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Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Nov 15, 2012 - 08:59pm PT
Which I reckon explains why Republicunts are war mongers. They ain't really chickenhawks, they's all willin to fight. Really. They are. None of em actually join up, but they do plenty of advocatin for war. Really, they'd join right up, but you know that ol knee injury from football is actin up and besides they're like Mitt's boys servin the country by being campaign lackeys and religion mongers.

Just so long as they can "fight" by posting on message boards while stuffin their chubby little pasty jowls with cheetos and imaginin themselves as a big old tuff hero, them republicunts will be happy to do themselves what they advocate, fightin in wars and such.


NCC, John is an unfailingly polite and thoughtful poster, and really doesn't deserve such language aimed at him. He always treats his political opponents with courtesy, and deserves the same.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Nov 15, 2012 - 09:03pm PT
While I hear lots of speculation about which income levels benefit most from government expenditures, I see no hard data -- or even an attempt at a theoretical justification -- to substantiate that speculation.


John, you ignorant slut. (sorry, couldn't help myself after my last post......)

I'm not at liberty to do a search on such things, but I've read repeatedly that something like 60% of court actions have to do with business.

It is hard to imagine most businesses functioning without the roads, the airports.

It is hard to imagine most businesses working without police to protect their properties.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Nov 15, 2012 - 09:12pm PT
I am somewhat flummoxed as to what Repubs hope to accomplish by circulating petitions in a variety of states to secede from the Union.

Or a movement to impeach the President.

Seems that they are going to go over the fiscal cliff at 120 mph.
jstan

climber
Nov 15, 2012 - 09:34pm PT
The irrationality demonstrated in this election maps one to one onto the election of 1860. We had a civil war to protect the estimated one billion dollar investment slave owners had in their slaves. The next 100 years of Jim Crow shows it was not actually necessary they own the slaves. The economics was enough to enslave them. The war cost many times one billion.

Perhaps we are at the same point now. Economics forces us to pay $1000 for an aspirin costing a penny outside of a hospital. Maybe we should just total up all the profits for the corporations and pay them that as a bribe each year. Then reorder our economics sanely.

That would not have worked in 1860 because State's Rights as a sound byte had successfully inflamed the passions. Anyone notice the parallels?


Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Nov 15, 2012 - 09:35pm PT
In that context, states' rights are usually an unsound byte.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Nov 15, 2012 - 10:58pm PT
"The social stuff is what is killing the republicans."

....which of course is driven by their unholy wedlock to the RR.

A true conservative would believe that an individual has complete control over their own body...no matter what you want to do with it.

That whole principle got a pretty muddy when the GOP merged with the RR. It doesn't have to be that way.
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Nov 16, 2012 - 01:27am PT
John wrote

And yes, I can read. I can read that your graph, from a very non-objective source, stops in 2005, when times were still booming, but that's not my major gripe. My major gripe is with those who compare wage rates to profit totals. That's an invalid comparison for the reasons I stated earlier.

Seems like you are just nitpicking to win an argument because higher on the SAME PAGE that you wrote that I cited (with a link) this

American CEOs saw their pay spike 15 percent last year, after a 28 percent pay rise the year before, according to a report by GMI Ratings cited by The Guardian. Meanwhile, workers saw their inflation-adjusted wages fall 2 percent in 2011, according to the Labor Department.

That's in line with a trend that dates back three decades. CEO pay spiked 725 percent between 1978 and 2011, while worker pay rose just 5.7 percent, according to a study by the Economic Policy Institute released on Wednesday. That means CEO pay grew 127 times faster than worker pay.....

That goes to 2011 and cites CEO pay up 15 percent in 2011 and 28 percent in 2010 while worker pay didn't do squat.

Pretty fishy by any standard what CEO pay should up way way up while workers continue to get squat and all the while the GOP cries "Unions are killing us" my ass they are

Peace

Karl
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Nov 16, 2012 - 01:35am PT
Credit: Karl Baba
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Nov 16, 2012 - 01:41am PT
I've said it before, I'm actually getting to the point of thinking states are an anachronism we can't really afford anymore. Aside from the administrative overhead, they represent a real barrier to infrastructure improvement and damage our comparative advantage.
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Nov 16, 2012 - 02:34am PT
Is there no end to the pro-life GOP family values goodness?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/15/scott-desjarlais-approved_n_2140171.html

WASHINGTON -- The anti-abortion, pro-family Tennessee congressman who pushed his patient and mistress to get an abortion also agreed that his wife should have two, according to court transcripts released Thursday.

Those documents, from GOP Rep. Scott DesJarlais' 2000 divorce proceedings, paint a lurid picture of a doctor who had multiple affairs with coworkers and patients -- at least one of whom he prescribed pain pills for -- while he was chief of staff at a local hospital.

The Huffington Post first reported that DesJarlais pressured one of his patients to abort a pregnancy that she said came from their flings. The doctor calls the 24-year-old a "psycho" in the transcript of his testimony. DesJarlais won reelection last week, even after reports surfaced that he had sex with other patients, and that he prescribed them pills. DesJarlais admitted the HuffPost report, but challenged the credibility of the later case.

It turns out it was all true, as well as reports that he denied during his 2010 campaign that he stuck a gun in his mouth for more than two hours, and threatened suicide after it became apparent he could not repair his marriage with his then-wife, Susan.

Although DesJarlais called the 2010 reports "all false", he testified under oath they were true.

