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rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Feb 6, 2013 - 07:14pm PT
Philo....Laughed when i saw the American Standard...Nice pun...RJ
jghedge

climber
Feb 6, 2013 - 09:20pm PT
Fascinating to watch Rachel Maddow and Andrea Mitchell raking Obama over the coals over drone strikes right now on MSNBC - the supposed epitome of left wing liberal media

It was on Maddow's show that the secret memo revealing the drone strike policy, and the administration's legal justification for it, was first brought to light in the first place

The FauxNews equivalent would have been Hannity not only hammering Bush over the Downing Street memos, but actually revealing them on his show - which of course had a snowball's chance in hell of ever happening

Nor is FauxNews even remotely as focused on this issue as MSNBC currently is

Basic truth - liberals want, and can handle, the truth

Pathetic Repub Idiots only want spoon-fed, wingnut propaganda, which is the only pablum their tiny little pea brains can digest.
jghedge

climber
Feb 6, 2013 - 09:24pm PT
"...we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite."


How is this any different from what repubs spew in their clown-car primaries, castigating anything that contradicts biblical dogma?

Highlighting the emphasis repubs place on this is exactly how dems win swing-state elections, TGT

You really need that explained to you?

Or you just don't understand what Ike was saying?

(the latter)
Jorroh

climber
Feb 6, 2013 - 10:41pm PT
1. The idea that the financial system was endangered because a very heavily regulated economic sector needs more regulation is not a priori obvious;

Actually it is very obvious. There were many voices calling for regulation of derivatives (Brooksley Borne and others) and this market was not "very heavily regulated"...in fact it was very lightly regulated. So statement 1 is both innacurate and completely misses the point that a heavily regulated sector can have areas which are very under regulated. Regulation needs to be active and ongoing because financial "innovation" is active and ongoing. This is exactly what happened with derivatives as Republicans and Libertarians stood in the way of new regulations to cover the advent of new financial products. Ironically it was the lack of "job-killing regulation" that really killed the jobs.

2. Many of us believe the housing bubble was strongly influenced by the behavior of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Mssrs. Dodd and Frank were two of the main defenders of those disastrous policies, and were great impediments to reform of them; and

You can believe what ever rubbish you want John. But the fact that you would drag out this old BS seriously weakens your credibility. Fannie and Freddie were minor (and late to the game) players in the securitization market. While the bubble was being pumped up the very last thing the big banks wanted to do was let anyone else securitize the mortgages that they and their suppliers were writing. That was where the money was. After the crisis had broken, Fannie and Freddie had to soak up (as part of TARP) all the garbage leftovers that the big banks were holding in order to keep the banking system solvent, but thats a very different thing.

3. Finding the current system imperfect does not make its alternative better.

Who's talking about an alternative? we're talking about trying to make the current financial system better.

The Dodd-Frank legislation will generate a huge compliance cost in the industry but, IMO, does nothing to deal with the underlying cause of financial bubbles, not does it strengthen the financial system in dealing with those bubbles. Since the suit and S&P is in the news today, I'll focus on credit rating for the remainder of this diatribe, but there are hundreds, and probably thousands, of other topics upon which I could expound.

Well I agree with you on DoddFrank, Banks, through the legalized political bribery which you support, were able to water down, obfuscate and circumnavigate most of the key objectives...too big to fail etc.

I don't think that anyone equipped with 20/20 hindsight can say the ratings agencies accurately assessed the risk of the subprime mortgage pools. Why, then, does the SEC and others require the use of the same ratings agencies (including S&P) to assess asset safety? How does this make any derivatives more safe or more transparent?

Because hopefully this time they will actually do their job. Of course that would be easier if the SEC would kick out all the market fundamentalists that were running the place throughout the Greenspan era and beyond.

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Feb 7, 2013 - 08:22am PT
NEv Legislature begins to WEED out the deadwood!


Steven Brooks No Longer Member of Assembly Democratic Caucus


CARSON CITY, NV - Assemblyman Steven Brooks is no longer a member of the Assembly Democratic Caucus, according to a statement from Nevada Assembly Democratic Caucus Wednesday night.

The statement reads: At this time, the organization has determined it's in Mr. Brooks and the organization's best interest to part ways. The caucus encourages him to work on his health issues without the rigor of caucus business. The ADC remains as committed as ever to conducting the people's business this session.






Brooks has been under scrutiny after being arrested in January over threats he allegedly made about Assembly Speaker Marilyn Kirkpatrick. He was later admitted to a hospital for a mental evaluation.

Wednesday, he attended the Assembly floor session, the day after he rejected a leave of absence request from Assembly leadership. He told reporters later that a paid leave was simply out of the question because he's here to serve his constituents.




boyyy, does that remind me of some here!
jghedge

climber
Feb 7, 2013 - 08:26am PT
"He was later admitted to a hospital for a mental evaluation."

What's your point, Rong? To draw attention to mental illness? You're already doing that, trust me.

And who is supposed to care what happens in the NV state legislature, when most of us don't pay attention to our own state legislatures?
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Feb 7, 2013 - 08:48am PT
What's your point, Rong?


Well he's never that clear but I would guess that he is saying that anyone suspected of mental health issues should immediately be booted to the back of the bus.

Remember this guy? Goerge McGoverns running mate was branded as radioactive due to a history of depression. It is worth noting he went on to a long life of well met challenge and public service without ever whipping out an AK47 and masacring an entire school - I kid you not!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Eagleton


Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Feb 7, 2013 - 09:18am PT
In one discussion, someone noted that Obama, the dedicated Muslim, had discontinued the National Prayer Breakfast.

