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apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Oct 14, 2012 - 12:57pm PT
"they are in the thread..or the last thread. YOU go fish"

Liar.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Oct 14, 2012 - 12:58pm PT
I believe in democracy. THOSE principles of self rights are the same ones we fight due to thier coosing of styles of govt they want. Or the civil wars they engage in to seek those rights.

Do i LIKE communism? Hell no.

as per your romney question, that cant be accurately answered as he wasnt in charge. MY own opinion is that is IRANS choice and they will have to lie in the bed they make. We could try and keep installing govts in vein attempts at converting them to democracy's from now until infinity with the same results as the past sixty years of "trying".. YOU know as well as anyone here that WAR was meant to be hell and when you loose that agenda you loose the war. Thats what weve been doing thus far in the ME from what i see. We cant fight conventionally so we take on the never ending POLICE actions? nawww.....



apogee,,,they are there. GO FISH biotch...
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Oct 14, 2012 - 01:00pm PT
"they are there. GO FISH biotch..."

Liar x2
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Oct 14, 2012 - 01:06pm PT
thoughts from a friend in Iran: (name etc witheld and will remain so.)


A) he told me that they cant stand the muslim regime they have now and WISHED the USA would do something.

B) He told me that the drones have indeed become the latest black eye to the US by radical muslims

C) He asked me if OUR govt was crazy for what they did in Libya and the brotherhood.

D) He DOESNT want his country involved in NUCLEAR projects as HE doesnt trust them.

E) He also understands the opinion that America should avoid all out war with Iran yet thinks that will be the ONLY way they will ever see their Persia of old.



apogee, would you like me to tell you to GFYS or something? Youve got a large mouth and inflated sackage here. Yet you never prove a thing other than hurling your insults. Now if YOUR So interested in my positive comments on obama, YOU should do the research. Im not going to be your lacky so,,,, you know,,,, GFYS...;-)

locker

Gym climber
DUH!!!...
Oct 14, 2012 - 01:08pm PT


If Obama is lying a lot also...

he does that BETTER than Romney too...

So once more, he's proving that he is the RIGHT man for the job!!!...

Case closed!!!...

;-)



EDITED:

Romney looks like a little kid caught in the cookie jar all the time...

Dude is like GLASS...

See clearly through the fuker...

Can you imagine someone like THAT, running our country???...



apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Oct 14, 2012 - 01:11pm PT
"thoughts from a friend in Iran: "

STOP THE PRESSES

Edit:
What I meant to say is...

Who gives a feck?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Oct 14, 2012 - 01:14pm PT
I do, hes my friend..thats how I roll.
apogee

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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Oct 14, 2012 - 01:16pm PT
Well, I suppose that's more evidence of the fact that we surround ourselves with the reality of our choosing.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Oct 14, 2012 - 01:20pm PT
hogwash.. You can gain a friend through circumstance. Some of my longest and best buddies i did not "choose" - it was circumstance that brought us together due to a mutuality. Open minds know this.
apogee

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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Oct 14, 2012 - 01:23pm PT
"Now if YOUR So interested in my positive comments on obama, YOU should do the research."

Ron, you are nothing if not predictable.

Ever since you've come to this Forum, you've been well known for saying something, then telling anyone who questions it to look it up themselves. That was lame when you came here, and it's still lame.

If you have really made positive comments about Obama, they should be easily remember-able to you, right? (After all, there's only two of them...)

I can do the same about Shrub, without even trying hard:
1) He created that ocean preserve
2) He raised the contribution limits to IRA's

OK....your turn...
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Oct 14, 2012 - 01:24pm PT
And note: even knowing how many in Iran feel, i still dont advocate a war or any dealings with them. We will simply be waiting for the NEXT in a long line of debacles. On THAT you may rely.


apogeegee,,click profile on my avatar, then click forum posts. shouldnt take long.


but just an fyi, i complimented him when he increased sanctions against Iran and the killing of binwadecker.
apogee

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Oct 14, 2012 - 01:32pm PT
'Shouldn't take long'?

Are you kidding me?

Do you know how many posts you've amassed in the last few years, Ron? Or how many you average per day?

Asking someone to find two, tiny, never-before-uttered & never-since comments is a transparent attempt to distract someone from the probable fact that you never said them in the first place.

Try this: I've posted positive things about Rmoney. Go find them.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Oct 14, 2012 - 01:34pm PT
my edit beat you...naner naner naner
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Oct 14, 2012 - 01:37pm PT
12,882

Looks like you eclipsed me recently

Congratulations on a life well spent!
Ricky

climber
Sometimes LA
Oct 14, 2012 - 01:37pm PT

You guys enjoying debating Ron? Wouldn't you prefer smearing excrement on yourselves?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Oct 14, 2012 - 01:39pm PT
yup apogee, thats right I COMPLIMENTED obama when he increased sanctions against Iran and when he got binwadden... Tough noogies..And ricky, dont you have some smog to suck somewhere?


and Apogee,ILL BET i have more CLIMBING related posts than you.


Ricky, why am i not surprised you'd know about smearing excrement on yourself?
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Oct 14, 2012 - 01:53pm PT
"Wouldn't you prefer smearing excrement on yourselves?"

