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dirtbag

climber
Mar 18, 2014 - 04:22pm PT
Is your cousin's friend a taxidermist?
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Mar 18, 2014 - 04:27pm PT
Dirtbag wrote: Is your cousin's friend a taxidermist?

Holy sh#t that is funny.


Elcap...we were both half right:-).


"The Affordable Care Act expands the affordability, quality, and availability of private and public health insurance through consumer protections, regulations, subsidies, taxes, insurance exchanges, and other reforms."

Go to: http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-facts.php
Dave Kos

Social climber
Temecula
Mar 18, 2014 - 04:35pm PT
Elcap is right.

ACA expands Medicaid coverage, so more people get government insurance under ACA. But these are not "obamacare" policies, it is just Medicaid.

For those that buy their own policies, they are buying a private policy from a private insurer.

There is no distinct class of private policies that are "Obamacare" policies.

The websites like healthcare.gov were setup to facilitate the purchase of policies, but the policy one gets if they use the websites is no different than if someone bought it directly from the provider (e.g. Blue Cross)

There is no such thing as an "Obamacare insurance policy" - every policy has to comply with the rules of the ACA.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 18, 2014 - 04:36pm PT
The Affordable Health Care Act that mandates you to have health insurance. That insurance is almost exclusively private sector.

absolutely true

the ACA is all about "taking personal responsibility", a Conservative's supposed wet dream

go ahead, "repeal" the ACA

tell now over 10 million Americans they will no longer have health insurance because they can no longer stay on their parent's policy, or they are now denied because they had childhood asthma, or their monthly premium is going up because only one insurer is doing business in their state and there is no longer competition for your business

go ahead, repeal it

I dare ya, and while your at it repeal Social Security and Medicare, both "Socialistic"

just don't tell your parents you are going to do that or they will cut off your inheritance

Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Mar 18, 2014 - 04:42pm PT
Rather than repeal Obummercare, it's my opinion we should have a single payer system.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Mar 18, 2014 - 04:46pm PT
Dropline wrote: Rather than repeal Obummercare, it's my opinion we should have a single payer system.


We would if the republicans would be voted out or at least come into the 21 century.
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Mar 18, 2014 - 05:32pm PT
Sending DrF off the deep end is just so dam funny and easy.

HERE HERE!
bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Mar 18, 2014 - 06:35pm PT
http://freebeacon.com/obama-abbas-has-consistently-renounced-violence/


seriously, if even wapo is calling your foreign policy a "fantasy", you might as well milk it


war is peace, peace is war

winston smith is dead
bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Mar 18, 2014 - 06:37pm PT
meanwhile, back in our own hemisphere:

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2014/03/18/michael-fumento-meanwhile-in-venezuela/


change you can believe in...
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 18, 2014 - 06:48pm PT
keep sucking off the teat of Big Government, Booky

your salary, healthcare, and pension all courtesy of taxpayers and Big Government

oh, the irony, Booky
bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Mar 18, 2014 - 08:20pm PT
managing 1/6 of the economy is hard:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/03/18/carney_we_dont_have_specific_data_for_people_who_have_paid_obamacare_premiums.html


who knew?
bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Mar 18, 2014 - 08:20pm PT
again, who knew?

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-03-18/young-invincibles-are-killing-obamacare
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Mar 18, 2014 - 08:46pm PT
so Booky, tell us why you don't want young Americans to have healthcare?

because you are a prick?


by the way, youth signups are doing just fine so far:

Youth enrollment continued to expand, with 1.1 million people ages 18 to 34 signed up by March 1, an increase of 268,475 in a month, U.S. health officials said in a report. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-11/obamacare-deadline-looms-as-sign-ups-hit-4-2-million.html

but again, why don't you want young people to have health insurance?

you have it, through Big Government....why shouldn't they ...through private insurers?
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Mar 18, 2014 - 10:53pm PT
Bookworm should be banned, brings nothing to the table.

 What the hell is with that avatar/screen name? Non-stop mindlessness
bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Mar 19, 2014 - 07:17am PT
credit where credit is due (what's that about a broken clock?):

The Charter Conspirators
By Richard Cohen - March 18, 2014


In the war between the rich and the poor, I'm enlisting on the side of the underdog -- the rich. What a drubbing they've been taking! Across the nation, but particularly in cities such as New York and Washington, the rich are incessantly accused of being slyly manipulative and self-serving. For instance, they support charter schools. Apparently, there is nothing worse.

I am mystified. Charter schools are not private schools. They are free public schools that are open to any student, usually by lottery. Some very rich people support them, provide extra funds for special programs and, in return, get vilified for their efforts. One columnist, citing the pay package of charter-school CEOs, referred to a "gilded crusade," another to an "all-out campaign by the elite." You would think we're talking about the "gilded" and "elite" getting their own kids into some fancy school. Instead, they're helping poor children.

Take Carl Icahn. You know him as a corporate raider, which he is. Less well known is that he created and supports seven charter schools in New York City, all of them in the Bronx -- all of them with student bodies reflective of the city's poorest borough.

