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locker

Gym climber
DUH!!!...
Aug 18, 2012 - 01:10am PT


"What's the obvious conclusion?"...


That we're pretty much FUKED no matter how you slice it...


The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Aug 18, 2012 - 01:15am PT
From TGT's link upthread about former Obama campaign co-chair introducing Paul Ryan:

Davis, who said in May he was switching parties from Democrat to Republican, said he had only disagreed with Ryan on one subject: the status of Led Zeppelin as the "#1 band of the modern era."

"I questioned you as you said it. As a Genesis man, I questioned it," Davis said.

That says pretty much all you need to know about his judgement.

Not that LZ is undisputedly the best, but Genesis? ACK!

Probably just doing the republican win-over-the Christian-vote thing - that's one thing they're good at.
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Aug 18, 2012 - 02:52am PT
Genesis - The Land of Confusion, written during the Reagan presidency, apparently with The Gipper and Nancy in mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU9lv_WqK6k

Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Aug 18, 2012 - 05:54am PT
Listening to Jon Stewarts first segment made me want to puke at the Blatant voter suppression tactics being employed by the GOP

http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/thu-august-16-2012-rob-corddry

Anyone who supports this sort of killing democracy can Suck it

Peace

Karl
can't say

Social climber
Pasadena CA
Aug 18, 2012 - 08:21am PT
I've tried to stay out of the political threads but I could just not let this one go unnoticed here. I wanted to add to the chorus laughing at Ryan's admiration of Ayn Rand. Check out this article on when she was young and was a devoted fan of a well known serial killer. I shat you knot!!

http://www.alternet.org/story/145819/ayn_rand%2C_hugely_popular_author_and_inspiration_to_right-wing_leaders%2C_was_a_big_admirer_of_serial_killer
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Aug 18, 2012 - 10:14am PT
sheesh, Nay


That's a disturbing story to wake up to
Ricky

climber
Sometimes LA
Aug 18, 2012 - 10:42am PT

Zell Miller, Joe Lieberman, Arthur Davis... The villagers get riled up when the captured are put on display.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Aug 18, 2012 - 10:42am PT
It’s hard to say whether this double standard reflects cognitive dissonance, the rank hypocrisy of the opportunist, or the corroding power of ideology on the critical faculties. Something must explain why lib/progs think waterboarding a terrorist is a crime against humanity, while obliterating the terrorist and the family around him with a drone is okay. Something must explain why Ann Romney’s $900 shirt makes her an out-of-touch plutocrat, while Michelle Obama’s $6,800 J. Mendel jacket evokes breathless encomia to her style. Something must explain why the media decried a planned Republican ad about Obama’s factual ties to racist reverend Jeremiah Wright, while the aired Democrat ad linking Romney to a woman’s death by cancer earns a mainstream media shrug. Something must explain why critically questioning Christianity and its doctrines shows intellectual bravery, even though such criticism has been going on for over two centuries and is risk-free, while doing the same thing to Islam is Islamophobic hate speech rather than true intellectual daring.

We may never know why this contradiction inhabits the lib/prog mind, but one thing we do know: it’s not liberal and it’s not progressive in any meaningful sense of those words. So anyone have a suggestion for what we should call it?
Dave Kos

Trad climber
Temecula
Aug 18, 2012 - 10:48am PT
I went climbing yesterday and this thread grew by more than 100 posts.

Great day of climbing, had a blast at Holcomb Valley. Almost nobody else was there. I climbed better than I usually do. All the credit goes to locker's resoles.

I'm not going to read the 100 posts, can anyone just point out the one that explains how Paul Ryan is going to balance the budget?


can't say

Social climber
Pasadena CA
Aug 18, 2012 - 10:59am PT
I understand Kevin, but what's even more disturbing to me is that Ryan thinks the zenith of human development is based solely on the individual and how the rest of society keeps them from achieving their goal of the mine, mine, IT's ALL MINE!! theory of social good. Well at least if he were really channeling Ms Rand. But if you look at his record,he's as hypocritical in his political positions as Rand was in her assumptions that individualism trumps social responsibility, ergo that dude who chopped up the little girl was actualizing the power of the individual.
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
Aug 18, 2012 - 11:05am PT
I'll take on the water boarding issue, TGT

Something must explain why lib/progs think waterboarding a terrorist is a crime against humanity
blah, blah, blah.

