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k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Dec 9, 2012 - 06:50pm PT
KKK referred to herself as a she way back in the early days

Interesting. Especially because she writes like a boy.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Dec 9, 2012 - 07:14pm PT
TGT and the rest of his neanderthal-thinking-republican-tribe just don't get it...you lost in so many ways it is hard for you to digest...you are done. Toast!!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/09/gay-marriage-poll_n_2267594.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 07:39pm PT
We need TGT, KKK, BluRing, fATTY, JE, Haukeyed, rong and all the others to keep up their fight, that provides our perspective on the World Crisis in check,
without them telling us how wrong They are over and over, we would lose our perspective on the challenges we face, and how really f*#ked up their side is

So Thank you right wingers, without you, life would be too easy, and so many things would be better in our world, thanks for screwing everything up, and giving us something to fight against.

Our fight against Evil is never ending, you guys are champs at keeping us going
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Dec 9, 2012 - 07:58pm PT
Indeed. Fox News is in fact just now reaching its zenith of public purpose, after a period of missplaced credibility, asasort of pop cultural zoo. A place where anachronistic caricatures of various Crackers, Uncle Tom's, Nazi Barbie dolls, Snake oil salesmen and Captain Americas can be displayed without the obvious comedy of the Colbert Report. A place where the denizens can be at least held safely yet respectful of the power that was once held by their kind.

I'm not sure the advertizing revenue will be adequate for indefinite preservation in the modern free Enterprise State, but thats why they invented You tube.
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 9, 2012 - 08:06pm PT
Paul Krugman: Ryan Budget 'A Fake Document'


The Huffington Post | By Alana Horowitz Posted: 12/09/2012 2:40 pm EST | Updated: 12/09/2012 4:43 pm EST


Paul Krugman has made it clear: he really, really doesn't like Paul Ryan's budget.

"The Ryan budget is full of -- is full of magic asterisks, too. It's not a real budget. It's a fake document. I mean, I'm amazed that people haven't gotten that. You know, we're now a couple of years into the Ryan thing, and the fact that he doesn't actually present real budgets," he said on Sunday.

His comments came in the middle of a heated debate on ABC's This Week's roundtable discussion.

Krugman blamed the lack of a fiscal cliff deal on Republicans' failure to provide a comprehensive plan to match that offered by the White House.

"Republicans are unable to actually make concrete proposals," he said. "If you actually look, all that talk we just heard about, you know, deficits and China and Greece, which is all nonsense, but all that talk about how we need to deal with this and ask, what is the Republican Party currently proposing? What have they actually put on the table? They put down some numbers, but what specifics?"

The specifics they did offer, he said, are "almost nothing."

"How is the president supposed to negotiate with people who say, "Here's my demands. By the way, I can't give you any specifics. Just make me happy"?


This hardly the first time the New York Times columnist has criticized Republican budget plans for being nonspecific. In the past few months, he's called the Ryan budget flimflam, "a set of assertions", and "not a serious policy proposal."

Watch the full clip above, courtesy of ABC.
jghedge

climber
Dec 10, 2012 - 11:01am PT
"Looks like there are some really blue states on this graph"

http://money.cnn.com/interactive/news/economy/food-stamps/?iid=EL

Thanks for that link, TGT, which proves my point

Only 1 Red State, WY, has less % of households on Food Stamps than CA does

CA is at 8.3% of households on Food Stamps, only WY, NH and NJ, out of all 50 states, are lower

Texas is at 13.6%, and the southern hardcore Red States are all in the mid-to-high teens

Hahahahaha, yet another case of a wingnut citing stats in support of their argument which in fact disputes the point they're trying to make




Repubs Have Failed.




JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Dec 10, 2012 - 11:37am PT
The bottom line is that there are two big issues facing US labor markets. The first is getting people back to work as soon as possible. The unemployment rate is still far too high, and our most immediate problem is providing jobs for the millions of people who are still seeking work. But there is also the the problem of reversing the trend toward increased wage polarization. This will require the creation of middle class jobs that are at least as good or better than jobs that existed in the past, something that is much easier said than done.

Actually, the lower-wage jobs represent, in large part, the relatively younger population of the United States compared to that of most western economies. High wages lead to higher unemployment of entry-level workers, particularly the youngest ones. If there is a consensus among economists about anything, it is that increasing the minimum wage decreases employment of entry-level workers. They may debate whether this detriment is worth the alleged advantages of higher minimum wages, but no competent economist has been able to discredit the massive number of studies confirming the inverse relationship between the level of the minimum wage and the level of entry-level employment.

