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dirtbag

climber
Jan 3, 2013 - 03:25pm PT
...except we have more boobie shots.
johnboy

Trad climber
Can't get here from there
Jan 3, 2013 - 04:23pm PT
......and most of us do our jobs.
bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Jan 4, 2013 - 03:44am PT
"I would cheerfully pay the amount of tax I do at the moment if I didn't pay it to the government."

so says bruce dickinson...yep, THAT bruce dickinson...of IRON MAIDEN

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324640104578161103488741518.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEFTTopBucket
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 4, 2013 - 05:20am PT
Of course Bookworm. He would much rather pay it to his pimp and drug dealer like any good libertarian.
Skeptimistic

Mountain climber
La Mancha
Jan 4, 2013 - 08:17am PT
"I would cheerfully pay the amount of tax I do at the moment if I didn't pay it to the government."

Brilliant point! Just think, without taxes we wouldn't have to support our military, our infrastructure, education, Medicare, VA and so many countless other things we take for granted in everyday life.

Instead we'd likely be living in some totalitarian nightmare governed by a despot and herded about by thugs. Yes, that would be infinitely better...
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Jan 4, 2013 - 08:38am PT
Boehner's crybaby schtick is just plain weird. I can't imagine that his emotion is actually genuine each time it happens, which leaves me to believe it's nothing but a schtick.

Aside from some of the Tali-Partiers, he's pretty popular in the House...I wonder what they think about his penchant for crying. I thought Repubs had more sac than that....what would John Wayne think of Boehner?
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 4, 2013 - 09:28am PT
Battles of the Budget
By PAUL KRUGMAN
Published: January 3, 2013 NY Times

The centrist fantasy of a Grand Bargain on the budget never had a chance. Even if some kind of bargain had supposedly been reached, key players would soon have reneged on the deal — probably the next time a Republican occupied the White House.

For the reality is that our two major political parties are engaged in a fierce struggle over the future shape of American society. Democrats want to preserve the legacy of the New Deal and the Great Society — Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid — and add to them what every other advanced country has: a more or less universal guarantee of essential health care. Republicans want to roll all of that back, making room for drastically lower taxes on the wealthy. Yes, it’s essentially a class war.

The fight over the fiscal cliff was just one battle in that war. It ended, arguably, in a tactical victory for Democrats. The question is whether it was a Pyrrhic victory that set the stage for a larger defeat.

Why do I say that it was a tactical victory? Mainly because of what didn’t happen: There were no benefit cuts.

This was by no means a foregone conclusion. In 2011, the Obama administration was reportedly willing to raise the age of Medicare eligibility, a terrible and cruel policy idea. This time around, it was willing to cut Social Security benefits by changing the formula for cost-of-living adjustments, a less terrible idea that would nonetheless have imposed a lot of hardship — and probably have been politically disastrous as well. In the end, however, it didn’t happen. And progressives, always worried that President Obama seems much too willing to compromise about fundamentals, breathed a sigh of relief.

There were also some actual positives from a progressive point of view. Expanded unemployment benefits were given another year to run, a huge benefit to many families and a significant boost to our economic prospects (because this is money that will be spent, and hence help preserve jobs). Other benefits to lower-income families were given another five years — although, unfortunately, the payroll tax break was allowed to expire, which will hurt both working families and job creation.

The biggest progressive gripe about the legislation is that Mr. Obama extracted less revenue from the affluent than expected — about $600 billion versus $800 billion over the next decade. In perspective, however, this isn’t that big a deal. Put it this way: A reasonable estimate is that gross domestic product over the next 10 years will be around $200 trillion. So if the revenue take had matched expectations, it would still have amounted to only 0.4 percent of G.D.P.; as it turned out, this was reduced to 0.3 percent. Either way, it wouldn’t make much difference in the fights over revenue versus spending still to come.

Oh, and not only did Republicans vote for a tax increase for the first time in decades, the overall result of the tax changes now taking effect — which include new taxes associated with Obamacare as well as the new legislation — will be a significant reduction in income inequality, with the top 1 percent and even more so the top 0.1 percent taking a much bigger hit than middle-income families.

So why are many progressives — myself included — feeling very apprehensive? Because we’re worried about the confrontations to come.

According to the normal rules of politics, Republicans should have very little bargaining power at this point. With Democrats holding the White House and the Senate, the G.O.P. can’t pass legislation; and since the biggest progressive policy priority of recent years, health reform, is already law, Republicans wouldn’t seem to have many bargaining chips.

But the G.O.P. retains the power to destroy, in particular by refusing to raise the debt limit — which could cause a financial crisis. And Republicans have made it clear that they plan to use their destructive power to extract major policy concessions.

Now, the president has said that he won’t negotiate on that basis, and rightly so. Threatening to hurt tens of millions of innocent victims unless you get your way — which is what the G.O.P. strategy boils down to — shouldn’t be treated as a legitimate political tactic.

But will Mr. Obama stick to his anti-blackmail position as the moment of truth approaches? He blinked during the 2011 debt limit confrontation. And the last few days of the fiscal cliff negotiations were also marked by a clear unwillingness on his part to let the deadline expire. Since the consequences of a missed deadline on the debt limit would potentially be much worse, this bodes ill for administration resolve in the clinch.