Liberals don't think it's a crime against humanity per se - it's a war crime according to The Geneva Convention. And it's a sadistic, counterproductive tactic for getting information, beyond that.

First we were told it wasn't happening, next that it was "enhanced interrogation", then it was "not torture", and therefore not illegal, then it was worth it because we were getting information that saved lives, and finally in retrospect we learned that the information they were getting by torture was fabricated to stop the torture, and probably led to more needless deaths from operations based on that info.

Lies, dishonesty, criminal activity, all wrapped up in it.

Meanwhile, while all that sh#t was going down, the military under bush's orders was killing hundreds of thousands of Iraqis in "Operation Iraqi Freedom"

I guess dying is a liberating experience in a way....

All that for nothing, TGT. Nothing, unless you can point to something positive that resulted from it.

As far as comparing it to targeted assassinations and collateral damage - unfortunate and illegal as they might be, they seem a much more effective way of dealing with terrorists than the bush admin's blundering and insane spending levels.


Why do right wingers constantly criticize Obama for doing the stuff they would wholeheartedly endorse if a republican were doing it?

More blatant hypocrisy.

I won't waste my time debunking the rest of that drivel.


Is that the best you got?






can't say

Social climber
Pasadena CA
Aug 18, 2012 - 11:36am PT
Republican voter suppression as seen by Bill Maher's "New Rule" last night. It starts about 2:30 into the clip, but the rest is fun to watch too

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xswaz5_episode-255_shortfilms
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Aug 18, 2012 - 12:32pm PT
While completing the novel, Rand was prescribed the amphetamine Benzedrine to fight fatigue.[41] The drug helped her to work long hours to meet her deadline for delivering the finished novel, but when the book was done, she was so exhausted that her doctor ordered two weeks' rest.[42] Her continued use of the drug for approximately three decades may have contributed to what some of her later associates described as volatile mood swings


 Hey republigoons…. your favorite was just like limbag… a f*#kin meth head… How many of you have taken advise from someone on amphetamines? Oh, wait… you all do?
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Aug 18, 2012 - 02:47pm PT
"Republican voter suppression as seen by Bill Maher's "New Rule" last night. It starts about 2:30 into the clip, but the rest is fun to watch too

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xswaz5_episode-255_shortfilms"

Thanks. This really jerks my chain, particularly after that Idiot legislator from Penn blatantly stated the goal of the new ID laws, to give the election to Romney

And that election dude in Ohio, who tried to blatantly have extended voting hours in GOP districts only?! That's treason in my book

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/09/1118341/-Ohio-sets-up-one-early-voting-system-for-Republican-counties-another-for-Democratic-counties

Fortunately, the outcry led the official to change the rules for equal voting hours in all districts but they are far fewer hours than previously planned for.

What do Republicans have against voting? LIke in Florida where they are illegally purging the voting lists too soon before the election for anyone to do anything about it and the Justice department is forced to sue

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/government-elections-politics/justice-dept-sues-to-end-florida-voter-roll-purge/


The Justice Department is suing Florida’s secretary of state to stop a voter purge that it says is against the law.

Florida’s own county election officials — a cadre of Republicans and Democrats — have already suspended the purge. Several officials told FRONTLINE last week that they found eligible voters on the purge list and concluded it was illegal to continue.

These local officials have said they’ll wait to see what the Justice Department decides before taking any more action. But technically, county officials could resume the process at any time.

This is the third case the Justice Department has pending against states it alleges are in violation of the Voting Rights Act, which bans discrimination against voters, and bars jurisdictions with a history of discrimination from making any alterations to voting law without approval from the attorney general or the U.S. district court in Washington, D.C. The DOJ also has suits pending against South Carolina and Texas over their voter ID laws.

