Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jun 20, 2012 - 11:06am PT
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I see Fartturd is blowing his own trumpet again...obviously its time for a little reminder...Said on the cusp of the Bush Meltdown.....
""Jeremy,
We're not in an economic mess, we are merely reversing an over extension of credit to individuals/companies that had no business obtaining loans in the first place. The people losing homes are those who put no money down or maintained lifestyles by continually taking equity loans on their long held properties. In general the economy is in good shape and the dollar will rally when Europe realizes that they can't keep their rates high.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Jun 20, 2012 - 11:11am PT
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Hey Jeff get your head out of your FatAss about Norton.
Let me remind you it wasn't long ago that you hid in the shadows of internet anonymity.
Your were outed not by your choice. Now you think you have a moral high ground from which to condemn others for your very own actions.
How utterly RepugniCant of you.
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fattrad
Mountain climber
GOP Convention
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Jun 20, 2012 - 11:17am PT
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philo,
Your memory is failing you, I posted my name, office address and phone number years ago.
Here it is again:
Jeffrey M. Elfont
1440 Maria Ln. #210
Walnut Creek, Ca. 94596
(925) 977-8259
Jaybro should be coming by later in the week, anyone is always welcome.
TheTool
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Dr. F.
Ice climber
SoCal
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 20, 2012 - 11:18am PT
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What do you propose that will fix the problems??
That we haven't heard, and until then, stop crying
fATTY
Post your Phone Number again please
we missed it the first time
Here it is again:
Jeffrey M. Elfont
1440 Maria Ln. #210
Walnut Creek, Ca. 94596
(925) 977-8259
Thanks
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Jun 20, 2012 - 11:25am PT
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But you didn't post it till you were outed.
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Ricky
climber
Sometimes LA
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Jun 20, 2012 - 11:29am PT
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[ ] I posted my name, office address and phone number years ago.
Was that coincidental with falsely claiming to be a CPA on your professional website?
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jun 20, 2012 - 11:30am PT
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Jun 20, 2012 - 11:36am PT
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food stamps are becoming the latest middle-class entitlement.
That's an odd definition of middle class you're using. And btw, asset tests are silly, they would cost much more to implement than they would ever save. The stigma of actually using food stamps is a fairly effective deterrent for those who don't actually need them.
This point is illuminating in showing the difference between the mindset of liberals and conservatives. The left tend to look at data and effectiveness..i.e. an asset test is a waste of time/money, similar to drug testing for welfare/unemployment recepients, that costs more than it "saves" from people it eliminates, while the right is concerned about morality, retribution, and someone somewhere who might be abusing/cheating the system (this hard-on for grifters somehow doesn't apply to CEOs, bankers, and other white-collar hucksters and thieves though).
Your quote also says 130% of the poverty level, implying that it's "middle class". Do you even know what the poverty level annual earnings for a family is? $23k/yr. 130% is only ~30k. I'd love to see you support a family of 4 in CA on 30k/yr.
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Dr. F.
Ice climber
SoCal
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 20, 2012 - 11:38am PT
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Call fATTY AT (925) 977-8259
I did, and gave him a heavy tooling
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fattrad
Mountain climber
GOP Convention
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Jun 20, 2012 - 11:41am PT
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Ricky,
Sorry, but I am a CPA (inactive).
Hey, just off the phone with Dr. F...... thanks for calling.
TheTool
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jghedge
climber
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Jun 20, 2012 - 11:42am PT
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Hahaha
I got a phone call a while back from Walnut Creek, they just breathed into the mouthpiece for a few seconds and hung up
Gee I wonder who that could have been
Some pathetic loser, no doubt.
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CrackAddict
Trad climber
Canoga Park, CA
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Jun 20, 2012 - 11:50am PT
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That's an odd definition of middle class you're using. And btw, asset tests are silly, they would cost much more to implement than they would ever save. The stigma of actually using food stamps is a fairly effective deterrent for those who don't actually need them.
Stigma? Have you seen the new food stamp "credit cards"? Clearly by the increase in the number on the rolls there is no effective deterrent at work.
So your solution is to just give food stamps to whoever wants them, rich or poor, because means testing is too expensive? This is the GOVERNMENT, they already have information on your income for tax purposes, it couldn't cost much to check that.
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fattrad
Mountain climber
GOP Convention
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Jun 20, 2012 - 11:55am PT
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Hedge,
Whoever did that likely gave you the only type of sex you've ever had.
TheTool
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corniss chopper
climber
breaking the speed of gravity
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Jun 20, 2012 - 12:02pm PT
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The only question now is will Drug Cartel Gunrunner Jefe Eric Holder
go postal or fall on his sword to protect the WH ?
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Jun 20, 2012 - 12:10pm PT
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You Repugnican'ts are heelareous.
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fattrad
Mountain climber
GOP Convention
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Jun 20, 2012 - 12:12pm PT
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Off to have lunch with a former Congressman, making plans.
TheTool
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Jun 20, 2012 - 12:16pm PT
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Clearly by the increase in the number on the rolls there is no effective deterrent at work.
So your solution is to just give food stamps to whoever wants them, rich or poor, because means testing is too expensive? This is the GOVERNMENT, they already have information on your income for tax purposes
Yeah, the biggest recession in our lifetimes obviously has nothing to do with the increase in the rolls. Willful disregard of influencing conditions is pretty ridiculous, especially since you're supposed to be some kind of hard science guy. My first job was from 15-17 in a chain grocery store, cashier/stock clerk/bagger. There is a palpable stigma and deterrent effect. Even with WIC vouchers.
Re: "your solution", nice of you to put words in my mouth, but I'm capable of speaking for myself, thanks. You seem to misunderstand what "asset" testing involves. "Income" does not equal "assets". Income qualifications are, to the best of my knowledge, already in place to qualify. Asset testing would be a nightmare time and money sink with the investigative activity it would require, and even with a giant time and money budget would be largely ineffective at indentifying assets.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Jun 20, 2012 - 12:18pm PT
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Off to have lunch with a former Congressman, making plans.
Be sure to leave all your weapons at home, they don't like it when you try to sneak those into Federal correctional facilitites. And say hi to Duke Cunningham for us.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Jun 20, 2012 - 12:24pm PT
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Fats I hope you are planning something really sleazy and illegal. Bubba needs a new bitch in the big house.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jun 20, 2012 - 12:27pm PT
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