Dr. F.
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SoCal
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 3, 2012 - 07:19pm PT
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dirtbag
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Yep, Warbler and Dr. F, bash the MoFos.
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Ron Anderson
Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
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you all go suck sum swamp water eh!
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Dr. F.
Ice climber
SoCal
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 3, 2012 - 07:27pm PT
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rong
I thought you weren't a Republican?
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jghedge
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"rong
I thought you weren't a Republican?"
Rong has no idea what he is, what he's saying, what he believes
Just weird, unfocused rage at how his life has turned out, which he takes out on hispanics and people with IQ's higher than him
i.e.literally everyone
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jghedge
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Meanwhile CrackAddict's favorite (i.e. wrongest) wingnut has decided to get a life, and quit wasting his time preaching idiocy to idiots
Dick Armey Quits Tea Party Group in Split Over Direction
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/12/dick-armey-resigns-freedomworks-tea-party
n a move not publicly announced, former Rep. Dick Armey, the folksy conservative leader, has resigned as chairman of FreedomWorks, one of the main political outfits of the conservative movement and an instrumental force within the tea party.
Armey, the former House majority leader who helped develop and promote the GOP's Contract with America in the 1990s, tendered his resignation in an memo sent to Matt Kibbe, president and CEO of FreedomWorks, on November 30. Mother Jones obtained the email on Monday, and Armey has confirmed he sent it. The tone of the memo suggests that this was not an amicable separation. (See Armey's email below.) Armey demanded that he be paid until his contract ended on December 31; that FreedomWorks remove his name, image, or signature "from all its letters, print media, postings, web sites, videos, testimonials, endorsements, fund raising materials, and social media, including but not limited to Facebook and Twitter"; and that FreedomWorks deliver the copy of his official congressional portrait to his home in Texas.
"The top management team of FreedomWorks was taking a direction I thought was unproductive, and I thought it was time to move on with my life," Armey tells Mother Jones. "At this point, I don't want to get into the details. I just want to go on with my life."
In the email, Armey indicated that he wants nothing to do with FreedomWorks anymore. He asked that all user names, passwords, and security-related data created in his name be emailed to him by the close of business on December 4. He even insisted that FreedomWorks—"effective immediately"—was "prohibited" from using a booklet he authored. Was Armey's resignation a reaction to the recent election results? "Obviously I was not happy with the election results," he says. "We might've gotten better results if we had gone in a different direction. But it isn't that I got my nose out of line because we should've done better."
Armey declined to specify his disagreements with FreedomWorks. Asked if they were ideological or tactical, he replies, "They were matters of principle. It's how you do business as opposed to what you do. But I don't want to be the guy to create problems."
Armey led the fight to eliminate Obamacare, emailing every Republican member of Congress after the 2010 elections with a strategy for gutting President Obama's signature health-care law.
Here is Armey's November 30 memo to Kibbe:
November 30, 2012
To: Matt Kibbe, President, FreedomWorks Inc.
From: Honorable Richard K. Armey
Regarding: Resignation
This is to inform you that as of 5:00 P.M. ET on November 30, 2012 I resign my position of Trustee at FreedomWorks, Inc. and my positions of Chairman of FreedomWorks and FreedomWorks Foundation.
As I resign from all board positions and duties, please see below a list of dispositions on outstanding issues: I expect to be fully compensated through the expiration date (December 31, 2012) of my current consulting contract with FreedomWorks. Henceforth FreedomWorks shall be prohibited from using my name, image, or signature in any way or for any purpose without my written permission or in the event of my death, without my heirs written permission.
Effective immediately I expect that Freedom Works shall remove my name, image, and signature from all its letters, print media, postings, web sites, videos, testimonials, endorsements, fund raising materials, and social media, including but not limited to Facebook and Twitter. I expect to receive via email at [redacted] by the close of business, December 4, 2012, all user names, passwords, security questions, and security answers for all accounts, web sites and social media, including but not limited to Facebook and Twitter, created in my name.
Effective immediately FreedomWorks is prohibited from using my booklet or any updated versions of my booklet "Hitting the Ground Running" without my written permission which I innovated while still in congress and trusted to Max Pappas to update for new member orientation. I request that FreedomWorks deliver the copy of my official congressional portrait to my home in Texas.
Hahahahahahaha
Repubs Have Failed.
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Gary
Social climber
Right outside of Delacroix
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http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hiltzik-20121202,0,704587.column
The question that normally comes to mind when someone claims to know the future is why he's out hustling rubes for pennies with his purported clairvoyance, instead of using it to make a fortune and retiring to the South Seas.
Of course, the answer is that nobody ever does know the future. And that leads to the question of why so much of the "fiscal cliff" debate in Washington is based on supposedly perfect knowledge of conditions that are 20, or even 70, years away.
We're talking about projections of the cost of "entitlements" — a noxious way of referring to Medicare and Social Security, excellent programs that most workers have paid for during their careers and that have kept millions of Americans healthy and out of poverty.
