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jghedge

climber
Mar 11, 2013 - 11:43am PT
"But many Republicans cannot see the obvious because they are so enamored by their war toys."

Not to mention the irrefutable fact that the Red States themselves are supported by socialism. The liberal Blue States support the conservative Red States. There's only one Red donor state left now - Texas. All the others are supported by Red Sate Socialism, receiving more from the federal gov't than they pay in.

The people who complain the most about socialism are the ones who benefit the most from it - don't believe me? Ask Chris Christie.

http://www.politifact.com/new-jersey/statements/2012/nov/18/chris-christie/chris-christie-says-new-jersey-receives-smallest-r/
Gary

Social climber
Right outside of Delacroix
Mar 11, 2013 - 12:00pm PT
It's no coincidence that every fully socialist country in history had a large military.

What fully socialist countries would those be? Norway? Sweden?
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Mar 11, 2013 - 01:25pm PT
We've been through this before.

Norway and Sweden are not socialist economies.

They are not even close.

I buy some of my furniture at IKEA.

And I have a friend that drives a Saab.

Fully socialist countries: USSR, Cuba, North Korea, China (although China is changing...)
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Mar 11, 2013 - 01:55pm PT
The countries you cite are not socialist, mainly fascist or dictatorships.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 11, 2013 - 02:07pm PT
If only our VETERANS could obtain the help from the govt illegal aliens enjoy. Whats wrong with that picture. How come my repub senator has to fight tooth and nail for a little justice for Vets, while illegals get a free paid for ride.?
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Mar 11, 2013 - 02:17pm PT
More than 20 percent (over 700) of the Congressional Medal of Honor recipients in U.S. wars have been immigrants. As the official guide to recipients notes, “Those who have received the Medal of Honor since it was established in 1861 as the nation’s highest decoration are as different as the melting pot population of our country.”
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 11, 2013 - 02:18pm PT
ILLEGAL being the KEY word doood...
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Mar 11, 2013 - 02:29pm PT
"Illegal" immigrants have contributed way more than you would ever like to admit Ron.

Most illegals contribute more than MANY natural born citizens.
PLENTY of losers born here.
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Mar 11, 2013 - 02:30pm PT


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locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Mar 11, 2013 - 02:31pm PT


""Illegal" immigrants have contributed way more than you would ever like to admit Ron."...



Plus THEY can name all of the Presidents...

survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Mar 11, 2013 - 02:33pm PT
ILLEGAL being the KEY word doood...


Actually, the key word is STEREOTYPE.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 11, 2013 - 02:35pm PT
illegals cost cali last year: 10 billion....Did vets get that much?






survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station

Mar 11, 2013 - 11:29am PT
"Illegal" immigrants have contributed way more than you would ever like to admit Ron.

Most illegals contribute more than MANY natural born citizens.
PLENTY of losers born here.








Uhhhh ok.. Got examples?
locker

Social climber
Some Rehab in Bolivia
Mar 11, 2013 - 02:38pm PT


I personally DON'T want to be paying $10.00 for a head of lettuce...

Gary

Social climber
Right outside of Delacroix
Mar 11, 2013 - 02:45pm PT
We've been through this before.

Norway and Sweden are not socialist economies.

They are not even close.

I buy some of my furniture at IKEA.

And I have a friend that drives a Saab.

Fully socialist countries: USSR, Cuba, North Korea, China (although China is changing...)

Dave, you've got that totally backwards.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 11, 2013 - 02:46pm PT
KNOTT talking about documented farm workers or ANY other legal workers OR legally migrated citizens..

Im talking about the ones that come here NOT to be part of this country. Those who go fishing with out licenses and catch hundreds of fish over the limit - or poach anything they see from raptors to horses, otters to elk.
Im talking about those that come here to further the cartels, and gangs. Im talking about the ones that now commit the majority of violent crimes in most areas, NIGHTLY. Im talking about those that turn once good neighborhoods into third world looking trash heaps. Im talking about those who havent paid didly in taxes licenses or anything else of that nature, but send home $$$$ to bring more of the same kind into the country. Those that wont even try to learn the launguage. Those that steal, rob and murder. Those that suck up any clinics or other medical services until they can no longer accept any more clients, citizen or not. Im talking about the ones that want to fly mexican flags instead of stars and bars. Im talking about the ones that tag my rocks with hate messages and other crap. Im talking about the ones that busted into my buddies home a couple of weeks ago that now inhabit the carson city jail. We gettin the picture now?
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Mar 11, 2013 - 02:49pm PT
Ron, you're talking about the vast minority of undocumented immigrants.

John M

climber
Mar 11, 2013 - 02:50pm PT
illegals cost cali last year: 10 billion....Did vets get that much?

Totally misleading number and study because it didn't talk about the net cost. It didn't discuss how much taxes are collected from these people. It just looked at how much it costs.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Mar 11, 2013 - 02:58pm PT
Uhhhh ok.. Got examples?


Yer kidding right? You actually want examples of native born losers and illegals being more productive than that?


Refer to step 1: Stereotype.



California has the largest immigrant population in the US, and immigrants (both legal and illegal) are under represented among California prison inmates.[99] The most recent research indicates approximately 35% of the California population consists of immigrants, while immigrants represent 17% of the prison population. In fact, U.S. born adult men are incarcerated at a rate over two-and-a-half times greater than that of foreign-born men. However, this does not separate the illegal versus legal immigrants.

Illegal immigrants avoid involvement in criminal activity to reduce interaction with law enforcement officials, and according to Tim Wadsworth, an assistant professor of sociology at the University of Colorado at Boulder, "[t]he suggestion that high levels of immigration may have been partially responsible for the drop in crime during the 1990s seems plausible."


100% of the illegals I have known personally went out of their way to be super law abiding.

But according to you, they come here specifically to break every law in sight.

We all bow to the mighty Carson City cartels.
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Mar 11, 2013 - 03:07pm PT
The countries you cite are not socialist, mainly fascist or dictatorships.

Those are not exclusive.

One reason that we are talking past each other is that many have attempted to redefine socialism in order to disassociate it from the massive humanitarian catastrophes that have resulted from every attempt at a fully socialist economy. Also, there are both political and economic definitions for socialism, but the economic model requires a certain political structure to enforce.

Read the Wikipedia article on socialism and one will see that there are many different variants of socialism, but it is notable that almost all of them are academic theories.

Despite the differences of opinion on semantics, there is little debate that full socialsim means very limited private property ownership along with prices and resource allocation that are set by the state and not by free markets. The countries I listed above meet those requirements, certainly far more than Sweden or Norway.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 11, 2013 - 03:13pm PT
Illegal immigrants avoid involvement in criminal activity to reduce interaction with law enforcement officials, and according to Tim Wadsworth, an assistant professor of sociology at the University of Colorado at Boulder, "[t]he suggestion that high levels of immigration may have been partially responsible for the drop in crime during the 1990s seems plausible."


From Survivals paste^^^^



And YOU believe that? Do you watch the bay area news nightly?? They report a whole other world.

In the past month weve had seven homicides around here ,, 6 were Mexican natls, illegal and legal.

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