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Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Mar 8, 2014 - 11:46am PT
Get rid of republicans like they did in California and this is what happens...success.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/07/opinion/egan-jerry-browns-revenge.html?_r=0


We need to do this on a national level.



HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Mar 8, 2014 - 11:46am PT
I, too, hate the American government and American people while living in a national park for 40 years
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Mar 8, 2014 - 11:50am PT
Yah Bob,, California has the highest murder rates of any state these days.

SUCCESS! And since its been a swarm of Fornians into Vegas, it is Nevadas highest murder rate too. SUCCESS!
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 8, 2014 - 11:53am PT
Inductive reasoning Ron?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Mar 8, 2014 - 12:05pm PT
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Does-California-Really-Have-a-Budget-Surplus__Bay-Area.html



The TRUTH about CA SUCCESS!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^from NBC, Bay area new mind you..
dirtbag

climber
Mar 8, 2014 - 12:09pm PT
Yes Ron, we do.

That clip was dated Jan 2013.

Try again.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Mar 8, 2014 - 12:10pm PT
Right Ron...http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murder-rates-nationally-and-state#MRord
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Mar 8, 2014 - 12:16pm PT
"Try again."


Better yet...


"Oh shut the f*#k up."
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Mar 8, 2014 - 12:18pm PT
Ron punishment is living in his own skin...pretty sad.

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Mar 8, 2014 - 12:20pm PT
According to the LAO, the surplus us based solely on assumptions.

So have CA taxes gone down?

Are all CA residents getting the free health care yet?

And why the exodus from that state to other states?

Inquiring minds want to know.




edit: And Bob,, per capita i see. Ok perhaps ill phrase it as the most dangerous cities then? Would that be better.?


And Bob ,, Why do you live elsewhere?
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Mar 8, 2014 - 12:26pm PT
Ron...you are ignorant beyond words.


"Who Moves In and Out?
Here are the basic facts. In 2011, 562,000 people left California, and 468,000 came, according to the Censusís American Community Survey. That means 120 people moved out of California for every 100 people who moved in. Out-migration reached its peak in 2005, when 160 people moved out of California for every 100 people who moved in. The California exodus rose with the housing bubble and subsided in the recession. Lower home values in 2008-2011 made California more affordable, encouraging in-migration and discouraging out-migration, as well as pushing some California borrowers underwater, further discouraging out-migration."
moosedrool

climber
lost, far away from Poland
Mar 8, 2014 - 12:28pm PT
That's it!

I am moving to Nevada.

Ron, another Democrat is moving to your state. SCARY!

;)

Moose
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Mar 8, 2014 - 12:29pm PT
Ron...do a little basic research before spewing your bullshit/hate.

Wrong again.

http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/neighborhoods/crime-rates/top100dangerous2013/


Ron..my wife and I are thinking of moving to CA...we live in a very progressive state now (Colorado)now. What is your point??
dirtbag

climber
Mar 8, 2014 - 12:29pm PT
Yes ROn, CA was a mess.

But unemployment is down, housing prices are up, and we have a surplus because of new taxes, which were enacted by popular vote and which no one seems much inclined to repeal.

Things are better than 3 or 4 years ago.

And pretty much all economic projections/estimates are based on assumptions. So what?

Why do you care?
Tvash

climber
Seattle
Mar 8, 2014 - 12:39pm PT
Who got laid last night? Ya, me neither. But I remain hopeful for this afternoon.

The whole bigot thing - you can take that anywhere you want. Obama was a bigot before he changed his mind on gay marriage. Our own former governor Gregoire was a bigot before she changed hers. I was bigot before I changed mine (a while ago, but still, I was raised Catholic and all).

Or maybe not. Maybe people have to think about changes that are unfamiliar in the beginning before they make a change themselves. Isn't that how it all works?

Regarding equal marriage - the important thing is what people believe now - not 1, 5, 10 years ago. You don't move forward by living in the past. If the GOP can be blamed for anything here - it's for hanging on to the issue for longer than the Dems, but if you go back far enough, neither party was much of a friend to 6% (or whatever it is) of our citizens in the equal rights category.

I applaud the GOP for changing its mind - and I do see that happening in fits and starts, regarding this equal rights issue. Yup, they've been forced by the DOJ and recent court decisions to give up, but how many drunks have been forced to deal with their sh#t because of a failed marriage or DUIs?

That you get there is more important than how you got there.

