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Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Feb 8, 2013 - 08:24am PT
Bookworm cannot make a post without using the word "liberal."

It's ALL he talks about, apparently all he thinks about.

Kinda sad.

jghedge

climber
Feb 8, 2013 - 08:43am PT
"liberals compared bush and cheney to hitler for waterboarding three ADMITTED terrorists (none of them died or suffered any residual physical or emotional injury)..."

Hahahaha, you haven't the faintest clue what you're talking about

I love these wingnuts who pretend to be privy to secret intel - the fantasy world bubble they live in is so cute!
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 8, 2013 - 08:57am PT
We Hung the Japanese for Waterboarding, it's a War Crime........

If you haven't heard, Torture is worse than Death
Those 3 gave zero intel, and are like living zombies now,
They would kill themselves if they had a chance.

Compared to 3 Americans killed by a Drone while they were planning an attack on America
There is No Comparison.



Want to not be killed by Obama's kill program?
Don't announce that you are at war with America and plot an attack.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Feb 8, 2013 - 09:24am PT
Two of them wer ploting attacks on America and got what they deserved.


One of them was a 16 YO kid eating lunch.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 8, 2013 - 09:25am PT
Agreed they got what they deserved,, BUT a quite dangerous precedent was also set.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Feb 8, 2013 - 09:27am PT
Don't eat lunch with Al-Quida operatives.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Feb 8, 2013 - 09:29am PT
Two of them wer ploting attacks on America and got what they deserved.


One of them was a 16 YO kid eating lunch.


what does eating lunch have to do with anything?


President Obama will order the killing of anyone, anyone at all, who is a threat to America

deal with it, he does not screw around and he will kill you years later, just ask Bin Laden
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 8, 2013 - 09:30am PT
Tru that.. But what about the al-kay-dus currently working within this country? Are they gonna get droned?

And how about the rest of the world that now lives with the possibility of a US DRONE flying over their dwellings on the way to a target? How does that sell in the rest of the worlds eyes??
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Feb 8, 2013 - 09:35am PT
freedom isn't free and drones, like guns, are the price we pay to keep America safer

I don't care where they live or if they are American citizens or not, kill em anyway
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Feb 8, 2013 - 09:36am PT
Don't need a drone to go after Al-Quida in this country.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Feb 8, 2013 - 10:03am PT
The difference between the Republican and Democratic positions on the sequester is simple:

Democrats believe reaching a compromise is preferable to letting the sequester happen, since it could devastate the military and scuttle the recovery.

Republicans believe letting the sequester happen is preferable to reaching a compromise, even though it could devastate the military and scuttle the recovery.


The problem for Republicans remains that they are on record saying that the sequester would devastate our military and are even on record saying it would scuttle the recovery.

And so the current political situation is this: One side is willing to reach a compromise to avert disaster for the country;

the other is not only unwilling to reach a compromise to avert disaster, it views the impending disaster as an opportunity to get what it wants and even sees it as preferable to compromise. This is an objectively true description of the two sides’ positions.

If Republicans believe this is a political winner for them, then hey, go for it.

ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Social climber
SLO, Ca
Feb 8, 2013 - 10:06am PT
Torture and drone assassinations are bullshit as is the paranoia over terrorism.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Feb 8, 2013 - 10:14am PT
Torture and drone assassinations are bullshit as is the paranoia over terrorism.

My colleague, Yeneneh Betru, a pulmonary specialist, practiced in Burbank, but created a foundation to make kidney dialysis available in his home country of Ethiopia.

He was on his way to deliver the first dilysis machine, when he flew to New York on American Airlines flight 77 on Sept 11, 2001.

So you may consider it paranoia, I can only hope the next terrorist act is upon your family, as that's the way karma works.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Feb 8, 2013 - 10:15am PT
al-kay-dus


Ron - could you please do me a favor? I know its silly but I really don't want my last name to be associated with Al- Qaeda, who I have no problem with the idea of napalming.

So if you would be so kind to spell it differently ( perhaps even properly) I would appreciate it.

thanks.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Feb 8, 2013 - 10:20am PT
Torture and drone assassinations are bullshit as is the paranoia over terrorism.

yeah, this is NO real reason to be concerned (paranoia) about people who want to attack the United States

I mean it's not like they would actually attack us, they just like thinking about it

right now Obama's Drones and counter-terrorism measures have decimated Al Qaeda

so let's stop killing them and let them regain strength and numbers!
ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Social climber
SLO, Ca
Feb 8, 2013 - 10:24am PT
I have essentially zero chance of being killed by a terrorist, karma or no karma. I went to a muslim country like four days after 9/11. Worrying about terrorists is about the same as worrying about getting hit by a meteor.

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 8, 2013 - 10:24am PT
Granted he has killed some alQUAAAY-duhs,, yet he has helped put the muskim brotherhood into power in places like Egypt, whos peoples cant stand the new regime,, and now we give them F-16s...Of which i can ONLY assume will be used against us in the short future...Makes ZERO sense to me.
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Feb 8, 2013 - 11:03am PT
President Obama will order the killing of anyone, anyone at all, who is a threat to America

deal with it, he does not screw around and he will kill you years later, just ask Bin Laden

Norton, I would modify that slightly. He will (or at least can) order the killing of anyone, anyone at all, who takes up arms against the United States on foreign soil. To my knowledge, he has never ordered the killing of anyone on American soil, and he has no power under current law to do so (although he can commute sentences of capital punishment on American soil, he can't order it). Other than that, I agree with you. Obama is simply continuing the policy of the United States of America that existed prior to the time he took office.

About the only legitimate criticism of that policy, to my mind, is that dead men tell no tales, so we gain no intelligence from dead bodies. I have enough confidence in the Obama administration, though, to believe that they take that into account in determining targets for drone attacks.

As Ken M reminds us, we are still at war with real terrorists who use deadly force, if offered the chance. The difference is that we are not at war with a country, that's all. The President has my full support and, in my opinion, deserves the support of other Republicans, on his anti-terror policies and actions.

John
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 8, 2013 - 11:07am PT
I fully applauded the action agains osama butt -wadden .. But i HAVE TO WONDER why we are financing the muslim brotherhood at the SAME TIME!????

Can any one explain that to me?
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Feb 8, 2013 - 11:14am PT
The difference is that we are not at war with a country, that's all.

That is why we are facing difficult legal questions that we have not had to face before (at least not to this extent.)

It's unfortunate that so many insist on making this out to be another left/right political issue. It is not that simple.

It all comes down to a basic, but difficult question:

What's the difference between a suspected criminal (who has rights under the Constitution) and an enemy combatant (who does not have rights under the Constitution) ?

I don't have a clear answer myself, nor have I heard a compelling case that any administration has acted egregiously outside the bounds of the Constitution when making these tough decisions.
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