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TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Nov 23, 2012 - 11:47am PT
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Media/Slideshow/2011/07/13/10-Insanely-Overpaid-Public-Employees.aspx?index=1

philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Nov 23, 2012 - 11:52am PT
FOX OFF!
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Nov 23, 2012 - 11:56am PT
jghedge

climber
Nov 23, 2012 - 12:01pm PT
FauxNews is doing a better job of abolishing the repub party than even repubs themselves are

By 2020 at the latest, they will have achieved their goal - exterminating the repub vermin from American political life

All they will have achieved is this sad footnote in history:

Conservatism - Just Another Failed Ideology Consigned To The Ash Heap Of History.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Nov 23, 2012 - 01:40pm PT
Conservatism - Just Another Failed Ideology Consigned To The Ash Heap Of History.

I hope not. There is place for the voice of real conservatism. The Idea that generally less government is better but where government is necessary it must be held to the highest standards of service, Balanced budgets, Individual rights, COMPETITIVE markets (not free-markets) and anti-trust, Lower taxes within the frameworks of balance.

This is not the Republican party anymore. Infact the Dem party etter represents true conservative principles these days.

Sadly what this country lacks is a Liberal party. We have a semi-conservative party and a right wing lunatic fascist party.

We have lost the concept called the LOYAL Opposition.

The healthcare system in this nation is pathetic. The lives of it's citizens is the one main legitimate priority of any government. Yet we somehow debate whether single payer is constitutional?

No real conservative with a clear understanding of principles of legitimate government would ever question the need for a national healthcare system.
jstan

climber
Nov 23, 2012 - 02:07pm PT
He also predicted an “economic collapse” that would devastate the country, the result of
which would be a new president. “But I’m not supposed to talk about that,” he said.

I presume he is not supposed to talk about that because of his tax exemption. But of course he, like
other exempt organizations, still engage in political advocacy. It is time we rethink such tax
exemptions.
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2012 - 04:21pm PT
We have a semi-conservative party and a right wing lunatic fascist party.
climbski2
My assessment as well

We need to drive the Dems to the Left
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Nov 23, 2012 - 04:33pm PT
My assessment as well

We need to drive the Dems to the Left

Ready for the dictatorship of the proletariat?
Donald Thompson

Trad climber
Los Angeles,CA
Nov 23, 2012 - 05:48pm PT
Credit: Donald Thompson

During Thanksgiving, American toiling masses traditionally give thanks to the government for what it has distributed to them. All conscientious members of community are required to experience (a) deep gratitude to the Party and its leaders; (b) unworthiness in the face of the the glorious state; (c) guilt for consuming according to their needs and not giving back enough according to their abilities. The non-compliant will have their belongings redistributed to the more worthy members of the community.
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Nov 23, 2012 - 06:05pm PT

Ready for the dictatorship of the proletariat?

No, but we've had enough dictatorship of the plutocrat.


You wingnuts just can't think in terms other than black and white.

Must be frustrating and boring....
jghedge

climber
Nov 23, 2012 - 07:03pm PT
Credit: jghedge

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."

Karl Marx, 1875

Notice in the above graph that NV, CO and FL, which are shown as red, all voted blue this time

Meaning there is only one Red State that gives more than it gets - Texas

Think about that - of all the Red States, all but one are financially supported by the Blue States, via redistribution of the Blue State's wealth by the federal gov't.
Gary

Social climber
Right outside of Delacroix
Nov 23, 2012 - 08:50pm PT
From TGT:

One's a basketball coach. Three are from that bastion of Republicanism Texas, the others are university chancellors and medical doctors from the California State Prison system which the Republicans can't shovel money to fast enough.

Fail.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Nov 23, 2012 - 09:55pm PT



It’s time to rebuild America

By Rahm Emanuel, Friday, November 23, 4:31 PM

Rahm Emanuel, a Democrat, is mayor of Chicago and represented Illinois’ 5th District in the U.S. House from 2003 to 2009. He was White House chief of staff from January 2009 to October 2010.



Too much post-election analysis has focused on voter demographics and campaign mechanics, leaving Democrats in danger of drawing the wrong lessons from our electoral success.

Demographics alone are not destiny. There is nothing in this year’s election returns that guarantees Democrats a permanent majority in the years to come. President Obama and the Democratic Party earned the support of key groups — young people, single women, Latinos, African Americans, auto workers in the Rust Belt and millions of other middle-class Americans — because of our ideas.

But we cannot expect Republicans to cede the economic argument so readily, or to fall so far short on campaign mechanics, the next time around.

