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Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 5, 2013 - 08:46pm PT
Tags: Afghanistan | withdrawal | billions | hardware
$36 Billion of Military Hardware Could Be Destroyed in Afghan Pullout
Tuesday, 05 Mar 2013 11:21 AM
By Todd Beamon


The Obama White House is cutting $65 billion in the sequester, but it could easily leave or torch 750,000 pieces of major military hardware — worth $36 billion — in Afghanistan after U.S. troops pull out by the end of next year.

Here are the options, according to Face the Facts USA of the George Washington University: Leave the equipment — or destroy it — in Afghanistan; move it to other U.S. military outposts; or transfer it to another U.S. agency or to another country.

The estimated cost for the latter two options: $5.7 billion.

The equipment includes trucks, aircraft, and armored vehicles — most of which are controlled by the Army.

Because the Afghanistan terrain is mountainous and landlocked, transport would be difficult. But leaving it behind intact could put the equipment in the wrong hands.

So, is it best to torch $36 billion in U.S. military assets? And Trash afghanistan in the process?


jghedge

climber
Mar 5, 2013 - 09:10pm PT
"The estimated cost for the latter two options: $5.7 billion."

Making it, by far, one of the least expensive Bush messes to clean up to date.


Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 5, 2013 - 09:46pm PT
The Republicans voted to do the cuts that are in the sequester, Not pulling equipment out of Afghanistan or any other thing that should have been cut, not anything good, nor anything that You may want cut
So choke on it, if you will

rong, you voted for them to waste money, why don't you like when they do?
michaeld

Sport climber
Sacramento
Mar 5, 2013 - 09:54pm PT
Drugs are bad mkay
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 5, 2013 - 09:54pm PT

Conservative Media Ignore Obama's Sequester Plan

Research February 22, 2013 3:37 PM EST ››› EMILY ARROWOOD

http://mediamatters.org/research/2013/02/22/conservative-media-ignore-obamas-sequester-plan/192778


Conservative media are attacking President Obama for supposedly criticizing scheduled across-the-board cuts, known as the sequester, while not proposing alternatives to avoid them. In reality, Obama has proposed a plan to replace the sequester that includes over $930 billion in spending cuts and $580 billion in new tax revenue.



Obama offered $1.51 Trillion in deficit reduction, and all the Republicans could do was drop the ball and get $86 billion in crappy cuts that will do more damage than good.

Why didn't they take the $1.51 Trillion??????
Because they don't care about our economy, they just care about keeping the status quo, and doing as little as possible that will do the most damage

And then they lied about Obama having No plan!
The plan was too good for them to take, so instead they just lie about him having no plan.
Treasonous bastards, that's what they are

Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Mar 5, 2013 - 09:58pm PT
So, is it best to torch $36 billion in U.S. military assets? And Trash afghanistan in the process?

It cost $36 billion.

It is worth nothing if it cannot be used elsewhere. Much of that stuff was probably built just for this war. Sure we could ship it back to some boneyard here in the US and spend money every year to store it while it rusts away.

The key term here is sunk cost.

As far as "trashing" Afghanistan goes...the place is already one of the world's largest junkyards.





jghedge

climber
Mar 5, 2013 - 10:04pm PT
Scrap it in Afghanistan, and sell the Chinese the scrap - scrap metal already being our #1 export anyway.

Next fake, brain-dead repub "controversy"?
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Mar 5, 2013 - 10:34pm PT
So, rong, you post an opinion piece for the White House JUST BEING PRESENTED with all options and their costs?

They haven't decided to do that, it is simply an option that was discussed in a position paper.

So that all the options had been considered.

Don't you want all the options explored, along with it's price tag?

ISN'T THAT HOW YOU DO BUSINESS?
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 5, 2013 - 10:59pm PT
Disgraced Ex-Congressman Attacks John Boehner in New Book, Bob Ney, who was imprisoned for his role in the Jack Abramoff scandal, has some scores to settle.

George E. Condon Jr.

Updated: March 5, 2013 | 6:05 p.m.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/disgraced-ex-congressman-attacks-john-boehner-in-new-book-20130305?page=1

Former Congressman Bob Ney has spent time in India with devotees of the Dalai Lama since being released from prison. (Tsering Chonay)

For a man who says he has found inner peace through meditation and study under the Dalai Lama, former Rep. Bob Ney of Ohio has an awful lot of anger. The once-powerful House chairman, who was forced out of office by scandal in 2006 and spent 11 months in federal prison, now has given powerful voice to that anger in a memoir coming out this week.

