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jghedge

climber
Mar 17, 2013 - 01:23pm PT
"wow, the likeness between the two (party v. topo-pubes) is uncanny"

They base their opposition to liberalism on spite, basically, and knee-jerk obstinacy to anything we are in favor of, without thinking through what's involved, or even caring, really...so as soon as it comes time too back up their opposition with actual facts, and thought-out opinions based on actual facts, they fail.

Try to imagine how that would work out in court, if they were actually being asked to present a case...they'd get laughed out of the building - just like they get laughed out of the debate here.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Mar 17, 2013 - 01:45pm PT
So I propose a truce, of sorts.

Let's find something that we can agree upon.

How about the F-35? The TRILLION dollar plane that cannot fly, and that by the time it is airworthy, will be obsolete.

Cannot both sides come together to defeat this waste?

Supersonic drones are clearly the answer. It is inconceivable that they are not already in development and being flown. Faster, lighter, smaller, cheaper.
jghedge

climber
Mar 17, 2013 - 02:39pm PT
I just do not buy that they're "one good candidate away" from winning elections anymore, or that the pendulum is going to swing back the other way - the demographics are too far against them - I think they're finished.

Anything they try to do to moderate, the Tea Party and Bible Belt will revolt, and form a viable 3rd party, that might well actually out-poll repubs in 2016. Stale, Pale and Male just isn't going to cut it anymore...
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 17, 2013 - 02:43pm PT

liberal bias = failure to validate or sufficiently flatter the conservative narrative on any given subject

Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Mar 17, 2013 - 03:29pm PT
BREAKING:

Irrelevant Man Snaps Back at Irrelevant Woman

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/03/17/karl-rove-snaps-back-at-sarah-palin/
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Mar 17, 2013 - 04:58pm PT
I just do not buy that they're "one good candidate away" from winning elections anymore, or that the pendulum is going to swing back the other way - the demographics are too far against them - I think they're finished.

Anything they try to do to moderate, the Tea Party and Bible Belt will revolt, and form a viable 3rd party, that might well actually out-poll repubs in 2016. Stale, Pale and Male just isn't going to cut it anymore...

And that is the danger, complacency.

If they had had a good candidate, this time around, they'd have won the presidency.

All they have to do is tamp down the religiousity, and have someone who is truly likable.

That's how Reagan won. And he set things in place for a generation.

There is still a large group that thinks of themselves as conservative. In fact, it is a larger number than who identify themselves as liberal.

They simply need to find a person who transcends labels. Colin Powell could have done that, and heading that way was Patraeus.

Speaking of personalities, I went to a lecture a couple of weeks ago by the President of the Univ of Calif, whose spend a lot of time as a College President. Specifically, he mentioned that he had served under Jessie Ventura, GW Bush, Rick Perry, Ahnold S, and Jerry Brown. He's thinking about writing a book about them.
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Mar 17, 2013 - 05:52pm PT



 Just one more reason not to believe anything a republigoon has to say. They say no to higher minimum wage, they say no to health care, they say no to everything…

Here is proof that a company can pay a decent (actually better than decent wage) and still make plenty of money for the shareholders.
jghedge

climber
Mar 17, 2013 - 06:23pm PT
"If they had had a good candidate, this time around, they'd have won the presidency."


126 electoral votes is a huge margin, though

As I recall Obama won 10 out of the 11 critical swing states, only losing NC

True FL was close, but he could have lost it, and a few others, and easily been re-elected

Again the demographics are too much against them, there really is no historical precedent for what's happening on that front, with white people becoming the minority and the old white GOP base dying off

The camera panned over the audience during SARAH's CPAC stand-up routine, and it looked like a meeting of Octogenarians Anonymous - that party couldn't be any more screwed demographically
jghedge

climber
Mar 17, 2013 - 07:43pm PT
"Committee chairman Reince Priebus on Sunday, March 17, also proposed shortening the presidential nominating calendar in 2016 and limiting the number of primary-season debates to avoid the self-inflicted damage from inside-party squabbling on the eventual nominee. Priebus' top-to-bottom changes include picking the moderators for the debates and then crowning the nominee as early as June so he or she could begin a general election campaign as quickly as possible."

http://www.twincities.com/national/ci_22812505/rnc-spend-10-million-reach-minorities


"...changes include picking the moderators for the debates..."


