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Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 24, 2013 - 09:15am PT
For the wacko Far right wing Tea Baggers, Fox News isn't far enough to the right, they need to go way further in spewing out lies and propaganda!!

Or in other words, they have given up their critical thinking skills for ideology and cultism.

Why Tea Partiers Are Boycotting Fox News

by David FreedlanderMar 23, 2013 4:45 AM

First it was the ‘left’ turn after the election, then Benghazi coverup accusations. Activists have a list of demands for the conservative network, which some say is ‘not as fair and balanced as I thought.’

Is Fox News going soft?

That is what a number of Tea Party activists are saying and they are organizing a boycott to protest the conservative station’s coverage, especially what they view as the network’s relative silence in investigating the attacks on a diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya.

“Particularly after the election, Fox keeps turning to the left,” said Stan Hjerlied, 75, of Fort Collins, Colo., and a participant in the boycott. He pointed to an interview Fox News CEO Roger Ailes gave after the election in which he said that the Republican Party and Fox News need to modernize, especially around immigration. “So we are really losing our only conservative network.”

The three-day boycott lasted Thursday morning through Sunday morning, and is the second time this group of activists have gone Fox-free in an effort to steer the coverage. Organizers say a two-day boycott earlier this month knocked 20 percent off of the network’s regular viewership. (A Daily Beast analysis of the same data showed that the boycott had little effect.)

A spokeswoman for Fox News did not respond to a request for comment.

A leader of the boycott, Kathy Amidon, of Nashville, declined an interview, instead directing The Daily Beast to a website, Benghazi-Truth. The website, a single-page, 23,000-word manifesto complete with multicolored fonts, supposedly incriminating videos of Fox News’s complicity in a coverup, and communist propaganda photographs, is kept by someone who identifies himself online as “Proe Graphique,” and who other members of boycott described as someone who works “in New York media.”

By way of explanation, the website reports: “People ask why not all mainstream media? Why just Boycott FOX? The answer, again, is that FOX needs the Tea Party/conservatives more than the conservatives need FOX after FOX turned left, basically selling out the people who made FOX successful in an attempt to earn an extra buck. FOX is extremely vulnerable to these boycotts while the rest of the MSM doesn’t need us at all, to speak of.”

Organizers then encourage would-be Fox News viewers to wait until the One America network, which is supposed to launch this summer as an alternative to Fox, goes on the air.

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The night of the first boycott, Fox News host Sean Hannity devoted a segment to the attacks called “Six Months of Deceit.” Organizers didn’t watch it—since they were boycotting the network—and said that it was too little, too late, anyway.

“We have seen FOX suddenly get very loud about Benghazi after the 1st boycott, but conservatives are conservative because they are not stupid,” the website reads. “We recognize, easily, loud noise which is low on substance. In other words, by whining loudly about Benghazi without the kind of hard-hitting investigative reporting that brought down Nixon over Watergate, what we are seeing from FOX IMO is smoke and mirrors; a trick, to fool us into dutifully genuflecting at their [sic] alter of their arrogant hosts who throw us crumbs with one hand while insulting us with the other. If we want FOX to get serious, we’re going to have to keep hitting them hard. And that is just exactly what we're going to do.”

Amidon and Proe Graphique—who goes by the Twitter handle FrankMDavis, an apparent reference to the leftist poet who conspiracy theorists believe was Obama’s real father—send out dozens of tweets every day to ideological allies, asking them to contact their representatives to join the boycott.

“The more I looked at it, I have come to the conclusion that Fox is not as fair and balanced as I thought. They shade the truth also.”

Going without the conservative movement’s house organ, however, has proven to be no easy task for true believers.

“I am having withdrawal. I do like Fox News,” said Kevin Avard, a former state lawmaker in New Hampshire who is participating in the boycott. “I have been going to CNN, and to Headline News just to get some kind of fix. I usually probably only watch them once or twice a year.”

Hjerlied said that “If I want news, I go to Breitbart News and Drudge and I can find all the news I need, very quickly,” and after the first boycott, says he may have “kicked the habit” for good.

