Bowe Bergdahl

If he was killed by the Taliban the Fox wingNuts would be calling for Obama's head. It's the same dreary, tired playbook: try to weaken the president by taking the opposite side on every single frickin' issue. All masterminded by Karl Rove and the $$ interests who want the keys to the kingdom back.

According to firsthand accounts from soldiers in his platoon, Bergdahl, while on guard duty, shed his weapons and walked off the observation post with nothing more than a compass, a knife, water, a digital camera and a diary.
At least six soldiers were killed in subsequent searches for Bergdahl, and many soldiers in his platoon said attacks seemed to increase against the United States in Paktika province in the days and weeks following his disappearance.
"Any of us would have died for him while he was with us, and then for him to just leave us like that, it was a very big betrayal," said former U.S. Army Sgt. Josh Korder, who has the name of three soldiers who died while searching for Bergdahl tatooed on his back.
Many of Bergdahl's fellow troops -- from the seven or so who knew him best in his squad to the larger group that made up the 1st Battalion, 501st Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 25th Infantry Division -- told CNN that they signed nondisclosure agreements agreeing to never share any information about Bergdahl's disappearance and the efforts to recapture him. Some were willing to dismiss that document in hopes that the truth would come out about a soldier who they now fear is being hailed as a hero, while the men who lost their lives looking for him are ignored.
"I don't think I could have continued to go on without being able to share with you and the people the true things that happened in this situation," Korder said Monday. "Because if you guys aren't made aware of it, it will just go on, and he'll be a hero, and nobody will be able to know the truth."

....racist repubs

I'm sure Ron would hang him for being a traitor.

But wait, he's a war theater vet, and Ron loves combat vets! What to do?

Ron hates it when the world isn't all black and whitey. But he's already made up his mind, so it's cool.

And The President had better hope and pray that NONE of those guys gets involved in any more mischief

Former Pfc. Jose Baggett, 27, of Chicago, was also in Blackfoot Company, and said he was close to two men “killed because of his (Bergdahl’s) actions.”

“He walked off,” Baggett told CNN. “He left his guard post. Nobody knows if he defected or he’s a traitor or he was kidnapped. What I do know is he was there to protect us and instead he decided to defer from America and go and do his own thing. I don’t know why he decided to do that, but we spend so much of our resources and some of those resources were soldiers’ lives.”

On August 18, 2009, Staff Sgt. Clayton Bowen and Pfc. Morris Walker were killed by an IED in the search for Bergdahl. Staff Sgt. Kurt Curtiss was killed on August 26; 2nd Lt. Darryn Andrews and Pfc. Matthew Michael Martinek were killed after being attacked in Yahya Khail District on September 4; Staff Sgt. Michael Murphrey was killed September 5 by an IED at the Forward Operating Base, Sharana.

Guyman, no not speaking for Ron, just riffing on his general vibe.

In the big picture these 5 jihadists do not make the world any more dangerous by being free, it is not like they have the secret formula for destroying America.

He left his guard post. Nobody knows if he defected or he’s a traitor or he was kidnapped.

QuoteThe five "Towel Heads" that were exchanged are some very very very bad dudes. Three of them are confirmed senior Taliban bomb/IED makers. Can only imagine how many "innocent" local (Women & Children) humans their IED's have killed. Let alone US and UN Servicemembers.

But of course, after their years spent in Gitmo, getting there shet tortured (oooops, forgot the US doesn't do that.....riiight), day in day out by the "Company" and getting tamed, they are just going to go back to Afghanistan and become simple goat herders and put their "jihadist" days behind them.


Wonderful. Here

It's the stupid criminal American politicians along with all their criminal lobbyists that are the terrorists destroying America.

It’s one thing to do a deal to get an American back; it’s another to give away the terrorist farm as part of it; and it’s another still to give away the farm for a guy whom your own investigators think may be a Taliban sympathizer.

As far as this traitor/deserter,,

The pentagon has previously determined he was indeed a deserter.

These men, heroes or not, schlubs or not, have seen more of the elephant than he will ever see and have rights to opinion.

Can't wait till they have 8 years of Hillary in the White House. Gonna be fun.

Hillary Clinton Converts to Islam to Run for President

You really are not that ignorant in reality Todd Eastman, are you?

Did you actually read the ref I cited before you posted?

How about we give that same advise to Bergdahl.

From accounts that are coming out today from the individuals that served directly with Bergdahl "in country", appears that he did just that, deserted his post in time of war.

Is that good enough "peril" for you, Ted?

All of which is directly under the watch and command of President Obama. Who just two weeks ago highly publicly praised the efforts of the now resigned in disgrace Director. Who stated at his resignation last Friday that he had absolutely no idea the current totally fked up complete bullshet fabricated red tape issue that is killing Vets, was occurring.

And here i THOUGHT we didnt "negotiate" with terrorists.

It may be a political maxim that we don’t talk to terrorists. But that’s not always how it works in practice. The Carter administration had long and intricate negotiations with the Iranians who took dozens of Americans hostage in Tehran in 1979 (and whom Carter himself described as terrorists), winning the hostages’ release after Carter agreed to unfreeze about $11 billion in Iranian assets.

