term=nprnews



the libs, of course, will love the fact that the employer contribution is TAXABLE while ignoring the increase in evuhl PROFITS for the employers
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
May 13, 2014 - 10:49pm PT
John McCain
“If they knew where they were, I certainly would send in U.S. troops to rescue them, in a New York minute I would, without permission of the host country,” McCain told The Daily Beast Tuesday. “I wouldn’t be waiting for some kind of permission from some guy named Goodluck Jonathan,” he added, referring to the president of Nigeria.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/05/13/mccain-send-u-s-special-forces-to-rescue-nigerian-girls.html
Which human rights atrocities around the world would he not send troops to fix? Which 200 children would he not save?
His mouth is far ahead of his brain.
Dr. F.

Trad climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - May 13, 2014 - 11:08pm PT
Credit: Dr. F.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
May 13, 2014 - 11:13pm PT
^^^^
HolyShitThatsFunny.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
May 15, 2014 - 03:08am PT
http://news.yahoo.com/california-gop-worried-over-top-two-governor-race-052054893.html

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — California Republicans who have been trying to rebrand their party as more inclusive and attuned with the issues that Californians care about had hoped this year to offer a candidate for governor who fit that image.


Now, however, the party faces the prospect of a conservative gubernatorial nominee who is on probation for carrying a loaded gun into an airport, is accused of race-baiting and is best known for his opposition to gun control and any relaxation of immigration laws.

Donnelly's popularity in public opinion polls ahead of the June 3 primary had already elicited concern from Republicans when he began trying to link Kashkari, who is Indian-American and Hindu, to Islamic Shariah law.

These liars just can't help themselves.

Making Indian Americans into Islamic Sharia supporters. Republicans!
bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
May 15, 2014 - 09:19am PT
what liberalism hath wrought:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/taxpayer-funded-white-privilege-conference-is-jam-packed-with-crazy/


good news, libs, we're ALL racists...see, climbing is a predominantly white sport; therefore, all participants (including non-white participants) are indulging "white privilege"

watch the video; it explains everything clearly
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