...Consider the prevailing assumptions about the future of Social Security and Medicare. One is that Social Security's trust fund will run dry in 2033, at which point the money coming in from payroll taxes will be enough to cover only about 75% of currently scheduled benefits. Will this happen? It might, but it might not:
The program's trustees, who are the source of the projection, don't bet the farm on it. They also project that under certain conditions of economic and employment growth — all of them perfectly plausible — it might never run dry. You don't hear much about that projection because it doesn't fit into the narrative that Social Security is "going broke."
Just another Wall Street ploy to steal more from us. Screw those SOBs.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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The issue of "fixing" medicare leaves out an important fact: The ACA included a number of things that should alter the equation, particularly in the arena of waste and abuse. That part has nothing to do with the part having to do with working folk. Perhaps something good will come of that.
I've been thinking about the Fiscal Cliff, and the answer seems pretty clear to me. Go over it, then backfill with individual bills to restore tax breaks for middle class, defense and other spending to the neccessary levels, with cuts built in.
I don't see how anyone can vote against any of that.
Right now, a clean, single purpose bill to restore the tax break for the middle class has passed the Senate, and will not be allowed to be voted on by Boehner. When the tax increase hits, I don't see how he can avoid the blame.
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jghedge
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"I've been thinking about the Fiscal Cliff, and the answer seems pretty clear to me. Go over it, then backfill with individual bills to restore tax breaks for middle class, defense and other spending to the neccessary levels, with cuts built in."
That's Boehner's ploy, probably - then he won't get the blame for the +250k tax increases, and he'll get credit for cutting taxes for everyone else.
The base won't buy it of course, but the base isn't getting anyone elected outside of the Bible Belt anymore anyway
Next on the agenda: Military spending cuts, and gov't cost controls on medical goods and services.
Progressives Are Winning.
Repubs Have Failed.
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nature
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Boulder, CO
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Obama is telling the GOP to go GFYS...
I love my president.
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Riley Wyna
Trad climber
A crack near you
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bahahahaha
Karl - ya just cant make it up..
Teabaggers/ fundies and dumb ass christian republicans of all kinds are the mortal enemy of america..
F*#k em!!
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Nohea
Trad climber
Living Outside the Statist Quo
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SO while I see dems/repubs united in their control over our lives and the title of this thread is humorous....didnt anyone catch our CIC Obama asking to be given the power to set the debt limit at what ever level he so desires?
This puts him alongside who? (Hint:Not all asked for but had enjoyed such power)
C___z you get the game..Chavez
M___a Hint: I just held a $50,000,000.00 zimbabwe bill
H___r
L___n
S___n
C___o
K___v
Gang, we love life, why do we so easily hand over power to the state?
Aloha,
and always an enemy of the State,
will
EDIT: forgot my cartoon!
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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So let me get this straight:
The Congress can pass spending bills, obligating the US to spend money.
But this "debt ceiling" concept, which no business has, and apparently no other country has, creates financial havoc.
We can create debt, but there is an issue of paying our debt?
We put into doubt "the full faith and credit" of the US?
The ONLY reason it exists at this point, is for the party of Unamericanism is perfectly willing to use threat of non-passage, and associated damage to the country, as a tool of power.
What ugly, ugly traitors.
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johnboy
Trad climber
Can't get here from there
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We can create debt, but there is an issue of paying our debt?
The Republican mantra of the Bush era.
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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how to make a liberal's head explode:
over barry's first four years, gun ownership in virginia increased by 76%...violent crime in virginia DECREASED by 26%
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Dr. F.
Ice climber
SoCal
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 4, 2012 - 08:10am PT
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The talking points on the debt ceiling are already here, as demonstrated above.
The President having the sole authority to pay our debt and maintain our credit rating is worse than Chavez and Hitler
Truly despicable
Build up the lies and propaganda early, and by the time the debt ceiling talks come, the lies will already infect 47% of the population, and they will be wanting Obama's impeachment.
all because he had to circumnavigate the treasonous Obstructional Republicans in Congress, that wanted their bribes and Bush tax cuts for a yes vote on paying our debt.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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over barry's first four years, gun ownership in virginia increased by 76%...violent crime in virginia DECREASED by 26% So I can assume he is your hero eh?
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Dr. F.
Ice climber
SoCal
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 4, 2012 - 08:12am PT
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Riley Wyna
Trad climber
A crack near you Dec 3, 2012 - 07:15pm PT
There are no sides..
There are normal intellegent members of the human race..
And then there are brain washed, retarded, fundamentalist, neocon, gun freak, antiscience, republitards..
This is a purely American phenomena -if you travel or live in other countries in the world you do not see this....well, maybe in Somalia.
To call them "a side" elevates it to an equivalent and reasonable alternative...
It is not....they are just a bunch of idiots that have been manipulated into a group of alike minded subhumans..
If we are going to progress as a race...as a species..solve the vast problems that face this planet....the only way is straight through or over these morons very true
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Dr. F.
Ice climber
SoCal
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 4, 2012 - 08:16am PT
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Right now, a clean, single purpose bill to restore the tax break for the middle class has passed the Senate, and will not be allowed to be voted on by Boehner. When the tax increase hits, I don't see how he can avoid the blame.
Ken
Why won't Boehner bring the bill up for a vote?
Because it could pass with only 25 Republicans votes, and his Tea Bagger Caucus will go berserk if that happens.
He can't control his Caucus!
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