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Nohea

Trad climber
Living Outside the Statist Quo
Mar 20, 2013 - 03:55pm PT
if Obama were white

Damn dood that is one pathetic post....is not the Pres hapa? Can you name any other junior senator with no other congressional experience that became President?
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 20, 2013 - 04:04pm PT
Can you name any other junior senator with no other congressional experience that became President?


irrelevant as every single prior President had never been president before

and many of them were never elected to federal office of any kind


wow, the numbers just keep growing: President Obama's vote count is now close to 5 million more than Romney's and still counting the stragglers, that is the second highest re election margin over an opponent of any Presiden in US history

boy, you guys really suck

why don't you put up Santorum next time?

after all, the ONLY reason you got beat so damn bad is because your candidate was not "conservative enough", right?

BASE104

Social climber
An Oil Field
Mar 20, 2013 - 04:07pm PT
It is true. The southern religious conservatives weren't even conservative until Johnson passed the Civil Right Act.

This placed all of the racists square into the lap of the Republican Party, which welcomed them with open arms. And they wonder why they can't get the vote of the poor and non-whites?

Now there are these voter ID laws whose only purpose is to keep the poor and blacks from voting.

First the Republicans redrew their districts to be unassailable, now they are trying to control who will vote.

This is despicable. Our democracy is in tatters when it comes to Congress.

We do have an advantage over our neighbors to the south. We have very little corruption, and if you are caught you will go to prison. In Mexico it is the only way to make a living and stay alive. Many countries to the south are just as poorly off.

I went to UTube to watch the CPAC speeches. Why they have Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann up there puzzles me. They are the reason that everyone is getting tired of the extreme right.

The right has purged anyone who even works with democrats. They are truly the party of NO. I'm old enough to watch this unfold, and it disgusts me.

We get Michelle Bachman in the place of a speech by the late William F. Buckley. Wow.
BASE104

Social climber
An Oil Field
Mar 20, 2013 - 04:11pm PT
The Iraq war was stupid. Bush 1 understood that Iraq was an enemy of Iran, and thus the two were a strategic threat to each other and too busy to do much with the rest of the world.

Now Iran is in a position that should have never happened.

I also remember Netanyahu always being a guest on the G. Gordon Liddy show. I can't believe that he is president of Israel again.
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 20, 2013 - 04:11pm PT
Credit: Dr. F.

Door No. 2, that's Bluering Calling

Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 20, 2013 - 04:32pm PT
The final word on Iraq has been written

Iraq was Better Off WITH Saddam Hussein

It's now a failed state, with a tyrannical dictator installed by Bush

a collapsed infrastructure, no security, no hope
cancer rates are up 1000% from depleted uranium ammunition
and birth defects are 14 times worse than after Hiroshima

We owe them trillions of dollars for the damage we did, yet the Republicans think they should pay us for liberating them, what a joke

Is there a Difference between Republicans and Democrats, hell yes, all that could have been avoided....
all by a vote

Vote for right wingers and you get lies, propaganda, suffering, death, destruction and economical collapse,
vote for a Dem and get a growing economy and good jobs

It's your choice




philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 20, 2013 - 04:40pm PT
Credit: philo
Anyone who thinks both parties are the same is either not paying attention or willfully ignorant. Image from Think Progress.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Mar 20, 2013 - 04:53pm PT
cancer rates are up 1000% from depleted uranium ammunition
and birth defects are 14 times worse than after Hiroshima

Seriously? Please cite a credible source, this has piqued my interest.
jghedge

climber
Mar 20, 2013 - 05:07pm PT
"vote for a Dem and get a growing economy and good jobs"

And a balanced budget

Paul Begala from CPAC, schooling Tucker Carlson and various stunned repubs:

http://www.bluevirginia.us/diary/8910/video-paul-begala-demolishes-tucker-carlson-cpac-crowd-on-debt-and-deficits

"Let me quote a conservative hero, Dick Cheney, who said Ronald Reagan taught us deficits don't matter. As he was about everything, Dick Cheney was wrong. He was wrong then, and he's wrong now. Of course deficits matter. But any one of you who supported the Bush tax cuts, the Bush war in Iraq, or the Bush prescription drug entitlement plan, has no business talking about debt; just sit down and shut up, let the grownups handle it. (booing) You're welcome. I helped Bill Clinton balance the budget and build a surplus."