“I used to have it on all day long, and I probably watched maybe six hours last week,” he said. “The more I looked at it, I have come to the conclusion that Fox is not as fair and balanced as I thought. They shade the truth also.”

Donnie Farner, 48, works as a chimney sweep in central Pennsylvania and runs a website, Proud Conservative, which sells right-leaning memorabilia like “Liberals Are Friggin Idiots” T-shirts and bumper stickers which read “Ten Out of Ten Terrorists Recommend Voting Democrat.”

He said staying away from Fox News, and in particular its website, is harder than he realized.

“It is honestly because Fox is everywhere. If you are on Twitter, you click on a link, chances are it might go through Mediaite or Drudge, but it ends up at Fox because Fox originated the story.”

He quickly clicks away, instead relying on Glenn Beck’s website The Blaze to stay informed.

“The more I research into Fox—I saw that they donate more to Democratic candidates than conservative or Republican candidates—I was like holy cow! Maybe they are just trying to snatch our pockets. Maybe they are just talking the talk, because it sure doesn’t look like they are walking the walk.”

Among the demands the protesters have is that Fox News “be the right-wing CBS News: to break stories, to break information, and to do what news organizations have always done with such stories: break politicians,” that the network have at least one segment on Benghazi every night on two of its prime-time shows; that Fox similarly devote investigative resources to discovering the truth of Obama’s birth certificate; and that the network cease striving to be “fair and balanced.”


Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Mar 24, 2013 - 09:20am PT

I was under the impression that Fox News fell under the "Sitcom" category...



Mar 24, 2013 - 09:25am PT

Hjerlied said that “If I want news, I go to Breitbart News and Drudge and I can find all the news I need, very quickly,”


Me too

All you need to know, really


Mar 24, 2013 - 03:44pm PT
Obama Gets Netanyahu To Apologize To Turkey For Humanitarian Flotilla Attack


In a visit filled with poignancy, symbolism and, yes, substance, one of the most dramatic and unexpected moments came minutes before Air Force One departed Israel for Jordan. As the milky white sky gave signs of trying to clear, Obama and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu stepped inside a trailer on the tarmac and made a historic call to Turkey's prime minister.

When the call was over, Israel and Turkey had restored diplomatic relations. After an acrimonious three-year dispute over a botched and lethal 2010 Israeli raid on a Turkish-flagged flotilla trying to break the Gaza blockade, Netanyahu apologized.

The reconciliation was not all Obama's doing, but he gave the final push that allowed two pivotal Washington allies to work out their differences at a time when events in Syria and Iran demand the United States and its friends work closely together.

And this is how real leaders actually lead.


Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Mar 24, 2013 - 03:56pm PT




Mar 24, 2013 - 05:15pm PT
Netanyahu is the number one aszhole on the planet right now and has been for many years.

He's the biggest terrorist on the planet period.

Number One .....

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Mar 24, 2013 - 05:28pm PT
The only thing going for Netayahoo is that he's not a stupid American getting rescued off El Cap...

Somewhere out there
Mar 24, 2013 - 05:41pm PT
Netanyahu is the number one aszhole on the planet right now and has been for many years.

 Never thought I'd say it…. I agree with Werner.


Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 24, 2013 - 05:58pm PT
It is hard to disagree with the truth. Unless your a RepuliTEAhadist or a FOX viewer.

Social climber
So Cal
Mar 24, 2013 - 08:48pm PT
1. The Turkish armed forces are heavily dependent on Israeli military technologies from the long years of the close alliance between the two countries, which Ankara cut short. This dependence applies most particularly to its drones, the backbone of today’s modern armies. It is also holding up the huge transaction for the sale of American Boeing Awacs electronic warning airplanes to Turkey.

Boeing was unable to deliver the aircraft without Jerusalem’s consent, because a key component, the early warning systems, is designed in Israel. This consent has been withheld in the face of Turkey’s urgent need and the US aviation firm’s impatience to consummate the deal.