This morning, he participated in his 5th:

WA Post:

President Obama attended the annual National Prayer Breakfast in Washington, D.C. on Thursday. The event, first established by President Eisenhower in 1953, brings together a bipartisan group of political and religious leaders.
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 7, 2013 - 09:28am PT
Well I agree with you on DoddFrank, Banks, through the legalized political bribery which you support, were able to water down, obfuscate and circumnavigate most of the key objectives...too big to fail etc.

Thanks Jorroh
JE complains about the watered down and ridiculously complicated DoddFrank as being terrible, then votes for more Republicans that in turn screw things up even more for all of us, including him.

When these people ever learn, vote for your own good, not some BS propaganda you heard.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Feb 7, 2013 - 09:36am PT
One more Dem headed for the big house.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/sneed/18059047-452/sneed-exclusive-pending-jesse-jackson-jr-plea-deal-includes-significant-jail-time-source-says.html
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 7, 2013 - 09:38am PT
TGT
When are Bush and Cheney going to be hung for War Crimes and Treason??
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Feb 7, 2013 - 09:50am PT
Interesting piece by Greg Sargent on how the GOP has gotten themselves into a mess on the sequester:

There’s been a good deal of chatter to the effect that Republicans still retain leverage in the sequester fight, because some of them are willing to let the sequester happen.

Herein lies the fundamental weakness of the GOP position. The problem is that Republicans who care about defense are now on record claiming the sequester will threaten our national security. As Lindsey Graham put it yesterday: “I’m sure Iran is very supportive of sequestration.”


Which raises a question: If the sequester will help our enemies, and put the country at risk, shouldn’t Republicans be willing to discuss closing tax loopholes that benefit the rich and corporations — the same loopholes they were previously willing to entertain closing — to avoid it?


Senate Democrats are drawing up a plan to avert the sequester by limiting tax breaks for oil and gas exploration, nixing tax breaks for private equity employees who pay a lower capital gains tax, and other measures. The idea is to put pressure on Republicans to choose between protecting tax breaks for special interests on one side, and gutting defense and tanking the economy on the other.


This is a tough position to be in, as Politico reports, but it’s made worse by an inconvenient fact: If Republicans were to agree to closing loopholes, they would also get some of the spending cuts they want. In other words, the choice isn’t: Either give Dems what they want while getting nothing in return or let the sequester destroy the economy. Rather, the choice is: Reach a compromise that gives both sides some of what they want or let the sequester destroy the economy.


Republicans have dealt with this problem by pretending that Dems aren’t actually willing to cut spending. As John Boehner put it yesterday: “At some point, Washington has to deal with its spending problem.” But of course, Dems have not only agreed to cut spending; they have already accepted a good deal more in spending cuts than Republicans have agreed to in new revenues. And the plain fact is that Obama has reiterated that the same spending and entitlement cuts he offered in 2011 are still on the table, even irking his own base in the process.

Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Feb 7, 2013 - 09:52am PT
Overwhelming public support for background checks: The Quinnipac poll also finds that 92 percent of Americans, including 89 percent of Republicans, supports requiring a background check for all would be gun buyers.

Fifty six percent support banning assault weapons and high capacity magazine clips.

It’s often claimed that red state Dems face political pressures on guns that aren’t in line with national public opinion, but given the truly overwhelming support for universal background checks, is there really any chance it’s controversial anywhere?

Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Feb 7, 2013 - 09:53am PT
Poll shows Dems hold middle ground on immigration: A new Quinnipiac poll asks the immigration question in an interesting way:

Which comes closest to your view about illegal immigrants who are currently living in the United States? A) They should be allowed to stay in the United States and to eventually apply for US citizenship. B) They should be allowed to remain in the United States, but not be allowed to apply for U.S. citizenship. C) They should be required to leave the U.S.

Stay/citizenship: 56

Stay/not citizen: 10

Not stay: 30

Note that the poll gives the full range of options, including the one Republicans have been claiming is the “middle ground,” i.e., legal status with no citizenship. That “middle ground” is supported by 10 percent (add in deportation and it’s 40 percent), while citizenship is supported by 56 percent. Yup, Dems occupy the middle ground here.
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 7, 2013 - 09:55am PT
They kick the can down the road, then when it comes time to do something that they agreed to, they lie about it and blame it on the President.

It is their spending that is "out of control", not the President's, when are they going to be truthful about it, and do something rather than kick it farther down the road.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Feb 7, 2013 - 10:04am PT
Special moment, just for TGT.

BWA HA hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!
http://abcnews.go.com/US/mexico-republican-arrested-stalking-slashing-tires-political-rival/story?id=18119440
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 7, 2013 - 10:05am PT
41,000
Choke on that!

Has the Republican Party done anything good for anyone in the last 30 Years??
No, it's been all bad.
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 7, 2013 - 10:09am PT
Credit: Dr. F.
4 more years of terrorist/Republican ass kicking
Yea America
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Feb 7, 2013 - 10:11am PT
Has the Republican Party done anything good for anyone in the last 30 Years??
No, it's been all bad.

They increased the speed limit restrictions. Course you could argue that was not good. But I don't miss mandatory max 55mph speed limits.
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 7, 2013 - 10:13am PT
Clinton raised the speed limit
The Rethugulans liked it low, they could make more money gouging the populace and do illegal searches when everyone was a criminal (breaking the 55 mph speed limit)
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