"Why? Because we had good economic times. In good economic times, you pay down the deficit - as Clinton did, but Reagan did not and Bush did not - and in bad times you do have to stimulate in the near term, as thank god President Obama is doing. But any of you who caused this debt and deficit - no no, you forgot the rule, you have to hush up if you supported creating the deficit - it's like listening to lectures on hygiene from Typhoid Mary. So just let us grownups handle it; we Democrats will balance the budget once again."
Nohea

Trad climber
Living Outside the Statist Quo
Mar 20, 2013 - 05:17pm PT
irrelevant as every single prior President had never been president before and many of them were never elected to federal office of any kind

Wow! How deep a thinker this one is...its irrelevant because some one person that has been or is something was never this something before they became this something. Dood, pass the joint.

Actually, To date, sixteen senators have also served as president of the United States. Three senators, Warren G. Harding, John F. Kennedy , and Barack Obama moved directly from the U.S. Senate to the White House.

and who had the shortest road to the oval office?

Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Mar 20, 2013 - 05:20pm PT
Can you name any other junior senator with no other congressional experience that became President?

Lets see:

Eisenhower never served in Congress, at all.
Kennedy was a junior senator, and had no other congressional experience.
GW Bush never served in Congress, at all.
Saint Reagan never served in Congress, at all.
Truman was only a senator in his second term, which he barely won.

Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Mar 20, 2013 - 05:22pm PT
and who had the shortest road to the oval office?

That would be Eisenhower, who'd never held elective office before.

Boy, you sure ask stupid leading questions.....
Nohea

Trad climber
Living Outside the Statist Quo
Mar 20, 2013 - 05:27pm PT
Can you name any other junior senator

get with the program Ken, that wasnt the question.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 20, 2013 - 06:07pm PT
child's play

duh


bottom line, you morons lost big time

and you continue to lose because you are stupid as hell

you probably were dumb enough to vote to put Sarah fuking Palin one heartbeat away from being Commander in Chief, party of national security oh yeah



"The Republican Party is running out of ignorant and angry white men"
Republican Senator Lindsey Graham
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Mar 20, 2013 - 06:21pm PT
Yes, Bush was a disaster whose actions bordered on treason. Those that insist on defending his presidency are drinking the party hack Koolaid. There is another party hack Koolaid stand that of a lot of you recent posters are drinking from if you believe the propaganda you are reciting or that the democratic party is our salvation. Until we curtail the endless terms of career politicians and the money that buys their allegiance (be they right or left) their is little hope for real solutions to the deep problems afflicting this country.
Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
Mar 20, 2013 - 06:39pm PT
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 20, 2013 - 06:40pm PT
Iraq, it's worse than any one could imagine
for my bro Brandon


Fallujah babies: Under a new kind of siege

Dahr Jamail Last Modified: 06 Jan 2012 11:25


http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2012/01/2012126394859797.html

Doctors and residents blame US weapons for catastrophic levels of birth defects in Fallujah's newborns.

Congenital abnormalities have mushroomed in the wake of devastating US sieges in Fallujah in 2004 [EPA]


Fallujah, Iraq - While the US military has formally withdrawn from Iraq, doctors and residents of Fallujah are blaming weapons like depleted uranium and white phosphorous used during two devastating US attacks on Fallujah in 2004 for what are being described as "catastrophic" levels of birth defects and abnormalities.

Dr Samira Alani, a paediatric specialist at Fallujah General Hospital, has taken a personal interest in investigating an explosion of congenital abnormalities that have mushroomed in the wake of the US sieges since 2005.

US invasion leaves lasting Iraq scars


"We have all kinds of defects now, ranging from congenital heart disease to severe physical abnormalities, both in numbers you cannot imagine," Alani told Al Jazeera at her office in the hospital, while showing countless photos of shocking birth defects.

As of December 21, Alani, who has worked at the hospital since 1997, told Al Jazeera she had personally logged 677 cases of birth defects since October 2009. Just eight days later when Al Jazeera visited the city on December 29, that number had already risen to 699.

"There are not even medical terms to describe some of these conditions because we've never seen them until now," she said. "So when I describe it all I can do is describe the physical defects, but I'm unable to provide a medical term."

'Incompatible with life'

Most of these babies in Fallujah die within 20 to 30 minutes after being born, but not all.

Four-year-old Abdul Jaleel Mohammed was born in October 2007. His clinical diagnosis includes dilation of two heart ventricles, and a growth on his lower back that doctors have not been able to remove.