Turkey is in need of those planes - not just to monitor events in neighboring wartorn Syria, but to complete its air defense lineup against Iranian ballistic missiles. Without the AWACs, the advanced FBX-radar system the US has stationed at the Turkish Kurecik air base is only partly operational. The Kurecik battery is linked to its equivalent at a US base in the Israeli Negev, a fact which Ankara chooses to conceal.

2. In view of the turmoil in Syria, the bulk of Turkey’s exports destined for the Persian Gulf and points farther east have been diverted to the Israeli ports of Haifa and Ashdod, whereas just a year ago, they went through Syria, Jordan and Saudi Arabia.

Since no end is seen to the Syrian conflict and the closure of the Turkish-Syrian border, more and more export traffic from Turkey is making its way through Haifa port and thence by rail across Israel to Jordan. Turkish goods bound for destinations in Europe and the US are diverted to Israeli ports too as Egyptian ports are made increasingly dysfunctional by that country’s economic crisis..
3. In the first year of the Syrian uprising, when Davutoglu was still a frequent traveler to Damascus for talks with Bashar Assad, Ankara entertained high hopes of becoming a major player for resolving the Syrian debacle. But he also sought to strike a deal with the Lebanese Hizballah, Assad’s ally, for obstructing Israeli gas and oil exploration in the eastern Mediterranean
Three years on, Turkish leaders have woken up to the realization that they had better hurry up and jump aboard the US-backed Israeli energy bandwagon or else they will miss out on an outstanding and lucrative economic development, namely, the forthcoming opening up of a Mediterranean gas exporting route to Europe.

4. Turkey, Israel and Jordan are all in the same boat as targets for the approaching large-scale use of Syria’s chemical and biological weapons.

The real reasons for the Israeli/Turkish/Jordanian Kabuki theater.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 24, 2013 - 09:14pm PT
The senate turned down anything to do with the UN treaty! Score one for the people! Sooo much for that Obama brain fart.
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 25, 2013 - 08:48am PT
What is the definition of a Right Winger?

Short version, "an a-hole with a stick up his ass."

that about covers everyone of them
but you could add ignorant, selfish, hypocritical, reactionary, easily manipulated, easily brainwashed, responds to fear and "Fake Outrage"
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 25, 2013 - 09:30am PT
For John E.

The asthma rate is 22% among children in Fresno because of the high PAH levels in the air, Fresno has the 5th worst Air Pollution in CA.
The asthma rate is 9.5% for the US as a whole.
"Science News, March 23, 2013"

Is that acceptable to you? Is it acceptable to you if it was far worse without our Air Pollution regulations we have in CA?

Fresno has laxer regs than LA, should LA relax the regs too? so we can higher asthma rates

The Air Pollution regs create 1000s of jobs as well, mine being one of them.
I can see no negative for having strict Air Pollution Regs, the only problem being the CEOs and stock holders can't rake in as much money.

So it comes down to "health for many vs. greed for a few"
What would Jesus say?

Mar 25, 2013 - 09:51am PT
"The real reasons for the Israeli/Turkish/Jordanian Kabuki theater."

"The senate turned down anything to do with the UN treaty! Score one for the people! Sooo much for that Obama brain fart."

Hahahahaha, and the yapping little chihuahuas have spoken.

Meanwhile, in the adult world...

With Obama as Broker, Israelis and Turkey End Dispute


Under persistent prodding from President Obama, Israel and Turkey resolved a bitter three-year dispute on Friday with a diplomatic thaw that will help a fragile region confront Syria’s civil war, while handing the president a solid accomplishment as he closed out his visit to the Middle East.

The breakthrough took place in the most improbable of surroundings: a trailer parked on the tarmac of Ben-Gurion International Airport. Moments before Mr. Obama left for Jordan, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu telephoned the Turkish prime minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, and apologized for deadly errors in Israel’s 2010 raid on a Turkish ship that was trying to bring aid to Palestinians in Gaza.

