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healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Jan 4, 2013 - 03:40pm PT
And in what way is that even vaguely "off base"?
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Jan 4, 2013 - 03:43pm PT
Because you would be prosecuting the null set.

C'mon now John, you don't really believe that do you?
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Jan 4, 2013 - 03:48pm PT
It's a plumbing problem.

Some cities, especially older eastern ones, (I'm surprised PDX has this issue), use combined storm drain / sewage systems. There's only one set of plumbing and when it rains it overloads the treatment plants.

In places like Houston, this happens and not due to a plumbing problem. Sometimes there is just so much precipitation, they only option is to let effluent out. In Houston, there is a massive sewage system. There are endless bayous and ditches to control water. And the streets are designed to carry water. (That's what happens when one builds a city on swamp land). Still, when the big ones come in in the form of big rain (hurricane or not) overflow is the norm.
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 4, 2013 - 05:10pm PT
Hey Crimper
I've just read a bunch about Lead in our environment and crime.
Mostly from lead in gasoline that has been phased out, and which has trended with violent crime rates
Are you crime people talking about this issue
If not, I can put up some links
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Jan 4, 2013 - 05:17pm PT
I've seen it. It's interesting stuff, but it fails to answer lots of questions. For example, crime has started rising in the last year or so. Has the amount of lead done the same? Given the stuff I saw, they say it's a 23 yr lag so this means that lead increased about 23 yrs back.

Another thing it cannot explain is this - if lead is a constant in some environments as they say, then why in those environments aren't everyone offending? It's still just some.

And the connection they've drawn is with arrests, not offending. Research is CLEAR that offending does not equal arrest. Many other things go into it.

And, the connection they've drawn is with 'street crime' only. What of all the white collar criminal? These guys do more damage (monetarily at least some would argue) than street criminals. Does lead affect them too?

I think it's cool work, and like all the other stuff likely can explain a small part of it, but we'll likely never find the one big explanation. Still, I'm going to keep my eye on it. And I'm happy to see innovative approaches being taken.

Happy to see any links you have to share - I likely missed some frigging around deeply with intimate partner violence the last week or so (research, not personal experience).
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 4, 2013 - 05:24pm PT
null set

I googled it just to see what the hell it was and i don't get it. Bush cheney and rummey are not a set of numbers that equal zero.... unless you are refering to morality....... but anyway there is a clear case for prosecution that equals more than zero.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jan 4, 2013 - 05:24pm PT
we are, on the other hand there are PLENTY of libs rolling around in private jets like al gore.

false equivalence oh intellectually gifted one

that the best you got?

you better be able to piss in the tall grass with the big dogs here

Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 4, 2013 - 05:25pm PT
Interesting information to the debate that I haven't heard
Thanks CG
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Jan 4, 2013 - 06:07pm PT
Back to Houston,

Texas and other areas have a problem in that they are as flat as a billiard table and both stormwater and sewage must be pumped.

This is what happens when there's a power failure at a stormwater pump station in an improperly designed system, setting up a hydraulic shock that propagates thru a storm drain system at 1100 fps.

Wait for the returning reflected wave at the end



this is about a 12' diameter storm drain.

(Designed by public servants?)
monolith

climber
albany,ca
Jan 4, 2013 - 06:38pm PT
I guess we are not going to hear from TGT why Healyje was 'off-base'.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Jan 4, 2013 - 06:42pm PT
He was extrapolating from very real issues with a municipal sewage system to the EPA's rules that declare mud puddles on privately owned property

"navigable waterways"

and so under their purview to regulate
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 4, 2013 - 06:42pm PT
40501!!!
Wah Whooo

Credit: Dr. F.

monolith

climber
albany,ca
Jan 4, 2013 - 06:48pm PT
TGT is funny. I guess it wasn't a 'plumbing problem' but a 'I hate the EPA' problem. I doubt there would be much complaining from landowners about that project.
Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Jan 4, 2013 - 06:51pm PT
TGT and healyje both had points.


it just gets lost in the libtard-repug hate cycle so nothing good gets done by the elected officials.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Jan 4, 2013 - 06:58pm PT
try this

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=richard+windsor+epa
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 4, 2013 - 06:59pm PT
yeah I went for a dip in the willamete river and I'm glad i didn't know about the big turd purge at the time! Hell i'm just a damn touron, I'd hate to be the poor bastards living down stream.
monolith

climber
albany,ca
Jan 4, 2013 - 07:08pm PT
Nothing there about the Portland project, TGT.

BTW, the Portland project was a combined system.

Let's face it. You saw EPA was mentioned and your brain went numb with government hate.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jan 4, 2013 - 07:19pm PT
Let's face it. You saw EPA was mentioned and your brain went numb with government hate.

Yes!

Because if only stupid regulations like clean air were eliminated, all would be better!


Too bad it was Republican Nixon who you can blame for the hated EPA.


Say, where did that new Honey Boo Boo go?


Get your Tea Party ass back here, bubba
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Jan 4, 2013 - 07:29pm PT
Using the Nixon era and Nixon as a measuring stick along with the creation of the EPA and the endangered species act , our current republican party looks pretty sleazy and backwards..It's really sad that our political system has de-evolved into such a desperate state of affairs thanks to the successful power grab of the rich and powerful...Nixon makes Obama look like a John Bircher....RJ
locker

Social climber
state of Kumbaya...
Jan 4, 2013 - 07:33pm PT

The Republicans are doing a fuking GREAT job of making their party look really, really, fuking, BAD!!!...


EDITED:

Not ALL of them of course...

This fat fuk is pretty COOL...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/nj-gov-christie-blasts-fellow-republican-boehner-18116339
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