Or take the Harlem Village Academies. Katie Couric is on the board. So is Hugh Jackman, John Legend and Rupert Murdoch. It pays its CEO $499,000 annually, but this is private money and Harlem Village has been raising test scores -- in other words, giving student after student a better chance of succeeding. What's that worth?

"Giving back" is a tiresome cliche, but you'd be surprised how many people have made it a personal obligation. I've met Icahn just casually and yet I know a bit about him. We both attended an unheralded genius factory named Far Rockaway High School. (Three Nobel Prize winners!) He's just a product of the middle class who was fortunate enough to get a great public education and wants to re-create the conditions that made him a success. This is hardly a moral failing.

As always with the rich, they want things done their way. When it comes to schools, they want either no teachers union or a pleasantly pliable one. I understand. Charter schools are very tough on teachers -- a schoolroom version of survival of the fittest. The union is out to protect the weakest teachers, even miserable ones. Like the NRA, the union fears the slippery slope: Ban assault weapons and next it will be handguns. Fire a teacher for poor performance and next comes dismissal for something trivial.

When the rich insist that lower taxes would do wonders for the poor, the orphaned and the grievously widowed, I detect the faint aroma of self-interest. But when they plump for charter schools, the only ulterior motive you can find is that down the road, years from now, society will benefit and so, as night follows day, will they. I can live with that.

America has always had a love-hate relationship with its rich. But lately, there's been more hate than love.

Some of this is deserved -- tell me again what's moral about short selling stock and why should hedge-fund managers enjoy a lower tax rate than their secretaries? But some of it reflects middle-class stagnation and the widening gulf between the rich and everyone else. Bill de Blasio ran for mayor of New York promising to narrow the gap. He won going away, and the rest of the country has paid attention.

De Blasio seems cool on charter schools. He has said they have a "destructive impact" on the school system and in his campaign demanded that they pay rent for using public-school facilities. As a result, charters have become emblematic of the "two cities" mantra -- one really rich, the other disproportionately poor. The rich are characterized as having their way with the school system for their own benefit. The hostility is so illogical it has to be based on raw resentment. Pardon me for suspecting that some charter-school critics would rather hurt the rich than help the poor.

New York is witnessing progressivism run amok. So far the damage has been minimal and the pushback has been fierce -- but charters are in a real fight. Say what you will about New York or Washington charters, by the usual measurements -- test scores, etc. -- they are succeeding, some of them stunningly so. Maybe in time the gains will prove ephemeral and failure is just over the horizon. Still, that's better than the old system. With it, failure was a certainty.


cohenr@washpost.com
(c) 2014, Washington Post Writers Group

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rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Mar 19, 2014 - 07:43am PT
bookworm...there havn't been any definitive pros or cons to the charter school system with mixed results...Lets throw all the special ed kids into the charter program and compare notes further down the road..to say charter schools are better than the current public school system isn't saying much...Are the Koch brothers behind this one...?
Sketch

Trad climber
H-ville
Mar 19, 2014 - 08:10am PT
There is no distinct class of private policies that are "Obamacare" policies.

The websites like healthcare.gov were setup to facilitate the purchase of policies, but the policy one gets if they use the websites is no different than if someone bought it directly from the provider (e.g. Blue Cross)

There is no such thing as an "Obamacare insurance policy" - every policy has to comply with the rules of the ACA.

What about the policies that were cancelled (by law) and then later grandfathered in?

My family has two of those policies. We found similar coverage through the ACA website, with a 60-70 percent increase in premiums. I even plugged in the lowest (non-medicaid) income, just to see the premium. It was $200/mo. more than our existing premiums.
bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Mar 19, 2014 - 08:22am PT
"the only guarantees in life are death and taxes"...and the fact that government intervention increases costs...and the fact that these costs are borne primarily by the poor:


http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/201136-obamacare-premiums-are-about-to-skyrocket


hopenchange


bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Mar 19, 2014 - 11:09am PT
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2014/03/17/are-obamacares-tax-credits-harmless-the-little-understood-dark-side-of-the-subsidies/


"dark side"? that implies a light side...anybody seen it?


hopenchange
bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Mar 19, 2014 - 01:54pm PT
the greatest law...evah!


so great, dems passed it entirely along party lines (never before done with a law so consequential)

so great, dems passed it without even knowing what was in it ("we have to pass the bill to find out what's in it")

so great, barry lied about it...on tape...repeatedly

so great, barry has unconstitutionally rewritten it dozens of times to provide waivers and extensions to avoid the consequences

so great, it has increased the number of people without health care

so great, barry's latest unconstitutional revision categorizes the law itself as a "hardship" and an excuse for not following the law

so great, barry has spent MILLIONS trying to persuade the key constituency to sign up

so great, barry has now turned to bribery to persuade the key constituence to sign up:


http://www.marketwatch.com/story/cash-prizes-for-signing-up-for-obamacare-2014-03-14?link=sfmw_sm


hopenchange
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