The book’s 377 pages are packed with insider criticisms of some of Washington’s biggest names of the past two decades. The targets for the longtime GOP officeholder are almost all fellow Republicans, including current House Speaker John Boehner; former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales; the assistant attorney general who prosecuted him; Republican strategist Karl Rove; former President George W. Bush; former Vice President Dick Cheney; former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay; and Sen. John McCain.

Surprisingly, Ney praises the federal judge who sentenced him, and he exhibits more sadness than anger toward super-lobbyist Jack Abramoff, the man responsible for his downfall.

In the book, Sideswiped: Lessons Learned Courtesy of the Hit Men of Capitol Hill, Ney does not shield himself from criticism. He writes a lot about his out-of-control drinking but insists he is not blaming his problems on alcoholism. He proudly notes he has not had a drink since Sept. 13, 2006, 30 days before he pleaded guilty to one charge of making false statements and one charge of “honest services fraud” for accepting gifts, trips, meals, and drinks from Abramoff.

Before the book, Ney had talked extensively about his situation only once, in a 2010 interview with National Journal Daily. In that interview, he joked that before overcoming his anger, “I could have computerized my resentment list.” In some ways, this book is that list.

Ney’s most dramatic accusations are against his fellow Ohioan John Boehner, the man he once saw as his biggest rival to someday being speaker. He describes Boehner as “a bit lazy” and “a man who was all about winning and money. He was a chain-smoking, relentless wine drinker who was more interested in the high life--golf, women, cigarettes, fun, and alcohol.” He said Boehner “spent almost all of his time on fundraising, not policy.” He “golfed, drank constantly, and took the easy way legislatively.” Ney recalled Boehner handing out checks on the House floor and said his ties with a tobacco company were so tight that lawmakers could get free cigarettes from Boehner’s office. His golfing, Ney said, was “nonstop” and “paid for by lobbyists.”

Ney wrote: “If the Justice Department were ever to make John produce receipts for his addiction to golf just for the years from 1995 to 2004, he would be hard-pressed to comply. John got away with more than any other Member on the Hill.”

The most inflammatory accusation against Boehner in the book is Ney’s contention that he ended his reelection campaign after winning the primary in 2006 only after Boehner, then the majority leader, summoned the cash-strapped and embattled congressman to his office and told him if he quit the race, Boehner would take care of him. “If you resign the next day, I will personally guarantee you a job comparable to what you are making, and raise legal defense money for you that should bury all this Justice Department problem for you,” Boehner said, according to Ney. He said he pressed Boehner, repeating the terms and getting assurance that the offer was “ironclad.” When Ney called back the next day to accept the deal, he wrote that he again repeated the terms to Boehner, who agreed. “Because of Boehner’s promise, I stepped aside,” he wrote. But Ney said Boehner did not keep his word. “I had been lied to and ditched,” Ney said.

more..see link
Bharata

Mountain climber
Pune
Mar 6, 2013 - 01:01am PT
three cheers for our president! he said there will be great pain for the sequester cutting and we all must now obey his lawful statements and find some pain to experience. For climbers yes this makes very much sense.

Email tells feds to make sequester as painful as promised
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/5/email-tells-feds-make-sequester-painful-promised/
Gary

Social climber
Right outside of Delacroix
Mar 6, 2013 - 08:35am PT
“If we have flexibility, we’re going to try to use it to make sure we use sequester in the most equitable and least disruptive way,” the secretary told Rep. Kristi L. Noem, a South Dakota Republican who grilled Mr. Vilsack about the email. “There are some circumstances, and we’ve talked a lot about the meat inspection, where we do not have that flexibility because there are so few accounts.”

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/5/email-tells-feds-make-sequester-painful-promised/#ixzz2Mla6Sskc
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Mar 6, 2013 - 09:17am PT
Obama has three aspects which make the path of the tyrant likely:

1. He has a monstrous narcissism and actively encourages a pseud-religious passion in his followers.

2. He's a socialist, and therefore believes in the totalizing power of government and politics.

3. He's incompetent, and therefore can never solve a crisis and bring a situation into a stable state. Instead, we simply move from one crisis to another.

All these work horribly well together. An incompetent socialist's reaction to failure is, of course, more socialism. A socialist who already believes in the untrammeled power of government and politics is even a bigger believer when he conceives of himself as a near-god.
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Mar 6, 2013 - 09:40am PT
I LIKE TO USE THE WORD TYRANT BECAUSE IT MAKES ME SOUND LIKE I'M ONE OF THOSE FOUNDING FATHER GUYS WHO WERE ALWAYS SAYING BIG IMPORTANT THINGS
jghedge

climber
Mar 6, 2013 - 10:52am PT
"And that's why TGT won't give links to his wingnut cut-n-pastes."

