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Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Nov 23, 2012 - 10:30am PT

Pat Robertson claims he ‘missed’ God’s message about 2012 election

In January of this year, televangelist Pat Robertson informed his “700 Club” audience that God had revealed the results of the 2012 election to him in a vision, implying broadly at the time that the Almighty was less than pleased with President Barack Obama. According to Right Wing Watch, Robertson recanted on Wednesday, responding to a viewer question about his false prediction, saying he “missed” God’s message about the election result.

“So many of us miss God, I won’t get into great detail about elections but I sure did miss it, I thought I heard from God, I thought I had heard clearly from God, what happened? What intervenes? Why?” Robertson said. “You ask God, how did I miss it? Well, we all do and I’ve had a lot of practice.”

In January, Robertson said that God’s message to him was, “Your president holds a radical view of the direction of your country which is at odds with the majority, expect chaos and paralysis.”

He also predicted an “economic collapse” that would devastate the country, the result of which would be a new president. “But I’m not supposed to talk about that,” he said.

Raw Story (http://s.tt/1uqjb);
Dr. F.

Ice climber
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2012 - 10:46am PT
Every Christian I know are into the End of Days Bible Prophecy

Most of it was made up in the last Century, but Christians think it's in the Bible somewhere.

The live for any hint that one of the prophecies is being fulfilled, it just reaffirms their universal delusion

There are 1000s of web sites and blogs all talking about what's going on in Israel being true to prophecy, if it actually is or is the complete opposite doesn't matter, they will spin it to say that is was biblical prophecy.

I was looking up biblical prophecy in the Skeptic blogs, and they say most prophecies in the bible were 100% wrong.
I will search some more for something applicable

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Nov 23, 2012 - 10:58am PT
These two photos say it all in terms of how corrupt the current Israeli position is, as is our support of those policies driven by it:

And exactly how is this "Protection Rampart" any less objectionable th...
And exactly how is this "Protection Rampart" any less objectionable than the Berlin Wall?
Credit: healyje

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Nov 23, 2012 - 11:01am PT

These are scary frightened people. They are radical fundamentalists willing to do any evil necessary to bring on their fantasy of the Rapture. They need to kept far away from political power and influence.
The Founding Fathers and architects of America were wise enough to know full well the need to Separate Church and State.
Dr. F.

Ice climber
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2012 - 11:05am PT
Bush thought he was helping bring on Armageddon, he was one of God's chosen ones to bring back Jesus to save us all.

But first he needed to start WWIII, so we can bring on the Rapture, or something
Dr. F.

Ice climber
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2012 - 11:41am PT
Fox’s Fear Mongering Won’t Stop With The Holidays

By Anjali Sareen

Fox New, once again, promotes War on Christmas

Talking Points Memo yesterday posted a compilation video they called Fox News’ “Scariest Christmas Ever.” In it, they highlight several instances, just between November 17th and November 21st, in which Fox News has already begun to scare their gullible conservative viewers with ideas of a “War of Christmas.”

Co-hosts of Fox New’s, “The Five,” asked each other whether it was too early to start talking about the “War on Christmas,” to which of course, Andrea Tantaros replied, “It’s never too early.” It might be “never too early” for you, Fox News, but the rest of us might need a minute to celebrate the re-election of President Barack Obama and celebrate Thanksgiving with our families before we can stomach your useless fear mongering.

Fox News mentioned several instances they perceive as a “War on Christmas,” which, of course, to the rest of us just seem like a decent separation of church and state.

Indecision Forever writer, Dennis DiClaudio, posted about the removal of a cross on an Illinois water tower and cited Fox News’ headline, “War on Christmas Erupts in Illinois.” DiClaudio aptly asked:

“You ever notice how it’s always a War on Christmas in small town America? It’s never a War on Hanukkah or a War on Ramadan? How about a War on the Festival of Vasant Panchami once in a while? And would it kill them to declare a War on Bahá’í Naw-Rúz now and then? Why is it always the Christian holiday that gets attacked in in these little pockets of Americana?”

Why, indeed, Fox News? It can’t possibly be because you are pandering to your equally uninformed viewers and trying to keep them living in fear of the Obama administration and those scary “liberals,” can it?

News Hounds also reported on another perceived threat by Fox, which they claimed was perpetrated by those evil “atheists” who want to ruin Christmas for everyone. Apparently, Santa Monica has decided, for the first time in 60 years, not to set up nativity scenes along its well known Ocean Avenue. Attorney Peter Johnson Jr. noted, sadly:

“A pox on all your houses, religion is going out the window, we’re not going to allow the First Amendment to prevail here and the result, in the public square, is that Christian and Jewish symbols will not be allowed to be displayed in Santa Monica.”

News Hounds also notes that Johnson chose not to mention a quote by Santa Monica’s deputy city attorney, who stated:

“The decision to ban the displays also saves the city, which had administered the cumbersome lottery process used to award booths, both time and money while preserving the park’s aesthetics.”