Ronald Reagan’s White House also horse traded with the Iranians for hostages—secretly trading arms for the release of Americans held in Lebanon, in what came to be known as the Iran-Contra affair. (Bolton, to his credit, acknowledges and condemns this infamous episode.)

In the mid-1990s Bill Clinton met with Gerry Adams, leader of the political wing of the Irish Republican Army, then still on the State Department’s terror list. (It was removed after peace accords in 1998.) The British government considered Adams himself a terrorist and urged Clinton not to see him.

During the Iraq War, the Bush administration cut deals with Sunni insurgents in Iraq’s Anbar province—working with and even paying people who had been killing American soldiers.

Even Israel, which is not known for its kid-glove treatment of terrorists, has a recent history of doing business with its most despised enemies. In 2011, the Israeli government freed more than 1,000 prisoners in return for Hamas’ release of the captured Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit.

Under Shinseki's administration, the national and Phoenix VA made resources available and issued more federal housing vouchers than ever before, said Brad Bridwell, director of community development at Cloudbreak Communities, a veteran-housing organization.

"Secretary Shinseki, without a doubt, in the homeless-veteran world, is a champion," Bridwell said. "He put the resources out there like nobody else has done on the issue. It's unfortunate to hear about the wait times and the broader issue of VA health care."

Local officials emphasized that their interactions with housing and social-work staff at the Phoenix VA has been productive, and they lamented a blanket black eye on the Phoenix VA.

He can not control nor even attempt to fix the VA.

The problem has gotten worse the past six years, not better.

Banish the VA Health system totally

Give all the billions and billions of dollars spent on them 1/3 million $ a year VA Admin salaries to local entities.

Where would these many billions come from?

If it came from the fed, wouldn't it still be a fed program?


Taking care of homeless vets, doesn't sound like a job the corporate profit whores would take on. No money in it.

Taking care of the homeless, doesn't sound like something the stand up for yourself, power of the individual, Ayn Rand republicans

healy, what national mental health system?

The "billions" would come from the billions in salary that the VA currently pays out annually to it's admin monster club.

Funding??


Have you seen the latest annual payroll/salary list for the VA Ctr EMPLOYEES at the Phoenix AZ center alone, Survival??


Here. Read and weep.

http://www.openthebooks.com/search/?PensionCode=840&F_fiscalyear=2013&F_Station=Phoenix&F_Name=&perpage=100

The Chief

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Laughing at all the Sheep from atop the Hill

"We as Americans do not leave anyone behind".

"We as Americans do not leave anyone behind".

Hypocrites

You run all over countries all over the world and rape and pillage them for your own material lusty gains and then leave them behind
as destroyed shells to fend for themselves from scavengers whom moved in from behind.

BOB BERGDAHL: The chief prosecutor for the military in Guantánamo Bay is saying that the five Afghans should be traded for Bowe Bergdahl. The chief prosecutor. I don’t think anybody can relate to the prisoners at Guantánamo more, I don’t think, than our family because it’s the same thing. My son is a prisoner of war. And wars end with reconciliation and negotiations with the enemy, and prisoners of war should be part of that dialogue. And I insist, I insist that it will be. The Supreme Court justice that was sent to Nuremberg for the Nuremberg trials, has just an absolutely fantastic statement of what American justice stood for at the end of World War II.

KMAN highly approves of the Taliban ideals and how they treat their women and children.

Well KAMN, you approve of the five senior Taliban individuals being returned to their homeland.

The five going back to their homeland and returning to Taliban business as usual in promoting and securing the Taliban Sharia Law way of life.

KMAN highly approves of the Taliban ideals and how they treat their women and children.

"The government’s ability to limit free speech, to stopper the First Amendment, is perhaps the most critical issue our republic can face. If you were to write the history of the last decade in Washington, it might well be a story of how, issue by issue, the government freed itself from legal and constitutional bounds when it came to torture, the assassination of U.S. citizens, the holding of prisoners without trial or access to a court of law, the illegal surveillance of American citizens, and so on. In the process, it has entrenched itself in a comfortable shadowland of ever more impenetrable secrecy, while going after any whistleblower who might shine a light in. All that stands in counter to the government’s actions is the First Amendment, exactly as the Founders designed it to be."

VA issues? What VA issues? I read the news today and there aren't any VA issues.

It's only okay when you (or your fellow travelers) do it?

pas·sive-ag·gres·sive adjective


of or denoting a type of behavior or personality characterized by indirect resistance to the demands of others and an avoidance of direct confrontation, as in procrastinating, pouting, or misplacing important materials.

When wars end, prisoners taken custody must be released. These five Guantanamo detainees were almost all members of the Taliban, according to the biographies of the five detainees that the Afghan Analysts Network compiled in 2012. None were facing charges in either military or civilian courts for their actions. It remains an open question whether the end of U.S. involvement in the armed conflict in Afghanistan requires that all Guantanamo detainees must be released. But there is no doubt that Taliban detainees captured in Afghanistan must be released because the armed conflict against the Taliban will be over.

