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Ron Anderson

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Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 2, 2013 - 05:44pm PT
i dont forget the bushobama crap.. Nor have i fogotten FDR and what he did.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Apr 2, 2013 - 05:46pm PT
Did FDR piss you off? He was a socialist you know.
Ron Anderson

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Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 2, 2013 - 05:47pm PT
Do yur own research , youll figure it out im sure..
monolith

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SF bay area
Apr 2, 2013 - 05:48pm PT
Please tell us what you think. No amount of research could ever find that out.
Ron Anderson

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Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 2, 2013 - 05:53pm PT
please deposit 69.95 to my pay pal account, will send info.


meanwhile:



The United Nations General Assembly on Tuesday signed off on a sweeping, first-of-its-kind treaty to regulate the international arms trade, brushing aside worries from U.S. gun rights advocates that the pact could lead to a national firearms registry and disrupt the American gun market.

The long-debated U.N. Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) requires countries to regulate and control the export of weaponry such as battle tanks, combat vehicles and aircraft and attack helicopters, as well as parts and ammunition for such weapons. It also provides that signatories will not violate arms embargoes, international treaties regarding illicit trafficking, or sell weaponry to a countries for genocide, crimes against humanity or other war crimes.

With the Obama administration supporting the final treaty draft, the General Assembly vote was 154 to 3, with 23 abstentions.

American gun rights activists, though, insist the treaty is riddled with loopholes and is unworkable in part because it includes “small arms and light weapons” in its list of weaponry subject to international regulations. They do not trust U.N. assertions that the pact is meant to regulate only cross-border trade and would have no impact on domestic U.S. laws and markets.

Critics of the treaty were heartened by the U.S. Senate’s resistance to ratifying the document, assuming President Obama sent it to the chamber for ratification. In its budget debate late last month, the Senate approved a nonbinding amendment opposing the treaty offered by Sen. James M. Inhofe, Oklahoma Republican, with eight Democrats joining all 45 Republicans backing the amendment.

“The Senate has already gone on record in stating that an Arms Trade Treaty has no hope, especially if it does not specifically protect the individual right to bear arms and American sovereignty,” Sen. Thad Cochran, a Mississippi Republican who backed Mr. Inhofe’s motion, said in a statement. “It would be pointless for the president to sign such a treaty and expect the Senate to go along. We won’t ratify it.”

Despite the Senate vote, numerous groups have pressured President Obama to support the treaty, and Amnesty International hailed Tuesday’s vote.

“The voices of reason triumphed over skeptics, treaty opponents and dealers in death to establish a revolutionary treaty that constitutes a major step toward keeping assault rifles, rocket-propelled grenades and other weapons out of the hands of despots and warlords who use them to kill and maim civilians, recruit child soldiers and commit other serious abuses,” said Frank Jannuzi, deputy executive director of Amnesty International USA.

The American Bar Association also released a white paper arguing that the treaty would not affect Second Amendment rights.

General Assembly President Vuk Jeremic said Tuesday that the lack of a regulatory framework on the import and transfer of conventional arms “has made a daunting contribution to ongoing conflict, regional instabilities, displacement of peoples, terrorism and transnational organized crime.”

“Whatever the outcome of today’s meeting, for a treaty to be effective, we will need to keep working together to fulfill its goals,” he said.

Under the treaty, countries must also consider whether weapons would be used to violate international humanitarian or human rights laws, facilitate acts of terrorism or organized crime.

Proponents had hoped that the treaty could be ratified by acclamation at a final negotiating conference last week, but Syria, Iran and North Korea objected.

The final vote Tuesday was 154 countries in favor, three against, and 23 abstaining.

Some abstaining countries, like India and Egypt, felt the treaty did not go far enough on its language regarding terrorism and human rights.
© Copyright 2013 The Washington Times, LLC





Fairly OBVIOUS why the Senate REJECTED that absurd treaty..THE LAST THING ON EARTH is countries like Iran, Egpyt or anywhere else having anything to do with whom America trades arms with.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Apr 2, 2013 - 06:03pm PT
I'm sure you'll get a lot of buyers, Anderson. Why not start a wingnut blog subscription service?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 2, 2013 - 06:04pm PT
Im not a wing nut.. Im an Independent.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Apr 2, 2013 - 06:04pm PT
An independent wingnut.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Apr 2, 2013 - 07:19pm PT
No real surprise when a guy like Ron wants to vote the same as Syria, Iran, Russia, and China. As uneducated on the issues as ever.


Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 2, 2013 - 07:44pm PT
When that UN treaty boils down to small arms sales, WHICH IT DOES,, then it direclty affects the 2nd amendment. And H,, the SENATE agrees with me. And I made dang sure they knew my opinions on that BS treaty.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Apr 2, 2013 - 07:47pm PT
Only wingnuts think it had any constitutional impact at all.

It has a provision saying it has no domestic impact. Only international trade.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Apr 2, 2013 - 07:48pm PT
Educate me - tell me exactly how the UN treaty infringes on your [rightwing, activist judicial] second amendment rights?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Apr 2, 2013 - 08:09pm PT
a repost from the previous page.

The Senate has already gone on record in stating that an Arms Trade Treaty has no hope, especially if it does not specifically protect the individual right to bear arms and American sovereignty,” Sen. Thad Cochran, a Mississippi Republican who backed Mr. Inhofe’s motion, said in a statement. “It would be pointless for the president to sign such a treaty and expect the Senate to go along. We won’t ratify it.”

Now,, ANYONE wanting the USA to have MORE invovlvment with what is called the MOST DYSFUNCTIONAL organizatioin ever attempted, wants us connected to never ending jihad /terrorist/ ME war campaigns for ever, and WORSE want those thrird world coutries to have a say in what the USA doesw with its arms. We didnt rise to the top of the global food chain to give it all away. The dumbass UN wants IRaq in charge of "human relations" BAAAAAAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA! And you wanna put trust in the UN??? I got sum cheap beach front for ya too,, its in No Dak...
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 2, 2013 - 08:20pm PT
yawn!
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 2, 2013 - 08:22pm PT
"Progressive" minds explained

Splater

climber
Grey Matter
Apr 2, 2013 - 08:56pm PT
Article on just some of what is wrong in California.
Basically public employee unions have concocted a swindle pretending they are "progressive."
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/04/what-progressives-can-learn-from-their-california-failures/274517/
apogee

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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Apr 2, 2013 - 09:01pm PT
Conservative minds, illustrated:

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TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Apr 2, 2013 - 09:24pm PT
A not unexpected reaction explained by

"The Kindergarten of Eden"
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Apr 2, 2013 - 09:44pm PT
Glad to see you reacting to a reaction, TGT.
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Apr 2, 2013 - 10:11pm PT
"people vote their pocketbook"

 the very reason I never shop at Target or Walfart.
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