If some psychopathic pundits wish to re-write the history of how gays won the right to marry in the US and whitewash the last refuge of that bigotry - d Fundies, and the party they supported, I'll take that over the alternative. I would add, however, that if you find yourself reading and disseminating that sludge, ask yourself - would you serve pork rinds and hot pockets at a dinner party? Cuz that's the kind of crap your serving up to your brain and spirit. Ugly is ugly, and the whole FOX news thing is the media equivalent of a fleet of junkers on your front lawn.

Feed your brain and spirit something healthier and truer. If you're a conservative, there's plenty of alternatives that actually do real journalism - the Economist, WSJ, etc. Your life will get instantly better.
dirtbag

climber
Mar 8, 2014 - 12:40pm PT
A large core of the Republicans will never change on that issue.
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Mar 8, 2014 - 12:41pm PT
2012 murder rates per 100,000 people ranked by states (highest to lowest) See: http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/5tabledatadecpdf

If you don't count 17 of our states, then California does have the highest murder rate.

Louisiana 10.8
Mississippi 7.4
Alabama 7.1
Michigan 7.0
South Carolina 6.9
Missouri 6.5
Maryland 6.3
Delaware 6.2
Tennessee 6.0
Arkansas 5.9
Georgia 5.9
Illinois 5.8
Oklahoma 5.7
New Mexico 5.6
Arizona 5.5
Pennsylvania 5.4
Florida 5.2
California 5.0

(Nevada is further down the list with a rate of 4.5 per 100,000)


edit: seeing additional posts when gathering this "edit: And Bob,, per capita i see. Ok perhaps ill phrase it as the most dangerous cities then? Would that be better.?"

Per capita is a rate. A rate is the appropriate way to look at these things as states have very different populations. So a rate per 100,000 - a per capita (per head) is the way to go.

Most dangerous city? Many ways to define this. Which city has highest murder rate? Not going to take the time to compile it - try this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate. California is still not #1, and Nevada is not a contender. Sorry.

Double dog edit: you may want to check out the caution against ranking on both the FBI and wiki page (and my own work). Rankings hide a lot of important factors (e.g., age distribution of population) that influence murder rates. Still, as very crude measures, these are the numbers.