So Fox News chose to ignore the facts of the situation and scare its viewers, yet again. Color me surprised.

It gets better though: According to Tantaros, “This is the thing about atheists, they bully other religions, and they are just vehemently intolerant.” Really, Tantaros? Is that “the thing” about atheists? I’m pretty sure, first of all, that to call atheism a “religion,” in the sense that it can be referred to by “other religions,” is wildly inaccurate, not to mention, entirely self-serving for the hacks over at Fox News. But let’s forget that for a moment and focus on how atheists are “vehemently intolerant.” I don’t suppose anyone would ever accuse Fox News, or even, perhaps, Christianity, of being “vehementantly intolerant” of anything, right? (Barring of course, Fox’s vehement support of anti-gay organizations like Chick-Fil-A and other anti-gay actions it took in that vein.) It seems what Fox News is choosing to ignore is its own war on every other belief system, while continuing to direct all their network programming around the idea of intentionally scaring their conservative, Christian viewers.

Rolling Stone magazine has called Fox News “the most profitable propaganda machine in history.” For an organization which claims to be “Fair and Balanced,” Fox News has never been further from either.

Unfortunately, it’s a sad day for those of us that thought we’d dodge Fox New’s “War on Christmas” this year. Not only have they taken up their rabid fear mongering again, but this year, they’ve brought it back even earlier. I’d imagine the best thing to do, if we really want to enjoy our winter season, is to simply avoid Fox News altogether.

Social climber
So Cal
Nov 23, 2012 - 11:47am PT


Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Nov 23, 2012 - 11:52am PT

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Nov 23, 2012 - 11:56am PT

Nov 23, 2012 - 12:01pm PT
FauxNews is doing a better job of abolishing the repub party than even repubs themselves are

By 2020 at the latest, they will have achieved their goal - exterminating the repub vermin from American political life

All they will have achieved is this sad footnote in history:

Conservatism - Just Another Failed Ideology Consigned To The Ash Heap Of History.

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Nov 23, 2012 - 01:40pm PT
Conservatism - Just Another Failed Ideology Consigned To The Ash Heap Of History.

I hope not. There is place for the voice of real conservatism. The Idea that generally less government is better but where government is necessary it must be held to the highest standards of service, Balanced budgets, Individual rights, COMPETITIVE markets (not free-markets) and anti-trust, Lower taxes within the frameworks of balance.

This is not the Republican party anymore. Infact the Dem party etter represents true conservative principles these days.

Sadly what this country lacks is a Liberal party. We have a semi-conservative party and a right wing lunatic fascist party.

We have lost the concept called the LOYAL Opposition.

The healthcare system in this nation is pathetic. The lives of it's citizens is the one main legitimate priority of any government. Yet we somehow debate whether single payer is constitutional?

No real conservative with a clear understanding of principles of legitimate government would ever question the need for a national healthcare system.

Nov 23, 2012 - 02:07pm PT
He also predicted an “economic collapse” that would devastate the country, the result of
which would be a new president. “But I’m not supposed to talk about that,” he said.

I presume he is not supposed to talk about that because of his tax exemption. But of course he, like
other exempt organizations, still engage in political advocacy. It is time we rethink such tax
Dr. F.

Ice climber
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2012 - 04:21pm PT
We have a semi-conservative party and a right wing lunatic fascist party.
My assessment as well

We need to drive the Dems to the Left

Social climber
So Cal
Nov 23, 2012 - 04:33pm PT
My assessment as well

We need to drive the Dems to the Left

Ready for the dictatorship of the proletariat?
Donald Thompson

Trad climber
Los Angeles,CA
Nov 23, 2012 - 05:48pm PT
Credit: Donald Thompson

During Thanksgiving, American toiling masses traditionally give thanks to the government for what it has distributed to them. All conscientious members of community are required to experience (a) deep gratitude to the Party and its leaders; (b) unworthiness in the face of the the glorious state; (c) guilt for consuming according to their needs and not giving back enough according to their abilities. The non-compliant will have their belongings redistributed to the more worthy members of the community.
The Warbler

the edge of America
Nov 23, 2012 - 06:05pm PT

Ready for the dictatorship of the proletariat?

No, but we've had enough dictatorship of the plutocrat.

You wingnuts just can't think in terms other than black and white.

Must be frustrating and boring....

Nov 23, 2012 - 07:03pm PT
Credit: jghedge

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."

Karl Marx, 1875

Notice in the above graph that NV, CO and FL, which are shown as red, all voted blue this time

Meaning there is only one Red State that gives more than it gets - Texas

Think about that - of all the Red States, all but one are financially supported by the Blue States, via redistribution of the Blue State's wealth by the federal gov't.

Social climber
Right outside of Delacroix
Nov 23, 2012 - 08:50pm PT
From TGT:

One's a basketball coach. Three are from that bastion of Republicanism Texas, the others are university chancellors and medical doctors from the California State Prison system which the Republicans can't shovel money to fast enough.

Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Nov 23, 2012 - 09:55pm PT

It’s time to rebuild America

By Rahm Emanuel, Friday, November 23, 4:31 PM

Rahm Emanuel, a Democrat, is mayor of Chicago and represented Illinois’ 5th District in the U.S. House from 2003 to 2009. He was White House chief of staff from January 2009 to October 2010.

Too much post-election analysis has focused on voter demographics and campaign mechanics, leaving Democrats in danger of drawing the wrong lessons from our electoral success.

Demographics alone are not destiny. There is nothing in this year’s election returns that guarantees Democrats a permanent majority in the years to come. President Obama and the Democratic Party earned the support of key groups — young people, single women, Latinos, African Americans, auto workers in the Rust Belt and millions of other middle-class Americans — because of our ideas.

But we cannot expect Republicans to cede the economic argument so readily, or to fall so far short on campaign mechanics, the next time around.

So, instead of resting on false assurances of underlying demographic advantages, the Democratic Party must follow through on our No. 1 priority, which the president set when he took office and reemphasized throughout this campaign: It is time to come home and rebuild America.

In Chicago, our initiative of “Building a New Chicago” adopts a similar view, with improvements to areas as varied as education and physical infrastructure.

While infrastructure improvements have been neglected on a federal level for decades, Chicago is making one of the nation’s largest coordinated investments, putting 30,000 residents to work over the next three years improving our roads, rails and runways; repairing our aged water system; and increasing access to gigabit-speed broadband. We are paying for these critical improvements through a combination of reforms, efficiencies and direct user fees, as well as creating the nation’s first city-level public-private infrastructure bank. Democrats should champion these kinds of innovative financing tools at a national level.

If we want to build a future in which the middle class can succeed, we must continue the push for reform that the president began with Race to the Top, bringing responsibility and accountability to our teachers and principals.

Chicago has adopted its own Race to the Top for early childhood education, allowing public schools, Head Start, charters and parochial schools to compete for dollars by improving the quality of their pre-kindergarten programs. In addition, this year Chicago Public Schools put into effect a 30 percent increase in class time, which means that when today’s kindergartners graduate high school, they will have benefited from 2½ more years’ worth of education.

In partnership with leading private-sector companies, we reengineered our six community colleges to focus each on skills training for jobs in one of Chicago’s six key growth fields. Democrats can be the party that closes the nation’s skills gap by making our community colleges a vital link between people looking for jobs and companies looking for skilled workers.

The strength of these investments is proven in the number of people we’re putting back to work: Chicago is first in the nation in terms of increase in employed residents, and for several months we have led the nation in year-over-year employment increases. We added 42,500 residents to the workforce in the past year alone — 8,000 more than the next highest U.S. city.

While Republicans are likely to become less intransigent on immigration, Democrats need to push for comprehensive immigration reform to ensure that, true to our history, we continue to be the party of opportunity and inclusion. Democrats in Congress should follow Chicago’s lead and develop a national “Citizenship Initiative” to provide the 8.5 million people eligible to become citizens with the information and resources they need to achieve the American dream.

Chicago’s initiatives come straight out of the playbook Barack Obama put forward in his campaign four years ago and has advocated since Day One of his presidency. But there are some issues that only Washington can tackle. Democrats at the national level must execute on the president’s agenda on energy and tax reform to ensure the future of not only our party but also the middle class.

By embracing the president’s “all of the above” strategy, Democrats can own the policies that will begin to make the United States energy-independent in the next four years, a goal that has eluded the past eight presidents.

While reforming tax policy is not the panacea that some believe, the experience of our party shows that pro-growth, pro-middle-class reforms can jump-start economic prosperity. When Democrats led on these policies during President Bill Clinton’s first term, we strengthened the earned-income tax credit. We balanced the budget in the second term, cutting spending while lowering taxes for working families, to lay the groundwork for a decade of prosperity. In President Obama’s second term, we have an opportunity to do the same and narrow the nation’s income gap.

If Democrats develop innovative policies that help Americans compete in a global economy, we will outperform Republicans on Election Day. It’s that simple.

We cannot allow Beltway chatter to hijack what the president accomplished in this election or to demean its value. We must never lose sight of the fact that while our victory in 2012 was aided by demographic advantages and sophisticated campaigning, our party’s ideas are what sealed the deal with middle-class voters.

Read more from Opinions: Bill Daley: Democrats, keep the big tent big Eugene Robinson: Standing up for teachers The Post’s View: Chicago teachers resisting much needed education reforms Charles Lane: The Chicago fight is over clout Rep. Luis V. Gutierrez: What Obama should do now: Fix immigration


Mountain climber
La Mancha
Nov 23, 2012 - 10:22pm PT
In the spirit of the coming holidays, I have a present for those of you for whom the election didn't go as hoped.


Print out the above letter in a 96 point font of your choice and paste it to your forehead. Wear it every day as you work and shop; it should bring out pity and sympathy in your fellow humans who will likely go out of their way to help you deal with the crushing sadness that is your life.
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