In its letter warning of legal action, sent on Monday, the Justice Department attacked Florida’s plan on two points: It said the state started its purge too late, and that its attempt to remove noncitizens risked blocking eligible voters from casting ballots. States are prohibited from purging the voter rolls 90 days before a federal election, and Florida is holding a primary on Aug. 14. The department also said that the state was relying on flawed lists to conduct its purge.

“As one would expect with a new program that has not previously been tested against real-world information, your program has critical imperfections, which lead to errors that harm and confuse eligible voters,” Assistant Attorney General Thomas Perez wrote in the letter.

Election officials had sent letters to “native-born citizens, including a decorated World War II combat veteran,” asking them to provide proof of citizenship or be dropped from the voter rolls, Perez said in the letter, adding: “Please immediately cease this unlawful conduct.”

Also on Monday, Ken Detzner, Florida’s secretary of state, filed suit against the Department of Homeland Security, alleging the department has prevented Florida officials from using its citizenship database to check its rolls.

“For nearly a year, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security has failed to meet its legal obligation to provide us the information necessary to identify and remove ineligible voters from Florida’s voter rolls,” Detzner said in a press release. “We can’t let the federal government delay our efforts to uphold the integrity of Florida elections any longer. We’ve filed a lawsuit to ensure the law is carried out and we are able to meet our obligation to keep the voter rolls accurate and current.”

The Justice Department responded in its Monday letter that election officials hadn’t provided the needed documentation necessary to verify voters’ citizenship with DHS, and said that the state’s charge that DHS and the Justice Department were working together to “deny Florida access” to DHS databases was “simply wrong.”

The secretary of state’s office didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Aug 18, 2012 - 03:12pm PT
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What If Every Voter Knew The Truth About About Mitt Romney's 'Job Creation' Record?:

Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Aug 18, 2012 - 04:12pm PT
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/08/18-1

Published on Saturday, August 18, 2012 by Robert Reich's blog
Mitt’s 13% Tax
by Robert Reich
Mitt Romney says “every year I’ve paid at least 13 percent [of my income in taxes] and if you add in addition the amount that goes to charity, why the number gets well above 20 percent.”


(photo: Marcus Demery / Flickr)

This is supposed to be in defense of not releasing his tax returns.

Assume, for the sake of the argument, he’s telling the truth. Since when are charitable contributions added to income taxes when judging whether someone has paid his fair share?

More to the point, Romney admits to an income of over $20 million a year for the last several decades. Which makes his 13 percent — or even 20 percent — violate the principle of equal sacrifice that lies at the core of our notion of tax fairness.

Even Adam Smith, the 18th century guru of free-market conservatives, saw the wisdom of a graduated tax embodying the principle of equal sacrifice. “The rich should contribute to the public expense,” he wrote, “not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more in proportion.”

Equal sacrifice means that in paying taxes people ought to feel about the same degree of pain regardless of whether they’re wealthy or poor. Logically, this means someone earning $20 million a year should pay a much larger proportion of his income in taxes than someone earning $200,000, who in turn should pay a larger proportion than someone earning $50,000.

But Romney’s alleged 13 percent tax rate is lower than that of most middle class Americans who earn a tiny fraction of what he earns.

At a time when poverty is increasing, when public parks and public libraries are being closed and when public schools are shrinking their offerings and their hours, when the nation’s debt is immense, and when the 400 richest Americans have more wealth than the bottom 150 million of us put together — Romney’s 13 percent is shameful.

© 2012 Robert Reich

 Rombley is a tax cheat and should be shamed at every event he attempts to speak at.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Aug 18, 2012 - 04:13pm PT
Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Aug 18, 2012 - 04:17pm PT
I wonder if Romney's lawyers and accountants are even now negotiating with the IRS, in an effort to ensure that his financial affairs are presentable and transparent? That is, offshore accounts and investments declared, all taxes and penalties paid, and showing that he's paying, even if retroactively, a reasonable amount of income tax? So that he can then dramatically disclose his (amended and laundered) returns, to prove that everything's OK after all?
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Aug 18, 2012 - 04:20pm PT
the 400 richest Americans have more wealth than the bottom 150 million


god bless capitalism
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Aug 18, 2012 - 04:22pm PT
^^^ for the video….content or relevance to anything….? ^^^^
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