Triple dog edit: Reno's murder rate is 3.0 per 100,000, down from last year's rate of 6.2 per 100,000.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Mar 8, 2014 - 12:46pm PT
State City Population Violent Crime Murder and Non-Negligent Manslaughter Forcible Rape Robbery Aggravated Assault Property Crime Burglary Larceny-Theft Motor Vehicle Theft
New Mexico Albuquerque 553,684 749.7 7.4 50.2 197.2 494.9 5,367.3 1,205.9 3,666.0 495.4
California Anaheim 344,526 371.2 4.4 23.8 127.7 215.4 2,922.9 465.9 2,039.0 418.0
Alaska Anchorage 299,143 828.7 5.0 101.3 163.1 559.3 3,524.4 387.1 2,859.5 277.8
Texas Arlington 379,295 503.3 4.5 35.6 140.3 323.0 3,983.4 934.1 2,798.9 250.5
Georgia Atlanta 437,041 1,379.0 19.0 25.9 520.8 813.4 6,533.5 1,416.8 3,938.3 1,178.4
Colorado Aurora 336,952 425.3 8.6 53.1 143.3 220.2 2,985.3 531.5 2,187.3 266.5
Texas Austin 832,901 408.8 3.7 25.1 117.4 262.6 5,219.3 869.7 4,071.7 277.9
California Bakersfield 355,696 542.3 9.6 16.0 196.0 320.8 4,991.3 1,404.0 2,682.1 905.3
Maryland Baltimore 625,474 1,405.2 34.9 50.4 576.4 743.6 4,660.3 1,242.3 2,781.4 636.6
Massachusetts Boston 630,648 835.0 9.0 39.5 302.9 483.6 2,909.5 527.2 2,124.8 257.5
New York Buffalo 262,434 1,288.7 18.3 52.6 528.9 688.9 5,126.6 1,515.0 3,189.8 421.8
North Carolina Charlotte-Mecklenburg 808,504 647.9 6.4 27.6 222.4 391.5 4,030.5 959.9 2,806.2 264.4
Illinois Chicago 2,708,382 N/A 18.5 N/A 497.6 453.1 4,152.5 839.9 2,684.9 627.7
Ohio Cincinnati 296,204 974.7 15.5 63.5 582.4 313.3 6,135.3 1,851.1 3,912.8 371.4
Ohio Cleveland 393,781 1,383.8 21.3 92.2 825.8 444.4 6,173.2 2,473.5 2,744.7 955.1
Colorado Colorado Springs 432,287 455.3 4.2 82.8 121.0 247.3 4,140.5 842.3 2,881.4 416.9
Texas Corpus Christi 312,565 658.1 5.1 58.9 120.0 474.1 4,498.6 784.5 3,572.4 141.7
Texas Dallas 1,241,549 675.0 12.4 39.1 329.7 293.7 4,373.6 1,296.0 2,508.8 568.8
Colorado Denver 628,545 615.9 6.2 59.8 185.3 364.5 3,713.8 816.0 2,313.9 583.9
Michigan Detroit 707,096 2,122.9 54.6 62.9 684.9 1,321.0 5,792.1 1,907.5 2,258.3 1,626.4
Texas El Paso 675,536 423.2 3.4 27.2 69.7 322.9 2,429.3 270.3 1,987.3 171.7
Indiana Fort Wayne 256,625 362.8 8.6 36.2 174.2 143.8 3,707.7 789.1 2,756.2 162.5
Texas Fort Worth 770,101 587.5 5.7 50.8 166.2 364.8 4,222.0 1,096.2 2,811.1 314.8
California Fresno 506,011 543.1 10.1 10.7 200.6 321.7 5,086.3 1,166.4 3,069.9 850.0
North Carolina Greensboro 276,134 563.1 7.6 25.4 201.4 328.8 4,368.9 1,211.4 2,952.6 205.0
Nevada Henderson 263,469 168.9 1.5 23.2 65.3 78.9 2,009.7 534.4 1,285.2 190.2
Texas Houston 2,177,273 992.5 10.0 30.5 431.0 521.0 4,945.5 1,223.1 3,122.2 600.3
Indiana Indianapolis 838,650 1,185.5 11.6 52.0 410.4 711.5 5,592.1 1,761.6 3,282.1 548.4
Florida Jacksonville 840,660 617.3 11.1 40.6 163.1 402.5 4,124.6 907.9 3,021.8 195.0
New Jersey Jersey City 251,554 734.2 4.4 17.9 349.8 362.1 2,178.1 566.9 1,308.3 302.9
Missouri Kansas City 464,073 1,263.2 22.6 53.0 354.9 832.6 5,525.4 1,500.6 3,251.2 773.6
Nevada Las Vegas 1,479,393 784.0 5.1 40.3 258.5 480.1 3,138.2 961.2 1,725.2 451.9
Kentucky Lexington 302,332 352.6 4.0 33.7 200.4 114.4 4,431.9 944.0 3,188.9 299.0
Nebraska Lincoln 264,175 397.5 1.1 68.9 74.6 252.9 3,850.1 611.7 3,120.7 117.7
California Long Beach 469,893 575.7 6.8 24.5 263.7 280.7 3,007.3 808.5 1,639.1 559.7
California Los Angeles 3,855,122 481.1 7.8 24.3 233.0 216.1 2,269.1 425.1 1,452.8 391.3
Kentucky Louisville Metro 666,200 598.8 9.3 27.5 209.2 352.7 4,293.9 1,051.9 2,913.7 328.3
Tennessee Memphis 657,436 1,750.3 20.2 63.9 514.4 1,151.7 6,312.9 1,912.7 3,948.5 451.6