"and ILL BET i have more CLIMBING related posts than you."
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Oct 14, 2012 - 03:13pm PT
Who here has seen the movie "Kock Brothers Exposed"?


These guys need to be made to go away…
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Oct 14, 2012 - 03:18pm PT
ok i just gotta ask,, who give enough of a rip over this thread to be deleting posts? Thing was shrinkin like a weenie hitting the waters of tahoe for a few minutes !
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 14, 2012 - 08:46pm PT


Will Electronic Voting Machines Owned by His Buddies Give Mitt Romney the White House?

by Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman
Published on Sunday, October 14, 2012 by Common Dreams
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/10/14-4

Electronic voting machines owned by Mitt Romney's business buddies and set to count the votes in Cincinnati could decide the 2012 election.

The narrative is already being hyped by the corporate media. As Kelly O'Donnell reported for NBC's Today Show on Monday, October 8, Ohio's Hamilton County is "ground zero" for deciding who holds the White House come January, 2013.

O'Donnell pointed out that no candidate has won the White House without carrying Ohio since John Kennedy did it in 1960. No Republican has ever won the White House without Ohio's electoral votes.

As we document in the e-book Will the GOP Steal America's 2012 Election? (www.freepress.org) George W. Bush got a second term in 2004 thanks to the manipulation of the electronic vote count by Ohio's then-Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell. Blackwell served as the co-chair of the state's committee to re-elect Bush/Cheney while simultaneously administering the election.

The widespread use of electronic voting machines from ES&S, and of Diebold software maintained by Triad, allowed Blackwell to electronically flip a 4% Kerry lead to a 2% Bush victory in the dead of election night. ES&S, Diebold and Triad were all owned or operated by Republican partisans. The shift of more than 300,000 votes after 12:20 am election night was a virtual statistical impossibility. It was engineered by Michael Connell, an IT specialist long affiliated with the Bush Family. Blackwell gave Connell's Ohio-based GovTech the contract to count Ohio's votes, which was done on servers housed in the Old Pioneer Bank Building in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Thus the Ohio vote tally was done on servers that also carried the e-mail for Karl Rove and the national Republican Party. Connell died in a mysterious plane crash in December, 2008, after being subpoenaed in the King-Lincoln-Bronzeville federal lawsuit focused on how the 2004 election was decided (disclosure: we were attorney and plaintiff in that suit).

Diebold's founder, Walden O'Dell, had vowed to deliver Ohio's electoral votes---and thus the presidency---to his friend George W. Bush. That it was done in part on electronic voting machines and software O'Dell happened to own (Diebold has since changed hands twice) remains a cautionary red flag for those who believe merely winning the popular vote will give Barack Obama a second term.

This November, much of the Ohio electorate will cast its ballots on machines again owned by close cronies of the Republican presidential candidate. In Cincinnati and elsewhere around the state, the e-voting apparati are owned by Hart Intercivic. Hart's machines are infamous for mechanical failures, "glitches," counting errors and other timely problems now thoroughly identified with the way Republicans steal elections. As in 2004, Ohio's governor is now a Republican. This time it's the very right-wing John Kasich, himself a multi-millionaire courtesy of a stint at Lehman Brothers selling state bonds, and the largesse of Rupert Murdoch, on whose Fox Network Kasich served as a late night bloviator. Murdoch wrote Kasich a game-changing $1 million check just prior to his winning the statehouse, an electoral victory shrouded in electronic intrigue. The exit polls in that election indicated that his opponent, incumbent Democrat Ted Strickland, had actually won the popular vote.

Ohio's very Republican Secretary of State is John Husted, currently suing in the US Supreme Court to prevent the public from voting on the weekend prior to election day. As did Blackwell and Governor Robert Taft in 2004, Husted and Kasich will control Ohio's electronic vote count on election night free of meaningful public checks or balances

Hart Intercivic, on whose machines the key votes will be cast in Hamilton County, which includes Cincinnati, was taken over last year by H.I.G. Capital. Prominent partners and directors on the H.I.G. board hail from Bain Company or Bain Capital, both connected to Mitt Romney. H.I.G. employees have contributed at least $338,000 to Romney's campaign. H.I.G. Directors John P. Bolduk and Douglas Berman are major Romney fundraisers, as is former Bain and H.I.G. manager Brian Shortsleeve.

US courts have consistently ruled that the software in electronic voting machines is proprietary to the manufacturer, even though individual election boards may own the actual machines. Thus there will be no vote count transparency on election night in Ohio. The tally will be conducted by Hart Intercivic and controlled by Husted and Kasich, with no public recourse or accountability. As federal testimony from the deceased Michael Connell made clear in 2008, electronically flipping an election is relatively cheap and easy to do, especially if you or your compatriots programmed the machines.

So as the corporate media swarm through Ohio, reporting breathlessly from "ground zero" in Cincinnati, don't hold your own breath waiting for them to also clarify that the voting machines in what may once again be America's decisive swing state are owned, programmed and tabulated by some of the Romney campaign's closest associates.
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