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

They want to be able to pick the moderators FOR THEIR OWN DEBATES!!!!!

Not for when they're debating the democrat candidate - FOR WHEN THEY'RE DEBATING EACH OTHER!!!!!



AND THEY ACTUALLY ADMIT IT!!!! THEY NEED THE MODERATORS TO BE BIASED IN THEIR FAVOR FOR WHEN THEY DEBATE...THEMSELVES!!!!




COULD THERE POSSIBLY BE A MORE PATHETIC ADMISSION OF INCOMPETENCE THAN THIS



HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Mar 18, 2013 - 12:56am PT
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/18/us/facing-protective-orders-and-allowed-to-keep-guns.html?hp&_r=0

Early last year, after a series of frightening encounters with her former husband, Stephanie Holten went to court in Spokane, Wash., to obtain a temporary order for protection.

Ms. Holten had recently applied for and obtained an order for protection against Mr. Holten. Her former husband, Corey Holten, threatened to put a gun in her mouth and pull the trigger, she wrote in her petition. He also said he would “put a cap” in her if her new boyfriend “gets near my kids.” In neat block letters she wrote, “He owns guns, I am scared.”

The judge’s order prohibited Mr. Holten from going within two blocks of his former wife’s home and imposed a number of other restrictions. What it did not require him to do was surrender his guns.

About 12 hours after he was served with the order, Mr. Holten was lying in wait when his former wife returned home from a date with their two children in tow. Armed with a small semiautomatic rifle bought several months before, he stepped out of his car and thrust the muzzle into her chest. He directed her inside the house, yelling that he was going to kill her.

“I remember thinking, ‘Cops, I need the cops,’ ” she later wrote in a statement to the police. “He’s going to kill me in my own house. I’m going to die!”

Ms. Holten, however, managed to dial 911 on her cellphone and slip it under a blanket on the couch. The dispatcher heard Ms. Holten begging for her life and quickly directed officers to the scene. As they mounted the stairs with their guns drawn, Mr. Holten surrendered. They found Ms. Holten cowering, hysterical, on the floor.

For all its rage and terror, the episode might well have been prevented. Had Mr. Holten lived in one of a handful of states, the protection order would have forced him to relinquish his firearms. But that is not the case in Washington and most of the country, in large part because of the influence of the National Rifle Association and its allies.

Advocates for domestic violence victims have long called for stricter laws governing firearms and protective orders. Their argument is rooted in a grim statistic: when women die at the hand of an intimate partner, that hand is more often than not holding a gun.

In these most volatile of human dramas, they contend, the right to bear arms must give ground to the need to protect a woman’s life.

In statehouses across the country, though, the N.R.A. and other gun-rights groups have beaten back legislation mandating the surrender of firearms in domestic violence situations. They argue that gun ownership, as a fundamental constitutional right, should not be stripped away for anything less serious than a felony conviction — and certainly not, as an N.R.A. lobbyist in Washington State put it to legislators, for the “mere issuance of court orders.”

Another example of how the NRA has abandoned all illusion of promoting responsible gun ownership and is instead focused on defending the indefensible. Every other argument against tighter gun regulation is somehow about defending abused and battered women against their psycho husbands but...oops...we're going to make sure the psycho husbands are well armed too. Presumably Ms. Holten's error here was not arming her children and then using SWAT style tactics to clear the area when they got home.

*edit*

Oops. I left out the best part!