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Statistics from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence show that only 6 percent (5 in total) of Guantanamo detainees released during the Obama administration have been assessed to have potentially engaged in militant activities. That compares with a rate of nearly 30 percent under the Bush administration. While these statistics have been criticized as including activities that no one should consider threatening the security of the United States, such as writing op-eds critical of U.S. policy, no one is arguing that they are undercounting those detainees who potentially have committed violent acts upon release.

So the statistics show that there is a 5 percent chance at most that these detainees will engage in militant activities upon release, they will be in Qatar for at least a year by which time the U.S. combat role in Afghanistan will be over, and they would have had to be released soon anyway. When put in the proper perspective, obtaining the release of the sole U.S. prisoner in Afghanistan is a masterstroke and worthy of congratulations.

He was hen picked up by the Taliban

John Bellinger, who served as a national security adviser to President George W. Bush, said in a Fox News interview Tuesday that he believed Obama did the right thing in its recovery of Bergdahl.

20% Al-Qaida, 80% Goodfellas

Either Obama didn't know. DURR.

Or he didn't think we'd find out. DURRRRR.

im left to wonder why our NV Natl guard is being deployed there.

www.nytimes.com/.../the-deserters-a-world-war-ii-history-by-charles-glass.htm

50,000 U.S. deserters in WWII

The Five Taliban prisoners WERE Not Terrorists

I didn't do shet.

Nobody knows if he defected or he’s a traitor or he was kidnapped.

Retired Gen. Stanley McChrystal on Wednesday urged Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl’s critics not to “judge” him until all the facts are in and sharply defended the extensive and risky search efforts that claimed the lives of some of his fellow soldiers.
“We did a huge number of operations to try to stop the Taliban from being able to move him across the border into Pakistan,” McChrystal told Yahoo News in an exclusive interview. “And we made a great effort and put a lot of people at risk in doing that, but that’s what you should do. That’s what soldiers do for each other.”

Bergdahl’s release as part of a prisoner swap involving five Taliban commanders has drawn angry scrutiny in Congress. It has also prompted some of his former comrades in arms to paint him as a deserter unworthy of the frantic search efforts on his behalf.

McChrystal, who commanded the war effort in Afghanistan at the time of Bergdahl’s June 2009 vanishing, declined to shed any more light on the circumstances of his disappearance.

“We’re going to have to wait and talk to Sgt. Bergdahl now and get his side of the story,” he said. “One of the great things about America is we should not judge until we know the facts. And after we know the facts, then we should make a mature judgment on how we should handle it.”

Asked whether he would have made the same prisoner swap, McChrystal replied: “We don’t leave Americans behind. That’s unequivocal.”

Jimmy Carter was the originator of this Jihadist dilemma that we have been dealing with for three decades.

“We’re going to have to wait and talk to Sgt. Bergdahl now and get his side of the story,” he said. “One of the great things about America is we should not judge until we know the facts. And after we know the facts, then we should make a mature judgment on how we should handle it.”

Asked whether he would have made the same prisoner swap, McChrystal replied: “We don’t leave Americans behind. That’s unequivocal.”

and Ken the lunatic M,, i served six years with the USAF Auxiliary and at the end of that was offered a warrant officer 2 in the regular AirForce. I served at Mcllelan USAFB, Wright Patterson USAFB, Nellis USAFB, Lackland USAFB, Hawthorne Naval Ammunition depot, and Biteburg Germany. Attended all manner of tech schooling at the air bases and I even flew airwacs missions supporting operations in the straights of hanoi.. That was ALL VOLUNTEER time might i add, all in SAR operations. Have over 2000 sorties on SAR missions throughout the west and over seas. So stuff your "i didnt serve shyt" right up yur hiney...

10/28/2013 - CAMP LEMONNIER, Djibouti -- CAMP LEMONNIER, Djibouti -- An Air Force Reserve SERE specialist with the 920th Rescue Wing was named top honor graduate of the French Forces Desert Combat Survival Course held here in October.

Staff Sgt. Benjamin Domian, deployed here from Patrick Air Force Base, Fla., joined more than 160 French and U.S. military members who participated in the 10-day desert combat course, with about 143 completing the test of mental and physical obstacles in the Djiboutian desert.

"We're incredibly proud of him," said Capt. Luc Chandou, a combat rescue officer with the 920th. "I discussed his performance with some of the trainees, and they were all awed by his strength, knowledge and leadership."

Joint training, such as this, builds relationships with partner nations and ensures Combined Joint Task Force-Horn of Africa members are continually ready to support military operations in East Africa to defeat violent extremist organizations.

Been that way for over 250 years.

The United States Navy recognizes 13 October 1775 as the date of its official establishment

Soon, the nutjob party will take the stage with a parade of goons, clowns and people with bad hair. They are debates, but it's really the funniest reality show ever.

OK... let's play KMAN.