John

John
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Dec 10, 2012 - 11:42am PT
Dumb sh#t TGT continues to bash Obama with juvenile cartoons instead of trying to find out why his pathetic party (republicans) loss big in the last national election.

Dumb...just got dumber.

TGT,

There seem to be two threads intertwined in this one. You debate policy with data and analysis showing the folly of left-of-center policy prescriptions.

Those who disagree with your analysis counter by saying "We won, so you must be stupid." It just goes to confirm P.T. Barnum's hypothesis.

John
jghedge

climber
Dec 10, 2012 - 12:05pm PT
"You debate policy with data and analysis showing the folly of left-of-center policy prescriptions. "

Agreed - applying left-of-center social policies like Food Stamps to failed Red States is a waste of time when they continue to vote repub, thus ensuring their continued impoverishment

Better to cut them off from the Red State Socialism that is the only thing keeping them from devolving into Haiti, and give them what they're really voting for.

Maybe that will get them to join the reality-based world, since nothing else seems to be working

rectorsquid

climber
Lake Tahoe
Dec 10, 2012 - 01:01pm PT
If socialism and communism are both on the left side of, well whatever the slave is, then we absolutely need the republicans ans the right wingers to make sure that the middle stays in the middle.

Let's just say that all conservatives died tomorrow. What would our country be like three days from now with the moderates then being considered the right extremists?

I'm all for social programs that help people in times of need. I even think that government forced savings plans like social security are good for the country as a whole. I'm not sure that I would like what the three-days-from-now moderates might want to do with our country. Socialized medicine might lead to socialized auto manufacturing and then socialized banks.

Who knows.

Thanks you for republicans for keeping the left-win nuts in check.

Dave
jghedge

climber
Dec 10, 2012 - 01:11pm PT
"Let's just say that all conservatives died tomorrow. What would our country be like three days from now with the moderates then being considered the right extremists?"

Well, the Red States are the poorest and the Blue States are the most prosperous.

So presumably you'd have a lot less people voting against their own interests.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Dec 10, 2012 - 01:17pm PT
Lezarian...When was the last time you were employed at a minimum wage job...?
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Dec 10, 2012 - 01:18pm PT
So presumably you'd have a lot less people voting against their own interests.

Perhaps the red states know what's in their interest better than the blue states do.

John
Curt

climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
Dec 10, 2012 - 01:24pm PT
Perhaps the red states know what's in their interest better than the blue states do.

As jhedge has already pointed out numerous times, the economic data suggest otherwise.

Curt
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Dec 10, 2012 - 01:25pm PT
Lezarian [sic]...When was the last time you were employed at a minimum wage job...?

1966. I used some of the proceeds to buy my first climbing rope (a 150' Goldline). Most of the time (through high school), though, I did agricultural harvesting where the going rate was piece-work, and I made several times the minimum wage. My other jobs in high school were tutoring jobs, that paid more than minimum wage. I can't remember now how much I was paid when I worked at Mountain Traders in the early 1970's. It may have been minimum wage, but I think it was a dime or two above it.

Your post implies that I'm saying that low minimum wages are a good thing. If you read what I said, I specifically recognized that economists disagree over whether or not any particular level of the trade-off between minimum wage and employment is good. What is clear, however, remains that higher minimum wages mean lower entry-level employment, particularly for young workers.

John
jghedge

climber
Dec 10, 2012 - 01:31pm PT
"Perhaps the red states know what's in their interest better than the blue states do."

Or perhaps they're simply delusional, and their primary motivation to vote stems from their ancestor's defeat in the Civil War, not their own economic self-interest.

Unless they feel they actually deserve poverty, and prefer being supported by the prosperous Blue States over becoming one themselves

In which case they're voting correctly.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Dec 10, 2012 - 03:22pm PT
Perhaps the red states know what's in their interest better than the blue states do.

If that were the case they wouldn't be red states and wouldn't be so susceptible to voting against their own economic interests anytime social issues are waved in their face.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Dec 10, 2012 - 04:48pm PT
What is clear, however, remains that higher minimum wages mean lower entry-level employment, particularly for young workers.


I see. So, maybe what's needed is a tiered minimum wage, where young-uns have a lower minimum wage that do their adult counterparts.

For example, those below 15 years of age can have a $4.59 minimum, while adults can have a $5.49 minimum.

I don't know of a single Republican congressman who would vote against that...
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2012 - 05:02pm PT
Voting against labor and good paying jobs is voting against your better interest

Voting for Republicans is voting for less jobs, lower paying jobs, and off shoring of American jobs.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Dec 10, 2012 - 05:03pm PT
Why not eliminate lower-entry jobs and eliminate the minimum wage then the business owner could take the lower entry position himself while increasing his profit margins...?
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