"It's very embarrassing to talk about. I know better than this," DesJarlais said at the time. His wife also accused him of dry-firing the gun outside her bedroom, although DesJarlais testified he had only been spinning the empty chamber of a revolver.

"I deal with people in the hospital that do this," DesJarlais said. "Suicide threats is [sic] probably the most immature form of attention-seeking behavior that there is and I resorted to that on this evening and I regret it, I regret that she felt threatened by it, and I'm very ashamed of it."


The gun incident was in September 2000, the same week that DesJarlais admitted to his wife that his patient might be pregnant. The couple's marriage had been on the rocks since 1998, when she accused him of breaking their vows. He had been trying to reconcile when his doctor-patient relationship became a problem.

DesJarlais said he suspected at the time that the woman was not pregnant, and he and his wife decided to record the phone call. HuffPost obtained the transcript of that call in October. It is unclear if the woman ever got an abortion. She testified that she was pregnant, but declined to say how the pregnancy ended.

In the wake of the revelations, DesJarlais insisted that he was anti-abortion. But the news that his wife had two abortions -- one for medical reasons and another because the couple agreed a child was not a good idea -- could call into question the sincerity of DesJarlais' position.

"Things were not going well between us and it was a mutual decision," DesJarlais said of the elective abortion. "I don't think that it was easy for either one of us. I think it was a very difficult and poor choice and I think that there are probably regrets both ways."

Several prominent local Republicans have been mentioned as potential primary challengers in the next election, if DesJarlais decides to remain in Congress. DesJarlais' office had no immediate comment on the document.

Whether or not he should resign is likely to become a pressing question. House Speaker John Boehner's did not answer a request for comment. Aside from the new details, which DesJarlais has said are merely part of his messy breakup -- the congressman is facing a probe by the Tennessee Board of Medical Examiners, and some of his explanations and denials are apparently lies, based on his own testimony.

Aside from denying the gun incident, DesJarlais also argued that the tape recording was made without his knowledge.

And his admissions that he had sex with other patients, including the woman who got Darvocet from him, are likely to raise the stakes in the medical board's probe. Tennessee law deems any sex between doctors and patients to be serious medical misconduct. Penalties range from reprimands to license suspension.

It's not clear what the fallout from sex with workers at the hospital would be, but DesJarlais admits to that as well. In one case, he hooked up with a technician at the hospital Christmas party in 1999, then took her home with him. Among other details, Desjarlais kept photos of himself with one of his patient-sex partners, which his wife later found during their reconciliation.



Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Nov 16, 2012 - 06:42am PT


Here it is, plain and simple.... The reason I cannot vote republigoon
philo

Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
Nov 16, 2012 - 07:23am PT
Jingy thanks that was a great post.


Rep. Scott DesJarlais GOP Poster Child.
Proctology exam to commence ASAP.
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Nov 16, 2012 - 07:38am PT
Proctology exam...better to give than receive


:-)
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 16, 2012 - 08:00am PT
I finally figured out what all this free stuff that Obama voters want...

They demand free air and water!!!

A vote for Romney would have rightly charged for air and water, his private Corporations could have made billions!!!

Stupid moochers, thinking they could have free air.
To a Republican, the billions they are not making by charging for air means they are Losing Billions!
Gary

Social climber
Right outside of Delacroix
Nov 16, 2012 - 08:02am PT
By the way, the greatest ratio of CEO pay to average workers pay occurred in 1999 and 2000. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/oct/10/facebook-posts/viral-facebook-post-ceo-worker-pay-ratio-has-obscu/
Last time I checked, a Democrat was president then.

John makes a very good point. There's very little difference in the policies of our two parties. They are first and foremost for Big Capital. AS Debs said, any differences that arise between them relates to spoils, not policies.

Sorry to be so harsh, but too many people use exaggerated CEO pay as an excuse to make policies that affect people who make a lot less than that. Making policy that affects hundreds of thousands, if not more, small business owners and professionals based on distortions of "the rich" is bad for the country, so I choose to speak out.

As the wealth in this country becomes more and more concentrated into the hands of a few, workers and small businessmen better realize they are in the same boat and start working together to break the grip of the oligarchy that's now running things.
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 16, 2012 - 08:31am PT
Our resident nutcase, rong, is fed up with all the name calling he gets on this thread

So luckily for US, he now only posts is rambling BS on all the other threads, and we are now free to discuss Politics without having to call people names.

His newest obsession: "The sky is Falling!!, and it's all Obama's fault"
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 16, 2012 - 08:39am PT
So what do you Republicans think about seceding from the Nation??
That's the Democratic thing to do, right?

And the only way to stop the Muslim President from imposing his Marxist agenda.
Dave Kos

Trad climber
Temecula
Nov 16, 2012 - 09:26am PT
Proctology exam...better to give than receive

I'm not sure about that one.
Gary

Social climber
Right outside of Delacroix
Nov 16, 2012 - 09:27am PT
Let the confederacy secede. Good riddance. We can't afford to pay for those slackers anymore.
Curt

climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
Nov 16, 2012 - 09:37am PT
...Mitt's explanation for his loss is straight out of the script for the 47% talk to donors.

It's amazing how close Mitt can come to the truth, and still manage to not stumble across it. If Mitt had only stated the reciprocal mirror image of what he actually said--he would have nailed the reason for the Republican loss precisely.

Instead of saying that Obama won the election because of supposed "gifts" he gave to young people, hispanics, blacks, etc., Mitt should have simply said that the Republican party currently offers young people, hispanics, blacks and women absolutely no reason to vote Republican.

Curt
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