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apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Oct 11, 2012 - 12:30pm PT
Jake: You lied to me.

Elwood: It wasn't lies. It was just bullsh#t.
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 11, 2012 - 12:58pm PT
To say that Obama's polices did not improve the economy, or create enough jobs is a lie

For one thing, the economy has improved, and he has added 4.5 miilion jobs

But the big lie is that Obama does not have control over the economy or job creation, Congress does, so it's a lie.

The only way to word it correctly would be:
The Republicans in Congress has not done anything to improve the economy or job creation.

So everytime Romney says this, it's a Lie
Untrue, non-factual


and everythime John says it, he is repeating the Lie
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 11, 2012 - 12:59pm PT
The only thing that confuses me is whether they are disingenuous hypocrites--or merely stupid.

Curt
They are both
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Oct 11, 2012 - 01:09pm PT
John has left the building..


Say gnight ALICE!




Joey the RUBE Biden shall be speaking on your behalf's tonight. rest easy in the knowledge that Joey is far superior in intelligence, poise, and debate as well..That and the fact that it shouldnt be hard to "outshine" obamas performance..

IF you guys EVER read my FAIR fact check about the debate youd see where they were fairly equal liars...
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Oct 11, 2012 - 01:11pm PT
Republicans leading our moral compass once again.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/paul-ryan-drops-endorsement-wisconsin-lawmaker-under-fire-173247435--election.html


rectorsquid

climber
Lake Tahoe
Oct 11, 2012 - 01:13pm PT
The only thing that confuses me is whether they are disingenuous hypocrites--or merely stupid.

All of these condemnations of the republicans, and when it happens, the democrats, disregard one important thing: What is it that they are trying to do?

They may be brilliant people who are getting exactly what they want. Their brilliance is in manipulating large numbers of people into acting how they want.

So assuming that the politicians are not idiots and further assuming that they are actually very smart, what is it that they might be doing to benefit themselves, their friends and family, and those that support them?

Dave

P.S. Don't laugh at the idea that they are smart. The question about their motives and accomplishments is an honest one.
graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Oct 11, 2012 - 01:15pm PT
Survival


On Wednesday, Rivard told Milwaukee's Journal Sentinel that his comments to the Chetek Alert newspaper in December were taken out of context:


"[My father] also told me one thing, 'If you do [have premarital sex], just remember, consensual sex can turn into rape in an awful hurry.' Because all of a sudden a young lady gets pregnant and the parents are madder than a wet hen and she's not going to say, 'Oh, yeah, I was part of the program.' All that she has to say or the parents have to say is it was rape because she's underage. And he just said, 'Remember, Roger, if you go down that road, some girls,' he said, 'they rape so easy.'

"What the whole genesis of it was, it was advice to me, telling me, 'If you're going to go down that road, you may have consensual sex that night and then the next morning it may be rape.' So the way he said it was, 'Just remember, Roger, some girls, they rape so easy. It may be rape the next morning.'

"So it's been kind of taken out of context."

Several hours later, Rivard issued a separate statement to the paper:

Sexual assault is a crime that unfortunately is misunderstood and my comments have the potential to be misunderstood as well. Rape is a horrible act of violence. Sexual assault unfortunately often goes unreported to police. I have four daughters and three granddaughters and I understand the importance of making sure that awareness of this crime is taken very seriously.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Oct 11, 2012 - 01:18pm PT
All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.
    The Art of War
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 11, 2012 - 01:48pm PT
They may be brilliant people who are getting exactly what they want. Their brilliance is in manipulating large numbers of people into acting how they want.

Dave

It doesn't take that much smarts to lead idiots to your ideology
Look at what Hitler did
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Oct 11, 2012 - 02:05pm PT
Doc were you FOR the UN TREATY? Are you FOR the occupation of Iran in a so-called war against them?


Not one of you answered a direct question posed to you multiple times yesterday so i dont expect a direct answer this time. But i had a few minutes while some bondo is kickin...
Dr. F.