So, instead of resting on false assurances of underlying demographic advantages, the Democratic Party must follow through on our No. 1 priority, which the president set when he took office and reemphasized throughout this campaign: It is time to come home and rebuild America.

In Chicago, our initiative of “Building a New Chicago” adopts a similar view, with improvements to areas as varied as education and physical infrastructure.

While infrastructure improvements have been neglected on a federal level for decades, Chicago is making one of the nation’s largest coordinated investments, putting 30,000 residents to work over the next three years improving our roads, rails and runways; repairing our aged water system; and increasing access to gigabit-speed broadband. We are paying for these critical improvements through a combination of reforms, efficiencies and direct user fees, as well as creating the nation’s first city-level public-private infrastructure bank. Democrats should champion these kinds of innovative financing tools at a national level.

If we want to build a future in which the middle class can succeed, we must continue the push for reform that the president began with Race to the Top, bringing responsibility and accountability to our teachers and principals.

Chicago has adopted its own Race to the Top for early childhood education, allowing public schools, Head Start, charters and parochial schools to compete for dollars by improving the quality of their pre-kindergarten programs. In addition, this year Chicago Public Schools put into effect a 30 percent increase in class time, which means that when today’s kindergartners graduate high school, they will have benefited from 2½ more years’ worth of education.

In partnership with leading private-sector companies, we reengineered our six community colleges to focus each on skills training for jobs in one of Chicago’s six key growth fields. Democrats can be the party that closes the nation’s skills gap by making our community colleges a vital link between people looking for jobs and companies looking for skilled workers.

The strength of these investments is proven in the number of people we’re putting back to work: Chicago is first in the nation in terms of increase in employed residents, and for several months we have led the nation in year-over-year employment increases. We added 42,500 residents to the workforce in the past year alone — 8,000 more than the next highest U.S. city.

While Republicans are likely to become less intransigent on immigration, Democrats need to push for comprehensive immigration reform to ensure that, true to our history, we continue to be the party of opportunity and inclusion. Democrats in Congress should follow Chicago’s lead and develop a national “Citizenship Initiative” to provide the 8.5 million people eligible to become citizens with the information and resources they need to achieve the American dream.

Chicago’s initiatives come straight out of the playbook Barack Obama put forward in his campaign four years ago and has advocated since Day One of his presidency. But there are some issues that only Washington can tackle. Democrats at the national level must execute on the president’s agenda on energy and tax reform to ensure the future of not only our party but also the middle class.

By embracing the president’s “all of the above” strategy, Democrats can own the policies that will begin to make the United States energy-independent in the next four years, a goal that has eluded the past eight presidents.

While reforming tax policy is not the panacea that some believe, the experience of our party shows that pro-growth, pro-middle-class reforms can jump-start economic prosperity. When Democrats led on these policies during President Bill Clinton’s first term, we strengthened the earned-income tax credit. We balanced the budget in the second term, cutting spending while lowering taxes for working families, to lay the groundwork for a decade of prosperity. In President Obama’s second term, we have an opportunity to do the same and narrow the nation’s income gap.

If Democrats develop innovative policies that help Americans compete in a global economy, we will outperform Republicans on Election Day. It’s that simple.

We cannot allow Beltway chatter to hijack what the president accomplished in this election or to demean its value. We must never lose sight of the fact that while our victory in 2012 was aided by demographic advantages and sophisticated campaigning, our party’s ideas are what sealed the deal with middle-class voters.

Read more from Opinions: Bill Daley: Democrats, keep the big tent big Eugene Robinson: Standing up for teachers The Post’s View: Chicago teachers resisting much needed education reforms Charles Lane: The Chicago fight is over clout Rep. Luis V. Gutierrez: What Obama should do now: Fix immigration

Skeptimistic

Mountain climber
La Mancha
Nov 23, 2012 - 10:22pm PT
In the spirit of the coming holidays, I have a present for those of you for whom the election didn't go as hoped.


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Print out the above letter in a 96 point font of your choice and paste it to your forehead. Wear it every day as you work and shop; it should bring out pity and sympathy in your fellow humans who will likely go out of their way to help you deal with the crushing sadness that is your life.
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2012 - 10:45pm PT
Grand Old Planet

By PAUL KRUGMAN

Published: November 22, 2012 814 Comments
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/23/opinion/krugman-grand-old-planet.html?hp=&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1353728571-Yj6XNtDXq0E3cdfPkAABiw&_r=0


Earlier this week, GQ magazine published an interview with Senator Marco Rubio, whom many consider a contender for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination, in which Mr. Rubio was asked how old the earth is. After declaring “I’m not a scientist, man,” the senator went into desperate evasive action, ending with the declaration that “it’s one of the great mysteries.”

