locker
Social climber
Whitebread
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"Has the Republican Party done anything good for anyone in the last 30 Years??"...
In a way, yes!!!...
They're some of the best comedians around...
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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I just don't get why the GOP hates on the POTUS when he is perceived as 'left', and then hate on him when he's perceived as 'right'. They will never be happy. They could resurrect Reagan, elect him, and then they would hate on him.
Negativity, it's what the GOP eats for breakfast.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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They don't Hate Obama. They hate that they don't run the Presidency. Has nothing to do with Obama or his ideas. It has to do with the strategy of spinning anything he does as bad in order to get votes. Wouldn't matter if he literally did everything they asked him to do.. they would say it was bad as soon as he agreed.
Infact they have done exactly that several times.
Repeublicans are at war with democrats and they are approaching the limit called total war.
Regarding the 55MPH limit
I could be wrong but I seem to recall it being forwarded by Gingriches congress.. contract on America and such.
I'll look into it.
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House
Sponsored by Republican Bill Schuster
passed in house with 97% Only votes against were Democrats.
Senate Introduced by Republican John Warner
Passed Senate at 80 votes for and 16 against 13 of which were Democrat.
SO I think it's fair to say the republicans did it.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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More republican morals for TGT!
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Bharata
Mountain climber
Pune
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I can agree with Survival 100%. We are good they are bad.
For instance United States Senator Robert Menendez D-NJ is just like all of us good Democrats knows crystal clear when a nonviable tissue mass magically becomes a human being, he also knows with certainty when a minor becomes an adult in the Dominican Republic and can be legally paid to be f**ked.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Hi Bharata,
Like you, I have read the third person allegations of Menendez engaging in sex south of the US border.
Far as I know, he is not married, so no infidelity stuff to rage against.
BUT, if these accounts are PROVEN true, which he now denies, then yes he is in trouble.
Is this a False Equivalence thing? Like in Both Sides Do Immoral things?
posted to "balance" out the many convictions, not allegations, against Repubs?
a good answer might be to tell us IF you voted for Romney?
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Dr. F.
Big Wall climber
SoCal
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 7, 2013 - 11:29am PT
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Climbski
Thanks for the info
We can say it was passed on Clinton's watch.
And that the Republicans haven't done anything good when they were in power
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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. Fannie and Freddie were minor (and late to the game) players in the securitization market.
Are you telling me, Jorrah, that they were minor players in housing lending?
[Me:]//"I don't think that anyone equipped with 20/20 hindsight can say the ratings agencies accurately assessed the risk of the subprime mortgage pools. Why, then, does the SEC and others require the use of the same ratings agencies (including S&P) to assess asset safety? How does this make any derivatives more safe or more transparent?"//
[Your reply]"Because hopefully this time they will actually do their job. Of course that would be easier if the SEC would kick out all the market fundamentalists that were running the place throughout the Greenspan era and beyond."
I'm not sure I even need to comment on this, so I'll only confine it to this: Any regulation works if the regulators have perfect foresight. To date, that assumption has no basis in reality.
John
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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It has to do with the strategy of spinning anything he does as bad in order to get votes.
Boy, that's certainly unique to Republicans!
The 55 MPH limit can have bipartisan blame. Nixon proposed it during the Arab Oil Embargo in 1973. The Democratic congress enacted it.
John
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locker
Social climber
FukUville
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"55 saves lives"...
I remember that saying well...
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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And it was a lie, Locker. In California, the largest drop in fatalities after the enactment of the "double nickel" came on urban surface streets, according to the 1975 Highway Patrol statistics. Obviously, something different from a drop in the maximum speed limit was at work there.
John
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locker
Social climber
FukUville
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Deleted original comment since I had misread your post...
"And it was a lie, Locker. In California, the largest drop in fatalities after the enactment of the "double nickel" came on urban surface streets"...
Did it save GAS???...
Seemed like a decent idea to me back then...
But it was a SLOW ride for sure...
LOL!!!...
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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I wrote a paper on the effect of the 55 MPH limit when I was in grad school in 1976, which is the main reason why I have such strong opinions on it. In the words of the highway patrol, "To date, no one has been able to establish a statistically significant correlation between speed limits and accident rates."
That same study posited that the (then new) 55 limit could reduce fatalities for two reasons:
1. It is indisputable that the severity of accidents increases sharply with speed; and
2. If a speed limit reduces the speed of the faster drivers, the speed dispersion (i.e. the distribution of speeds, from fastest to slowest) might be narrowed. Unlike speed limits, speed dispersion has a very strong effect on accident rates. A vehicle traveling just 5 mph slower than the speed of traffic was ten times as likely to be involved in an accident then as one traveling at the speed of traffic. Incidentally, this is not symmetric. One must go ten mph faster than the speed of traffic to have the same increase in accident likelihood as a vehicle traveling 5 mph slower.
In any case, when I did the econometric analysis, I found that the relative cost of gasoline (compared with that of other commodities) had a very strong negative correlation with fatality rates. In other words, the more expensive the price of gas relative to everything else, the safer the roads get. Just as all previous studies did, mine also found no statistically significant correlation between speed limits and safety. In fact in one run, the faster the speed of traffic, the safer.
I theorized at the time that the effect of the 55 mph limit was to worsen speed dispersion, rather than lower it, but adding to the number of slower vehicles, without reducing the number of faster ones. I reasoned that those who were speeding when the limit was 70 would continue to do so with a 55 limit, but those who were not speeding would slow down. The result would yield a histogram of speeds of vehicles that looks rather like a dumbbell: big concentrations at two different points.
I got distracted by taking a year off to study law before I could finish my research, and ended up sticking with law rather than getting my doctorate in economics, so I don't know if anyone followed this up.
In any case, the truth is that driving the speed of traffic saves lives.
John
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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I agree with a lot of what you said in your last post, Joe, which worries me. The California Republican Party is dysfunctional, and has no clear cure on the horizon.
Judging California successful, however, as your link implies, strikes me as quite premature, particularly given our underfunded liabilities for public employee retirement benefits. While I'm happy we voted to start paying (at least in part) for what we're spending, we're still on the hook to spend a whole lot more than we take in, particularly at the local governmental levels. Vallejo, Stockton and San Bernardino will have lots of company before this is through.
John
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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The 55 MPH limit can have bipartisan blame. Nixon proposed it during the Arab Oil Embargo in 1973. The Democratic congress enacted it.
blame?
the word blame insinuates wrongdoing, what exactly is to blame about 55?
was gas "saved" at a time of temporary oil shortage and rising prices, yes
were lives saved nationwide as a result? irrelevant as that was not the intent
it is better to do something about a problem than do nothing? yes in my view
and so a Democratic congress passed legislation, somehow this is important to point out?
don't know why the party would matter, but did not a Republican President sign it?
common sense legislation doesn't "need" to be bipartisan as long as it goes through
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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According to Wikipedia Best estimate perhaps 1% reduction in gas usage was observed although 2 to 3% was predicted.
One wonders however if That 1% saved was more expensive than the loss in productivity.
Regardless I'm happy it's gone especially since the arguments for it were even weaker than I realized.
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moosedrool
Trad climber
lost, far away from Poland
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Republicans, exercise your brains!
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Dr. F.
Big Wall climber
SoCal
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 7, 2013 - 07:18pm PT
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