So, as I said, in a tactical sense the fiscal cliff ended in a modest victory for the White House. But that victory could all too easily turn into defeat in just a few weeks.

bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Jan 4, 2013 - 10:59am PT
a liberal's dream...something that saves the environment (allegedly--the mercury that is a critical ingredient for cfls isn't very "green") and kills people!

http://commcgi.cc.stonybrook.edu/am2/publish/General_University_News_2/SBU_Study_Reveals_Harmful_Effects_of_CFL_Bulbs_to_Skin.shtml

we need a law that requires all liberals to use alternative energy and cfls and lets the rest of us use fossil fuels and good old fashioned light bulbs
bookworm

Social climber
Falls Church, VA
Jan 4, 2013 - 11:01am PT
i thought libs were stupid for declaring breathing a cause of pollution...now, they want to declare water a pollutant!

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/cuccinelli-epa-lawsuit-virginia/2013/01/03/id/469999
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jan 4, 2013 - 11:07am PT
No single American has sucked off the teat of the Nanny State as well as Bookworm has.

He is employed by the government

His income comes from the taxpayers

His healthcare plan is contributed to and administered by the government

His retirement fund is contributed to and administered by the government.

He is wholly dependent on the tax payer and the government.

How simply awful it most be to be Bookworm, and what an oxymoron of a name for him.
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 4, 2013 - 11:14am PT
Do Republicans have a stupid pill problem??
jghedge

climber
Jan 4, 2013 - 11:33am PT
"we need a law that requires all liberals to use alternative energy and cfls and lets the rest of us use fossil fuels and good old fashioned light bulbs"

Passed as a rider along with the bill requiring whoever voted for Bush to pay for Iraq
Gary

Social climber
Right outside of Delacroix
Jan 4, 2013 - 12:07pm PT
None is so blind as he who will not see. Even Helen Keller could see the truth. Not much has changed since she wrote this now that the minor reforms of the New Deal are being repealed.

The country is governed for the richest, for the corporations, the bankers, the land speculators, and for the exploiters of labour. Surely we must free men and women together before we can free women. The majority of mankind are working people. So long as their fair demands -- the ownership and control of their lives and livelihood -- are set at naught, we can have neither men's rights nor women's rights. The majority of mankind are ground down by industrial oppression in order that the small remnant may live in ease. How can women hope to help themselves while we and our brothers are helpless against the powerful organizations which modern parties represent and which contrive to rule the people? They rule the people because they own the means of physical life, land, and tools, and the nourishers of intellectual life, the press, the church, and the school. You say that the conduct of the woman suffragists is being disgracefully misrepresented by the British press. Here in America the leading newspapers misrepresent in every possible way the struggles of toiling men and women who seek relief. News that reflects ill upon the employers is skillfully concealed -- news of dreadful conditions under which labourers are forced to produce, news of thousands of men maimed in mills and mines and left without compensation, news of famines and strikes, news of thousands of women driven to a life of shame, news of little children compelled to labour before their hands are ready to drop their toys. Only here and there in a small and as yet uninfluential paper is the truth told about the workman and the fearful burdens under which he staggers.
dirtbag

climber
Jan 4, 2013 - 12:54pm PT
Suck it bookworm.

You lost.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 4, 2013 - 02:30pm PT
Passed as a rider along with the bill requiring whoever voted for Bush to pay for Iraq


Interesting idea but too much along the lines of how Book worm likes to see things work.


How about if you were to simply prosecute those who caused the war under willful false pretense?
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Jan 4, 2013 - 02:52pm PT
How about if you were to simply prosecute those who caused the war under willful false pretense?

Because you would be prosecuting the null set.

John
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Jan 4, 2013 - 02:53pm PT
bookworm: i thought libs were stupid for declaring breathing a cause of pollution...now, they want to declare water a pollutant!

Stormwater runoff in many locales IS a pollutant.

Here in PDX big storms flushed tons of raw sewage into the Willamette River an average of 50 times per year. In order to stop it it we had to spend a billion dollars to bore a big tunnel for holding sewage runoff under each side of the river. The west side had 55 overflow sources which are now captured in the 4 mile westside tunnel. The eastside sports a 6 mile tunnel with a similar number of overflow sources. The Willamette now runs clean into the Columbia river all year round.



The assertion the EPA is attempting to regulate 'water' as a pollutant in this case is a typical rightwing media sham - i.e. sh#t swallowed with gusto by those lacking the experience and inclination to think for themselves. The EPA is attempting to mitigate the pollutant loads carried by storm runoff; that cities balk at the infrastructure costs is understandable. Bummer we couldn't use some of the trillions flushed down a hole in the desert in two unnecessary republican wars to put folks back to work protecting our rivers here at home.

This sort of thing, and the two unnecessary wars, are exactly what's wrong with republicans.
dirtbag

climber
Jan 4, 2013 - 03:11pm PT
^^^^^^Great post^^^^^^^^
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Jan 4, 2013 - 03:30pm PT
Except H is off base on this one.

It's a plumbing problem.

Some cities, especialy older eastern ones, (I'm suprised PDX has this issue), use combined storm drain / sewage systems. There's only one set of plumbing and when it rains it overloads the treatment plants.

prickle

Gym climber
globe,az
Jan 4, 2013 - 03:34pm PT
"Passed as a rider along with the bill requiring whoever voted for Bush to pay for Iraq"

we are, on the other hand there are PLENTY of libs rolling around in private jets like al gore.
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