By analyzing a number of Washington databases, The New York Times identified scores of gun-related crimes committed by people subject to recently issued civil protection orders, including murder, attempted murder and kidnapping. In at least five instances over the last decade, women were shot to death less than a month after obtaining protection orders. In at least a half-dozen other killings, the victim was not the person being protected but someone else. There were dozens of gun-related assaults like the one Ms. Holten endured.
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Mar 18, 2013 - 06:43am PT
Yup, I've said it many times here before:

The NRA wants criminals to be armed.

Every gun sold to a criminal is a sale. Every gun in the hands of a criminal will generate ten more sales.

That is the "elevator speech" for their business model.

TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
Mar 18, 2013 - 07:36am PT
That's why the NRA opposes laws that might actually reduce gun crime; a safer country would reduce the demand for legal guns. Simple, effective.

TE
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Mar 18, 2013 - 10:52pm PT
Again the demographics are too much against them, there really is no historical precedent for what's happening on that front, with white people becoming the minority and the old white GOP base dying off


Don't forget that only 8 years ago, a Repub won. The demographics have not changed that much.

they won the majority of the House seats THIS election.
The hold the majority of Governorships.

As I said, this is the danger.....complacency.

jghedge

climber
Mar 18, 2013 - 11:02pm PT
"Don't forget that only 8 years ago, a Repub won. The demographics have not changed that much."


Even that election was a death knell for repubs - flip 1 swing state, and Bush would have lost

Romney was their last chance - dems now know how to press the demographic advantage


Complacency is one thing, paranoia another

Look at CA - no realistic projection of current trends possibly envisions repubs making any kind of meaningful comeback


I thought that repubs wanting to pick the moderators for their own debates was a particularly telling sign - basically they're admitting that, without being able to "work the refs", they have no chance




John M

climber
Mar 18, 2013 - 11:17pm PT
60 million Americans voted for an arrogant tool like Romney. One decent candidate and they are back in.

On a different subject. Today I was in Oakhurst and I heard two different conversations where people were saying that they thought America would have another civil war. The non gun owners versus the gun owners. I overheard one conversation in Raleys between 5 middle aged adults, 3 men and 2 women. One of the women said it was those people who voted for Obama, so I stepped over and told them I voted for Obama, and then asked them if they were planning on shooting me. It was surreal. That shut them up, but it was so strange being in a grocery store hearing seemingly normal looking middle class people talking like that.
Plus I heard something similar in the hardware store.

And Cragman said he thought there would be a fight within one year of Obama being reelected.

Personally I don't think so, but is was bizarre to hear normal middle class people talking about this. I think that forces behind our media is driving it, but its just so strange.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Mar 18, 2013 - 11:19pm PT
Americans’ support for same-sex marriage at all-time high, survey finds

Post poll finds 58 percent approve; support grows across age, parties.


In the meantime, the official Repub platform calls for a Constitutional Amendment to prohibit gay marriage.

You see, the Repub problem is that people don't really understand their positions.....they need to come out more forcefully!
bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Mar 19, 2013 - 06:14am PT
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/9933468/336-million-abortions-under-Chinas-one-child-policy.html

of course, most of these abortions are performed to eliminate female babies, which begs the question:

why do libs hate girls so much?


Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 19, 2013 - 06:34am PT
they won the majority of the House seats THIS election.


but they did by gerrymandering the districts

and in fact more Americans voted for Democrats than Republicans for House seats
by over a million votes
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 19, 2013 - 08:46am PT
"Nevada Liberties preservation Act"

sb 378 being introduced now by Senator Gustavson..

A counter measure against the NDAA 2013 laws that will prohibit the feds from using "indefinite" detentions against the citizens of the state.


Right On Senator Gustavson!
jghedge

climber
Mar 19, 2013 - 08:54am PT
"Today I was in Oakhurst and I heard two different conversations where people were saying that they thought America would have another civil war. "

There is going to be something like another Civil War

Except it won't be gun owners against non-gun owners

It'll be gun owners vs Apache helicopters, and drone strikes

Slightly different than the last Civil War
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