After years of angrily demanding an apology, Mr. Erdogan accepted Mr. Netanyahu’s gesture, and both sides agreed to dispatch envoys to each other’s nations, having recalled them in 2011.

The president’s involvement, a senior American official said, was crucial to both leaders, which is why Mr. Netanyahu scheduled the call before Mr. Obama’s departure from Israel.

Mr. Erdogan insisted on speaking to Mr. Obama first before the president handed the phone over to Mr. Netanyahu. In the end, the call produced a win-win for all sides.

And a fail-fail for the yapping chihuahuas.

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 25, 2013 - 10:11am PT
whacko leftys- the equal and opposite of WESTBORO types. About says it all.

meanwhile,, Obama was ducking missiles that hamas was sending into Israel why he was there.. Yeah another good job on the "cease fire" the admin helped make LMAO!
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 25, 2013 - 10:16am PT
Let's see, who identify them selves as right wingers?

Westboro Church, hard right
Neo Nazis, hard right
Gun Nuts
Chrisitain Fundamentalists
The Taliban
Al Qaeda
Karl Rove
Rand and Ron Paul
Sarah Palin

a million other despicable turds
the idiot lying Republican Pundits

Please show me One Respectable Right Winger???

There are none, that's why the Republicans can't put up a respectible Candidate for President, there isn't any one that can lie, scam and act well enough to fool people that they are respectable and legit.

Right Wing groups
Hate Mongers
War Mongers
Chicken Hawks
Abortion Dr. Killers
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 25, 2013 - 10:23am PT
good gaarief doc.. Some one piss in yur wheaties this morn?

Rand Paul has more sackage than harry reid-tard ever thought about having.

Or do i sense frustation with the annointed ones performance? His plans going down tubes left and right? Soooo much for that UN treaty crap...;-)

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Mar 25, 2013 - 10:54am PT
Dr. F.

I am personally quite aware of the asthma issue here, since my younger daughter was hospitalized twice when she was one year old. She has since grown out of it.

When you say our pollution is "worse" than that in LA, I think you're comparing different situations. The nature of San Joaquin Valley air pollution differs from that of the LA basin, because of the particulate matter and other air pollutants generated by farming, and because of different ways to compare "bad air."

The San Joaquin Valley has more days where the ozone level exceeds federal standards than the LA basin does (generally, at least), so by that measure, our air is clearly worse. We also have greater particulate matter issues, particularly in the spring and fall when farmers are planting and harvesting, and in the winter when people use wood fireplaces to heat their homes. Nonetheless, the overall pollution level here, as reported by NOAA, remains less than that in Pasadena, at least when I lived there. By that measure, our air is better.

Of course I support sensible regulations designed to control air pollution. The issue isn't whether we should have no regulation, the question is what constitutes "sensible" regulation. In economic terms, we'd ask what constitutes the optimal level and mix of pollution. Unfortunately, the debate seems to avoid the issue of optimality entirely. Thus, those supporting stricter restrictions focus solely on reducing pollution. Those supporting economic growth ignore pollution. Therein lies the rub.

As an example of what seems "sensible" to me, the San Joaquin Valley Air Pollution Control District ("SJVAPCD") enacted restrictions on use of wood fires to heat homes a few years ago, and restrictions on agricultural burning of waste many years before that. Those regulations really helped to reduce winter particulate pollution, without putting much, if any, additional burdens on economic growth. I miss my fireplace, but not as much as I enjoy being able to take a walk in the evening without coming home smelling like I'd spent the last hour over an oak-fired barbecue pit.

The issue gets much more difficult, however, when dealing with, say distribution centers or other sources of direct employment. When I see the SJVAPCD and the various local economic development agencies measure the marginal costs and benefits of the regulatory options they consider, I'll be a much happier observer. Again, the debate isn't over whether to regulate, it's over the appropriate amount and nature of regulation.


Mar 25, 2013 - 11:04am PT

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That about says it all for Rong

Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 25, 2013 - 11:09am PT
So you are for sensible Air Pollution Regulations

But are against Air Pollution Regulations that burden your cronies
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