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Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Mar 27, 2014 - 10:23pm PT
Chief wrote: Or should we abolish all the "Free Market" principals and go straight to wealth distribution so that those individuals that do not nor have worked any time of the lives, can reap from the work of others.



Are you talking about the uber rich here?

The poor are called poor for a reason...so what wealth distribution are you talking about?

The rich have it and most didn't work for it.
The Chief

climber
The Land of the Mongols above Bishop
Mar 27, 2014 - 10:24pm PT
The rich have it and most didn't work for it.

Really!

Please do cite a ref for that assertion.

Let's start with Bill Gates.


Or, let's see, how about George Soros himself.


Or...


Just about every "rich" I dude I personally know, started with just about nothing and busted his/her ass to acquire what they now have.



I sense a bit of jealousy. Big Time.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Mar 27, 2014 - 10:25pm PT
Chief, for a guy who sits behind a desk and answers phones, you seem to have it out for the working stiff.

You don't understand the issue of wage disparity. Perhaps the word "wage" might give you a clue. It has to do with WORKING people. But of course, you immediately make the statement that those near the bottom who WORK, "have never worked in their lives". Must be how you think of your work, eh?

I also like how you seem to be viewing teachers. Sort of the same as navy chiefs, I guess. You'd know best if they are lard asses, sitting all day and pretending to do work, while they are actually producing paper.

But I guess you must know. They don't deserve to make a living wage, either chiefs (who get their food and shelter FREE, unlike the teachers), or teachers. No value to society to either one. If you say so.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 27, 2014 - 10:29pm PT
Does it make you happy that there are Billionaires on both sides of the political spectrum?
Does it make the dark money of the Koch's, Hunt's and the Sherman Adelson's more palatable knowing there is some other Billionaires like Gates and Soros on the other side?
Did it make all the impeachable crimes of the "Tricky Dick" Nixon administration less of a scar on your Republican psyche to be able to bandy about slogans like "Slick Willy"? How about all the other false equivalent accusations the right wing talking heads burble up every day? Does it make you feel like less of an idiot for supporting the Shrub?
The Chief

climber
The Land of the Mongols above Bishop
Mar 27, 2014 - 10:29pm PT
You don't understand the issue of wage disparity.

E-1 Base Pay in 1974 was $276 a month.

E-5 (Married) Base Pay in 1978 was a whopping $498

E-6 (Married) Base Pay in 1982 got me rich at $655


Shall I continue...
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Mar 27, 2014 - 10:29pm PT
The reality of Wealth distribution:

"In the United States, wealth is highly concentrated in a relatively few hands. As of 2010, the top 1% of households (the upper class) owned 35.4% of all privately held wealth, and the next 19% (the managerial, professional, and small business stratum) had 53.5%, which means that just 20% of the people owned a remarkable 89%, leaving only 11% of the wealth for the bottom 80% (wage and salary workers). In terms of financial wealth (total net worth minus the value of one's home), the top 1% of households had an even greater share: 42.1%. Table 2 and Figure 1 present further details, drawn from the careful work of economist Edward N. Wolff at New York University (2012)."
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Mar 27, 2014 - 10:31pm PT
Chief wrote: E-1 Base Pay in 1974 was $276 a month.

E-5 Base Pay in 1978 was a whopping $498

E-6 Base Pay in 1982 got me rich at $655


Shall I continue...


Room, board and so on...please do continue.
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 27, 2014 - 10:32pm PT
^^^ Not to mention free health care and paid leave. Oh yeah and PX prices.



Meanwhile teachers across the country are spending their own limited funds on supplies for the students.
The Chief

climber
The Land of the Mongols above Bishop
Mar 27, 2014 - 10:33pm PT
That does not state shet about how them rich dudes that you are all jealous about, acquired their money.


I personally know a dude down in Fontana that started his business with a $5000 loan from his Grand Dad some 12 years ago


He is now worth well over $69 Million



So, we can now assume according to BOBDA, that Bill Gates is one of them scumbags that didn't work a day in his life.


WTF is a PX?


Free Health care??

Last year alone I paid over $6988 dollars in Co-Pay charges. The year before, $7345.


Wow... you guys really are ignorant.

philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 27, 2014 - 10:35pm PT
Sorry $69 million though nice and worthy of a hearty congratulations is chicken scratch. He wouldn't even be allowed to valet park for the real 1%.


And so what exactly do these hedge fund managers who make so much do to earn this whopping windfall?
I can tell you exactly what teachers do every day and it is worth more to this country than any Billionaire. Think about, where did Bill Gates really get his start?
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Mar 27, 2014 - 10:36pm PT
Chief wrote: So, we can now assume according to BOBDA, that Bill Gates is one of them scumbags that didn't work a day in his life.


So according to chief the poor are lazy scumbags who never worked a day in their lives.

What a tool you are.
Dr. F.