Four-year-old Abdul Jaleel Mohammed has birth defects and health problems that his family blames on depleted uranium exposure from the 2004 US military attacks on Fallujah [Dahr Jamail/Al Jazeera]


Abdul has trouble controlling his muscles, struggles to walk, cannot control his bladder, and weakens easily. Doctors told his father, Mohamed Jaleel Abdul Rahim, that his son has severe nervous system problems, and could develop fluid build-up in his brain as he ages, which could prove fatal.

"This is the first instance of something like this in all our family," Rahim told Al Jazeera. "We lived in an area that was heavily bombed by the Americans in 2004, and a missile landed right in front of our home. What else could cause these health problems besides this?"

Dr Alani told Al Jazeera that in the vast majority of cases she has documented, the family had no prior history of congenital abnormalities.

Alani showed Al Jazeera hundreds of photos of babies born with cleft palates, elongated heads, a baby born with one eye in the centre of its face, overgrown limbs, short limbs, and malformed ears, noses and spines.

She told Al Jazeera of cases of "thanatophoric dysplasia", an abnormality in bones and the thoracic cage that "render the newborn incompatible with life".

Rahim said many of his relatives that have had babies after 2004 are having problems as well.

"One of them was born and looks like a fish," Rahim said. "I also personally know of at least three other families who live near us who have these problems also."

For now, the family is worried how Abdul will fare in school when he is enrolled next year. Maloud Ahmed Jassim, Abdul's grandfather, added, "We've seen so many miscarriages happen, and we don't know why."

"The growth on his back is so sensitive and painful for him," Rahim said. "What will happen in school?"

Jassim is angered by a lack of thorough investigations into the health crisis.

"Why is the government not investigating this," he asked. "Western media seem interested, but neither our local media nor the government are. Why not?"

In April 2011, Iraqi lawmakers debated whether the US attacks on the city constituted genocide. Resolutions that called for international prosecution, however, went nowhere.

Scientific proof

Alani, along with Dr Christopher Busby, a British scientist and activist who has carried out research into the risks of radioactive pollution, collected hair samples from 25 parents of families with children who have birth defects and sent them to a laboratory in Germany for analysis.

Alani and Busby, along with other doctors and researchers, published a study in September 2011 from data obtained by analysing the hair samples, as well as soil and water samples from the city.

Mercury, Uranium, Bizmuth and other trace elements were found.

The report's conclusion states:

"Whilst caution must be exercised about ruling out other possibilities, because none of the elements found in excess are reported to cause congenital diseases and cancer except Uranium, these findings suggest the enriched Uranium exposure is either a primary cause or related to the cause of the congenital anomaly and cancer increases. Questions are thus raised about the characteristics and composition of weapons now being deployed in modern battlefields."

"As doctors, we know Mercury, Uranium and Bismuth can contribute to the development of congenital abnormalities, and we think it could be related to the use of prohibited weapons by the Americans during these battles," Alani said.

"I made this link to a coroner's inquest in the West Midlands into the death of a Gulf War One veteran... and a coroner's jury accepted my evidence," he told Al Jazeera.

"It's been found by a coroner's court that cancer was caused by an exposure to depleted uranium," Busby added, "In the last 10 years, research has emerged that has made it quite clear that uranium is one of the most dangerous substances known to man, certainly in the form that it takes when used in these wars."

In July 2010, Busby released a study that showed a 12-fold increase in childhood cancer in Fallujah since the 2004 attacks. The report also showed the sex ratio had declined from normal to 86 boys to 100 girls, together with a spread of diseases indicative of genetic damage similar to but of far greater incidence than Hiroshima.

Dr Alani visited Japan recently, where she met with Japanese doctors who study birth defect rates they believe related to radiation from the US nuclear bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

She was told birth defect incidence rates there are between 1-2 per cent. Alani's log of cases of birth defects amounts to a rate of 14.7 per cent of all babies born in Fallujah, more than 14 times the rate in the affected areas of Japan.

A contaminated country?

In Babil Province in southern Iraq, the head of the Babil Cancer Centre, Dr Sharif al-Alwachi, said cancer rates have been escalating at alarming rates since 2003, for which he blames the use of depleted uranium weapons by US forces during and following the 2003 invasion.

"The environment could be contaminated by chemical weapons and depleted uranium from the aftermath of the war on Iraq," Dr Alwachi told Al Jazeera. "The air, soil and water are all polluted by these weapons, and as they come into contact with human beings they become poisonous. This is new to our region, and people are suffering here."

The US and UK militaries have sent mixed signals about the effects of depleted uranium, but Iraqi doctors like Alwachi and Alani, and along with researchers, blame the increasing cancer and birth defect rates on the weapon.