Ice climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 11, 2012 - 02:12pm PT
I'm not sure what the UN Treaty said
NO, I am not Up for a New War with Iran

They don't even have WMD, it's Iraq all over again.

ron, answer my question
Are Romney and Ryan liars?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Oct 11, 2012 - 02:17pm PT
Yes they ARE doc, but so is Obama,, Biden-- isnt smart enough to lie. JMHO

It ISNT like im HAPPY about the most dismal choices i can remember for a long time. I think deep down we could both agree to that.


But yes fair fact checks point out both the many "fibs" both romney and obama said during the debate- which is same ol same ol..

The only way americans could possibly have an effective voice over this is to have NO ONE place a single vote in the country. F*ck!!! How else do we try and solve the thievery and lies that are washington to the core? By voting ANY "CAREER" plotickshun into the slots? Will that only re-arrange the seating? Ive been voting for a long time now, and i wonder what it has all meant at this point in life. Each and every time i THOUGHT i was voting right- it seems the results were the opposite. You can fact check and debunk even the bad mouthing commercials these days.. BOTH SIDES. Trust me there ARE some attributes of obmas that i do think had merit- but the ones that i think hes weak on outweigh. That and the fact that my local area is worse off than ever- as im able to see it in the local figures- not efected by any "campaigns".. The stench of dead businesses in carson permeate the air now. Entire malls and strip malls empty.


apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Oct 11, 2012 - 02:35pm PT
'Fibs'?

'Lies'?

It's politics.

Get real.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Oct 11, 2012 - 02:38pm PT
I thought i was rather "real"..And that leaves a bad taste in my mouff.

We have to vote the "lesser evil"

Oh what a wonderful system we let slip away about 90+ some years ago.

Sometimes. its nearly enough,, to make one think our idea of civilized society and government is TOTAL a folly.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Oct 11, 2012 - 02:46pm PT
"Oh what a wonderful system we let slip away about 90+ some years ago."

You think that these kinds of truth-bending shenanigans are new to US politics?

Dude.....get real.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
USA Moundhouse Nev. and land o da SLEDS!
Oct 11, 2012 - 02:47pm PT
no, but WE LET THEM get out of control around then, i truly believe.
zBrown

Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
Oct 11, 2012 - 02:56pm PT
Dr. F -> Ron Anderson -> apogee -> Riley Wyna -> Norton -> k-man -> corniss chopper -> TGT -> JEleazarian -> donald thompson -> rottingjohnny -> survival -> Bob D'A -> zBrown -> HighDeserDJ -> dirtbag -> philo -> jghedge -> crack addict

it's been awhile since I studied graph theory, will have to get back to ya.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Oct 11, 2012 - 02:59pm PT
Not even close, buddy.

Some of the political historians here have regularly posted examples of ridiculousness that goes back to the earliest days of our country. (Perhaps they'll chime in.) Hell, truth-manipulation is one of the oldest communication tactics around.

People squawk the most about it when it's a subject that matters to someone. Otherwise, the beat just goes on and on...
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Oct 11, 2012 - 04:02pm PT
In the early '60s, taxes on the most wealthy in the US were in the 90% range. Corporations were taxed $1.50 for every $1 paid by individuals.


Yes, it was a very prosperous time.

Corporations now pay $0.25 for every individual $1, and the wealthy have had HUGE tax cuts.


In a publicly-traded company, the shareholders vote on the direction of the company. Those with a majority get to vote the direction of the company.

The top 1% in the US own 75% of all equity stocks.

The word "democracy" originates from the Greek: δημοκρατία (dēmokratía) "rule of the people". However, where people spend most of their lives--at work--is hardly democracy rule. In fact, it is the majority shareholder who runs how much the executives get paid, how much you get paid, your health insurance, and so on.

In Germany, Eruope's most prosperous nation, has Gov't paid health care, and an education system that pays through the University level (amongst ther "socialist" things).

What do you say Ron, cut education, SS, and deregulate? How about Medicare? Are you looking forward to that? I know my Republican mom counts on it.
Gary

Social climber
Monza by the streetlight
Oct 11, 2012 - 04:48pm PT
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