Trad climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 27, 2014 - 10:37pm PT
Christie, Not Quite Dead Yet

Michael Tomasky
03.27.14

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/03/27/christie-not-dead-yet.html

Politically, this new report “clearing” Chris Christie is anticlimactic and largely irrelevant. I put the irony quotes around clearing because, well, what did you expect a report commissioned by Christie and conducted by a long-time aide to alpha dog Christie defender Rudy Giuliani (I refer to Randy Mastro) to conclude? That Christie should be indicted?

So that’s what makes it largely irrelevant.
The Chief

climber
The Land of the Mongols above Bishop
Mar 27, 2014 - 10:39pm PT
No BABDA... here is your post though claiming that most of the rich did not work for it!

Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM

Mar 27, 2014 - 07:23pm PT

The rich have it and most didn't work for it.



You have yet to post any ref to validate your bullshet claim.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 27, 2014 - 10:40pm PT

there are two leisure classes in America

the rich and the poor

hey, all ya gotta do is inherit enough millions, get the smartest advice available, occasionally sell some of your daddy's stocks,
and sit back and harvest the returns

just ask Mitt Romney how he got to a 200 million dollar "worth"

he "worked" for his money, the old fashioned way

The Chief

climber
The Land of the Mongols above Bishop
Mar 27, 2014 - 10:41pm PT
Here's one of Craig's (DRF) local heroes...


Wonderful. Just wonderful.



SAN FRANCISCO/SACRAMENTO (Reuters) - A prominent California lawmaker was arrested on Wednesday in an FBI sweep that netted 26 people, a high-profile case that could affect statewide elections and brings to three the number of Democratic state senators who face criminal charges this year.

Senator Leland Yee, a former San Francisco supervisor and one-time mayoral candidate, was criminally charged in federal court in San Francisco with two felony counts of conspiring to import and traffic in firearms, and six corruption counts.

A criminal complaint posted online by the U.S. Attorney office for the Northern District of California alleges that Yee did favors for an undercover FBI agent in exchange for campaign contributions. The complaint alleges that Yee also offered to facilitate a meeting between the undercover agent and an arms dealer, and discussed the types of weapons that the undercover agent might need.

Yee's arrest deals a body blow to California Democrats, whose two-thirds majority in the state Senate was eroded when Democratic Senator Ron Calderon, indicted on corruption charges, and Democratic State Senator Rod Wright, found guilty of voter fraud, took paid leaves of absence earlier this year.

Later Wednesday, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms issued a statement ripping the 65-year-old San Francisco Democrat.

“If these allegations are true, Sen. Yee is easily the biggest hypocrite on gun control to walk the halls of the capitol in Sacramento, if not the entire United States,” said the group’s chairman Alan Gottlieb.

“It is hard to fathom this kind of activity on a scale as massive as these court documents allege. If Sen. Yee and his fellow defendants are convicted, they’re going to wind up in one of the biggest gun-free zones in the country, a federal prison.
http://news.yahoo.com/california-state-senator-arrested-fbi-sweep-005409780--finance.html

Yup... them local State Democrat's are just a bunch of "stand up Guys" that we should all admire and emulate.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 27, 2014 - 10:42pm PT

ask the Walton heirs how they worked for their billions

toughest question of the day, what shall we choose for lunch?
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 27, 2014 - 10:43pm PT
Chiefie it doesn't matter to US Liberal Progressives what party they are from, if they are guilty of wrong doing they should pay the consequence. Plain and simple what's your problem?


See the Chief confuses the self made individual worth a few million with those at the real top of the wealth scale. You could argue that an elite athlete like Peyton Manning who is fabulously wealthy has worked his ass off all his life and still "earns" every dime.
How does that compare with a Vulture Capitalist like Mint rMoney?
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 27, 2014 - 10:43pm PT
should we post a very long list of indicted and convicted Republican politicians?

just to be fair and balanced, and to offset blind partisan bias?
The Chief

climber
The Land of the Mongols above Bishop
Mar 27, 2014 - 10:45pm PT
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?

Mar 27, 2014 - 07:43pm PT
Chiefie it doesn't matter to US Liberal Progressives what party they are from, if they are guilty of wrong doing they should pay the consequence. Plain and simple what's your problem?

No Problem.


Then the current President of the United States should be held accountable for accepting large donations from that particular individual and many of his share holders.

Right Philo???


George Soros Gives $1 Million To Barack Obama Super PAC

“I fully support the re-election of President Obama,” Mr. Soros said in the email. He had not contributed until now, he wrote, because he opposed the Supreme Court’s Citizens United decision in 2010, which paved the way for super PACs and unlimited money in politics. But since then, Mr. Soros wrote, he had become “appalled by the Romney campaign which is openly soliciting the money of the rich to starve the state of the money it needs to provide social services.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/27/george-soros-super-pac_n_1920491.html
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 27, 2014 - 10:49pm PT
If they are illegal donations then damn straight he should.
The Koch's have poured at least $30 million into their candidate's coffers for mid term elections and it isn't even April yet. And that doesn't take in to consideration their undeclared dark money donations.

The Chief you don't have the sea legs to stand on and your shootin' Maggie's Drawers.
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