It's politics dumbed down to the pro-wrestling-fan level, so people like TGT can understand and relate to it.

Problem is, that approach is now backfiring - only 22% of Americans now identify as repubs. They've become the fringe. Being in "the stupid party" isn't something most Americans want to be associated with (except, of course, the stupid ones).
locker

Social climber
FukUville
Mar 6, 2013 - 10:56am PT


THREAD DRIFT:

"Drugs are bad mkay"...


Yeah, those antibiotics that save lives daily are BAD for sure!!! (not to mention the many other life saving, "DRUGS")...

Fuking drugs!!!...


;-)

WBraun

climber
Mar 6, 2013 - 11:11am PT
Some drugs are bad.

Just see what happened to Locker ...... :-)
Gary

Social climber
Right outside of Delacroix
Mar 6, 2013 - 11:25am PT
cmon now Gary,, Reagan was no cannibal.

You sure about that, Ron? I read that on the Internets, it must be true.

He certainly was a friend to terrorists, though. Sending missiles and weapons to the Ayatollahs, arming nun killers in Central America, paying homage to the Waffen SS. And that's just for starters.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Mar 6, 2013 - 11:28am PT
LOL TGT

1. False- Bizzarre
2. False- Idiotic
3. Debatable- He is not a dictator and cannot make the house be reasonable especially since their whole goal is to destroy him. In tough negotiations one must have a good faith partner. The republicans are pretty much he definition of negotiating in bad faith.
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 6, 2013 - 11:34am PT
Reagan was the beginning of the Conservative dive into evil

Just lie to the public about how great everything is, tell them they get to pay lower taxes, and are getting the bad guy, God is on our side!!!

as you rape and pillage the third World, fund terrorist groups, sell drugs in the inner cities, have secret torture prisons, wire tap the country, have army of mercenaries working on secret wars against innocent people

Dupe the weak minds so they don't know that they are being led by a group of Mafia like Tyrants ruining the Country from the inside out.

Then when you are found out, blame it on the Dems, hopefully they will be back in power, and will clean up some of the mess., so in the future, you can steal again after they paid back your debts
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Mar 6, 2013 - 11:36am PT
HOMELAND SECURITY DRONES DESIGNED TO IDENTIFY CIVILIANS CARRYING GUNS.

Recently uncovered government documents reveal that the U.S. Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) unmanned Predator B drone fleet has been customize designed to identify civilians carrying guns and track cell phone signals.
"I am very concerned that this technology will be used against law-abiding American firearms owners," said founder and executive vice president of the Second Amendment Foundation Alan Gottlieb. “This could violate Fourth Amendment rights as well as Second Amendment rights."
The Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC) obtained a partially redacted copy of Homeland Security’s drone requirements through a Freedom of Information Act request; CNET uncovered an unredacted copy.
Homeland Security design requirements specify that its Predator B drones “shall be capable of identifying a standing human being at night as likely armed or not” and must be equipped with “interception” systems capable of reading cell phone signals.
The first known domestic use of a drone to arrest a U.S. citizen occurred last year in the small town of Lakota, North Dakota when rancher Rodney Brossart was arrested for refusing to return six of his neighbor’s cows that had wandered on to his property. Critics say the fact that domestic drones are being used in such minor matters raises serious concerns about civil liberties and government overreach.
"That drone is not just picking up information on what's happening at that specific scene, it's picking up everything else that's going on," says drone expert and Brookings Institution senior fellow Peter Singer. "Basically it's recording footage from a lot of different people that it didn't have their approval to record footage.”
Others, like progressive author Naomi Wolf, have warned that domestic drones may soon be weaponized. The military version of the Predator B drone carries 100-pound Hellfire missiles, but the Homeland Security’s Customs and Border Protection (CBP) says the 10 drones in its domestic fleet are unarmed.
Last month, NBC News uncovered a confidential 16-page Justice Department memo that concluded the U.S. government may execute a drone strike on a American citizen it believes to be a “senior operational leaders” of al-Qaida or “an associated force.”
The Obama Administration defended the use of drones to kill Americans thought to be working with terrorists. “These strikes are legal, they are ethical, and they are wise,” said White House press secretary Jay Carney.






sooo, we WONT PROFILE to get rid of possible threats,, INSTEAD the gubbmint will now create a state of survielance for ALL of us... FUGGIN RIDICULOUS... Jack booted sosnsabitches anyhow.
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