Arizona Mesa 451,391 399.7 3.1 38.1 103.9 254.5 3,132.5 593.9 2,342.1 196.5
Florida Miami 414,327 1,172.0 16.7 15.7 505.9 633.8 5,375.2 1,027.0 3,693.9 654.3
Wisconsin Milwaukee 599,395 1,294.5 15.2 38.4 505.0 735.9 5,043.1 1,164.0 3,077.8 801.3
Minnesota Minneapolis 390,240 992.2 10.0 103.3 440.5 438.4 4,960.8 1,225.4 3,269.8 465.6
Alabama Mobile 251,516 522.4 12.7 17.9 182.9 308.9 4,812.0 1,111.7 3,480.9 219.5
Tennessee Nashville 620,886 1,216.0 10.0 50.1 277.7 878.3 4,195.9 923.8 3,041.6 230.5
Louisiana New Orleans 362,874 815.2 53.2 37.5 293.5 431.0 3,772.4 943.3 2,218.7 610.4
New York New York 8,289,415 639.3 5.1 14.0 243.7 376.5 1,722.2 224.8 1,398.6 98.8
New Jersey Newark 278,906 1,154.5 34.4 19.7 708.5 391.9 3,656.8 768.7 1,467.5 1,420.6
California Oakland 399,487 1,993.3 31.8 67.8 1,085.9 807.8 6,594.0 1,544.0 3,303.7 1,746.2
Oklahoma Oklahoma City 595,607 919.1 14.3 65.3 203.0 636.5 5,941.8 1,654.4 3,553.0 734.4
Nebraska Omaha 417,970 594.5 9.8 44.7 195.0 345.0 4,588.4 792.2 3,139.0 657.2
Pennsylvania Philadelphia 1,538,957 1,160.1 21.5 57.2 518.8 562.6 3,703.6 780.0 2,507.7 415.9
Arizona Phoenix 1,485,509 636.7 8.3 37.4 236.7 354.3 4,091.3 1,205.8 2,401.7 483.8
Pennsylvania Pittsburgh 312,112 752.0 13.1 15.1 363.3 360.4 3,425.4 812.8 2,438.2 174.3
Texas Plano 273,816 130.7 0.4 20.1 40.2 70.1 2,356.7 399.9 1,841.7 115.0
Oregon Portland 598,037 517.2 3.3 38.6 158.9 316.4 5,092.3 747.6 3,745.3 599.5
North Carolina Raleigh 420,594 423.2 4.0 26.9 158.1 234.2 3,276.1 721.8 2,332.9 221.4
California Riverside 313,532 443.0 5.1 24.2 164.9 248.8 3,450.4 716.7 2,262.9 470.8
California Sacramento 476,557 738.6 7.1 26.2 254.1 451.2 4,189.8 938.8 2,548.9 702.1
Texas San Antonio 1,380,123 503.1 6.4 39.8 135.1 321.8 5,989.9 1,135.3 4,393.3 461.3
California San Diego 1,338,477 413.1 3.5 22.7 113.3 273.5 2,368.4 440.9 1,433.6 493.8
California San Francisco 820,363 704.2 8.4 13.2 424.7 257.9 4,741.6 648.1 3,442.6 650.8
California San Jose 976,459 363.3 4.6 28.7 123.7 206.3 2,914.9 533.2 1,484.8 897.0
California Santa Ana 332,482 401.2 3.3 16.5 162.7 218.7 2,222.4 310.4 1,437.4 474.6
Washington Seattle 626,865 597.6 3.7 19.0 226.7 348.2 5,093.8 1,040.6 3,485.9 567.3
Missouri St. Louis 318,667 1,776.5 35.5 62.4 557.9 1,120.6 6,902.2 1,564.6 4,242.7 1,094.9
Minnesota St. Paul 290,700 722.7 4.5 57.8 226.4 434.1 4,091.2 1,083.6 2,386.7 620.9
California Stockton 299,105 1,548.0 23.7 30.1 520.2 973.9 5,101.2 1,476.4 2,788.0 836.8
Florida Tampa 350,758 616.4 6.6 12.3 163.4 434.2 2,835.9 705.9 1,956.9 173.1
Ohio Toledo 286,020 1,171.9 13.6 60.1 393.7 704.5 N/A 2,352.6 N/A 466.4
Arizona Tucson 531,535 724.5 8.1 44.0 237.0 435.3 N/A 944.6 N/A 470.1
Oklahoma Tulsa 398,904 990.0 10.5 79.2 266.2 634.0 5,216.0 1,563.0 3,048.9 604.2
Virginia Virginia Beach 447,588 169.4 4.7 13.0 72.8 78.9 2,617.8 351.4 2,158.7 107.7
District of Columbia Washington 632,323 1,177.9 13.9 37.3 589.1 537.5 4,628.0 556.5 3,510.2 561.3
Kansas Wichita 386,409 742.5 6.0 59.0 128.1 549.4 5,452.8 1,014.2 3,967.6 471.0
Criticism of ranking crime data[edit]






^^^^^^^^^ CA is listed 12 times, more than any state.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Mar 8, 2014 - 12:47pm PT
Callie...Ron is wrong no matter how you look at it. :-)
philo

Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
Mar 8, 2014 - 12:48pm PT
TeaBagatarians, RepugniCants and other "Conservatives" don't trust facts.
Let them eat sound bites.
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