It’s funny stuff, and conservatives would like us to forget about it as soon as possible. Hey, they say, he was just pandering to likely voters in the 2016 Republican primaries — a claim that for some reason is supposed to comfort us.

But we shouldn’t let go that easily. Reading Mr. Rubio’s interview is like driving through a deeply eroded canyon; all at once, you can clearly see what lies below the superficial landscape. Like striated rock beds that speak of deep time, his inability to acknowledge scientific evidence speaks of the anti-rational mind-set that has taken over his political party.

By the way, that question didn’t come out of the blue. As speaker of the Florida House of Representatives, Mr. Rubio provided powerful aid to creationists trying to water down science education. In one interview, he compared the teaching of evolution to Communist indoctrination tactics — although he graciously added that “I’m not equating the evolution people with Fidel Castro.” Gee, thanks.

What was Mr. Rubio’s complaint about science teaching? That it might undermine children’s faith in what their parents told them to believe. And right there you have the modern G.O.P.’s attitude, not just toward biology, but toward everything: If evidence seems to contradict faith, suppress the evidence.

The most obvious example other than evolution is man-made climate change. As the evidence for a warming planet becomes ever stronger — and ever scarier — the G.O.P. has buried deeper into denial, into assertions that the whole thing is a hoax concocted by a vast conspiracy of scientists. And this denial has been accompanied by frantic efforts to silence and punish anyone reporting the inconvenient facts.

But the same phenomenon is visible in many other fields. The most recent demonstration came in the matter of election polls. Coming into the recent election, state-level polling clearly pointed to an Obama victory — yet more or less the whole Republican Party refused to acknowledge this reality. Instead, pundits and politicians alike fiercely denied the numbers and personally attacked anyone pointing out the obvious; the demonizing of The Times’s Nate Silver, in particular, was remarkable to behold.

What accounts for this pattern of denial? Earlier this year, the science writer Chris Mooney published “The Republican Brain,” which was not, as you might think, a partisan screed. It was, instead, a survey of the now-extensive research linking political views to personality types. As Mr. Mooney showed, modern American conservatism is highly correlated with authoritarian inclinations — and authoritarians are strongly inclined to reject any evidence contradicting their prior beliefs. Today’s Republicans cocoon themselves in an alternate reality defined by Fox News, Rush Limbaugh and The Wall Street Journal’s editorial page, and only on rare occasions — like on election night — encounter any hint that what they believe might not be true.

And, no, it’s not symmetric. Liberals, being human, often give in to wishful thinking — but not in the same systematic, all-encompassing way.

Coming back to the age of the earth: Does it matter? No, says Mr. Rubio, pronouncing it “a dispute amongst theologians” — what about the geologists? — that has “has nothing to do with the gross domestic product or economic growth of the United States.” But he couldn’t be more wrong.

We are, after all, living in an era when science plays a crucial economic role. How are we going to search effectively for natural resources if schools trying to teach modern geology must give equal time to claims that the world is only 6.000 years old? How are we going to stay competitive in biotechnology if biology classes avoid any material that might offend creationists?

And then there’s the matter of using evidence to shape economic policy. You may have read about the recent study from the Congressional Research Service finding no empirical support for the dogma that cutting taxes on the wealthy leads to higher economic growth. How did Republicans respond? By suppressing the report. On economics, as in hard science, modern conservatives don’t want to hear anything challenging their preconceptions — and they don’t want anyone else to hear about it, either.

So don’t shrug off Mr. Rubio’s awkward moment. His inability to deal with geological evidence was symptomatic of a much broader problem — one that may, in the end, set America on a path of inexorable decline.
splitter

Trad climber
Cali Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
Nov 24, 2012 - 01:47am PT
healyje - Please come back when you personally have some reality-based comments or opinions...!

"Please" see my post[s] on the " Why Our Health Care Is In Trouble!" thread. They are VERY reality based, frighteningly so!!

And be sure and read my request for the good Dr. Ken M! I am sure he will have all the answers. LOL
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 24, 2012 - 10:56am PT
Credit: Dr. F.
jstan

climber
Nov 24, 2012 - 11:02am PT
Thanks Ken for posting
It’s time to rebuild America
dirtbag

climber
Nov 24, 2012 - 11:07am PT
Good one Dr. F.

Nothing like facts to debunk ODS-related hysteria.
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Nov 24, 2012 - 04:09pm PT
The Beaver is right on
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