Abdulhaq Al-Ani, author of Uranium in Iraq, has been researching the effects of depleted uranium on Iraqis since 1991. He told Al Jazeera he personally measured radiation levels in the city of Kerbala, as well as in Basra, and his Geiger counter was "screaming" because "the indicator went beyond the range".

Alani explained that she is the only doctor in Fallujah registering cases of congenital abnormalities.

"We have no system to register all of them, so we have so many cases we are missing," she said. "Just yesterday a colleague told me of a newborn with thanatophoric dysplasia and she did not register it. I think I only know of 40-50 per cent of the cases because so many families have their babies at home and we never know of these, and other clinics are not registering them either."

The hospital where Alani does her work was constructed in the Dhubadh district of Fallujah in 2008. According to Alani, the district was bombed heavily during the November 2004 siege.

"There is also a primary school that was built nearby, and from that school alone three teachers developed breast cancer, and now two of them are dead," Alani said. "We get so many cases from this area, right where the hospital is."

Even with a vast amount of anecdotal evidence, the exact cause of the health crisis in Fallujah is currently inconclusive without an in-depth, comprehensive study, which has yet to be carried out.

But despite lack of governmental support, and very little support from outside Iraq, Alani is determined to continue her work.

"I will not leave this subject", she told Al Jazeera. "I will not stop."



google it, it's frightening what's going on in that country now
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 20, 2013 - 06:55pm PT
Tomas Young, Dying Iraq War Veteran, Pens 'Last Letter' To Bush, Cheney On War's 10th Anniversary


The Huffington Post | By Nick Wing Posted: 03/19/2013 1:31 pm EDT |

Days after the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, 2001, Tomas Young, then a 22-year-old from Kansas City, Mo., made a decision repeated by many other Americans around the country: He was going to enlist in the military in hopes of getting even with the enemies who had helped coordinate the deaths of nearly 3,000 men, women and children.

Less than three years later, Young's Army service placed him not in Afghanistan -- where then-President George W. Bush had told the nation the terrorist plot had originated -- but in Iraq. On April 4, 2004, just five days into his first tour, Young's convoy was attacked by insurgents. A bullet from an AK-47 severed his spine. Another struck his knee. Young would never walk again, and in fact, for the next nearly nine years, he would suffer a number of medical setbacks that allowed him to survive only with the help of extensive medical procedures and the care of his wife, Claudia.

The incident turned Young into one of the most vocal veteran critics of the Iraq War. He has, however, saved his most powerful criticism for what he claims will be his last. Young says he'll die soon, but not before writing a letter to Bush and former Vice President Cheney on the 10th anniversary of the Iraq War.

From Young's letter, published on TruthDig:

I write this letter, my last letter, to you, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney. I write not because I think you grasp the terrible human and moral consequences of your lies, manipulation and thirst for wealth and power. I write this letter because, before my own death, I want to make it clear that I, and hundreds of thousands of my fellow veterans, along with millions of my fellow citizens, along with hundreds of millions more in Iraq and the Middle East, know fully who you are and what you have done. You may evade justice but in our eyes you are each guilty of egregious war crimes, of plunder and, finally, of murder, including the murder of thousands of young Americans—my fellow veterans—whose future you stole.

Young goes on to attack the "cowardice" of Bush and Cheney for avoiding military service themselves, and to encourage them to "stand before the American public and the world, and in particular the Iraqi people, and beg for forgiveness."

(Read Young's entire letter here.)

Young was the subject of the 2007 documentary "Body of War," which was about his recovery process and the Iraq War. At a February screening of the film, Young told the audience that he planned to end his life in April.

According to the Ridgefield Press, Young announced that he would stop taking all nourishment and life-extending medications at that time. He's since said that the deterioration to his body from the injury and ensuing complications would make it physically impossible for him to commit suicide in any other way.

"It's time," he told the audience over Skype, while seated beside his wife. "When I go I want be alert and aware."

Young spoke more about his decision in a recent interview with journalist and Iraq War critic Chris Hedges.

“I made the decision to go on hospice care, to stop feeding and fade away," he said. "This way, instead of committing the conventional suicide and I am out of the picture, people have a way to stop by or call and say their goodbyes. I felt this was a fairer way to treat people than to just go out with a note."
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Mar 20, 2013 - 08:14pm PT
THE PRESIDENT ON THE HUNDRED DOLLAR BILL WAS NEVER EVEN PRESIDENT!!!1111
Gary

Social climber
Right outside of Delacroix
Mar 20, 2013 - 08:29pm PT
Kos for the win!

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