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Trad climber
Bay Area
Oct 6, 2011 - 05:57pm PT
8 months of winter is not something I find appealing
forecast 80 in Bishop, 95 in Riverside, 89 in San Jose, 83 at Castle Rock by next Wednesday. I'm worried more about Santa Anas and a hot end of October. At least my firewood will get a chance to dry out.

Oct 6, 2011 - 06:01pm PT
Thanks everyone for the updates.

What looks like the last band of precip is passing through the bay area as I type. Coming down pretty heavy at the moment.

Silver, I'm no expert but a few friends and I have been talking about that. Many of the Sierra glaciers/semi-permanent snowfields have made it through the summer relatively intact. With the new snow arriving on top of what's left, they should be even beefier next year. Neat. I don't think I'd call it an Ice Age yet, but a nice couple of years without drought.

Big Wall climber
Nor Nev
Oct 6, 2011 - 06:27pm PT

I have a BS in Geography and some twenty years out of school I can remember small bits and pieces of classes that we discussed this stuff. I think we are on the front edge of a climate change here. Will it last? Who knows, but my passion for geography and weather have me thinking this may be a change we as people living in this area of the world have never seen or expected to happen. I have lived in this area 40 years plus and I can recall almost every major winter from 71 to present. This summer was by far the most moderate summer I have ever had in Reno/Tahoe. I can not tell you a single day of 100 degree weather and as far as 90 degree days we had plenty but they seemed come later and we had more low 90's than high 90's it seemed.

I suppose I could go and do the history for the last 4 months and over 10 years but I am just happy to see water in our lakes and a river flowing through our town.

Funny side note our local water authority is thinking of raising rates because we did not use enough water this summer and they did not make enough money. How wack is that?
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Oct 6, 2011 - 06:28pm PT
Definitely the most moderate Central Valley summer in my 25 years here. We didn't have a single >99 day in AUGUST! (Sept was hotter, lol)

Doug Robinson

Trad climber
Santa Cruz
Oct 6, 2011 - 06:41pm PT

I recall 4-6 years like this, where snowfields lingered into the beginning of the next winter. Including '69, just before your first obs in '71. None of them lasted more than 2-3 years. Used to be pretty tuned into that from living up in the Palisades every summer.

I too am a bit surprised that it snowed so much so early this fall, after snowing so much so late last spring. I just read prediction of a second La Nina season, though probably not as big as last year.

Wax up the snow shovel!

Big Wall climber
Nor Nev
Oct 6, 2011 - 06:48pm PT
Doug thanks for the FYI. I'm not as old as some of you only being in my mid 40's but weather has always been a passion of mine. I wrote the weather history for Tonopah Nevada for the state climate office. My grand mother was from Tonopah so it was fun for me to collect the data for all the years and see what she lived through in those days.

I know I promised you a Summit with you in it and I apologize. The great flood of my basement destroyed my collection and your issue was not spared. Sorry for not getting it out to you when I had the chance.


Oct 6, 2011 - 09:51pm PT
Silver - "I am just happy to see water in our lakes" - me, too. No argument here. After a few lean years, I have a new appreciation of our watersheds.

But I guess I could handle tossing some Al Gore into the discussion if it gets us to the top of the page for a few more pictures & reports.

Credit: QITNL


Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Oct 6, 2011 - 10:01pm PT
PLEASE!!!!! No Al Gore discussion here.

I intend this thread to be an information source about current conditions that players can check in on for the best info available.

Trad climber
Lone Pine
Oct 6, 2011 - 10:04pm PT
It's windy as all hell in Lone Pine, raining off and on with some pretty macho clouds rolling through the mountains... Film festival goers are falling and breaking their hips left and right

Oct 6, 2011 - 11:52pm PT
Yeah, but when Al Gore speaks, people listen. Otherwise you become page two news real fast.

Anyway just another noob troll as to what's going on up there, best guess as to when the roads will re-open, pretty pictures, boring stuff.

Trad climber
So Cal urban sprawl Hell
Oct 7, 2011 - 12:46am PT
I got an email from Al Gore, ohhh, I mean~ Mammoth Mountain, one of their dump alerts that is! and opening day is in a month. Get out the rock skis unless it keeps on a snowin'!

WX in Long Beach yesterday, unreal, was like a hurricane here, windy and just dumped rain non-stop all day.

Trad climber
In the mountains... somewhere...
Oct 7, 2011 - 12:55am PT
Lone Pine looks like it will be perfect for the weekend and a little A Hills cragging. Looks like the Stoney Point crowd will be rolling in en masse.

Boulder climber
Happy Boulders
Oct 7, 2011 - 12:59am PT
Some dude from JPL predicted a La Nina for last winter, and LA got about 20" of rain for the season(above normal). they interviewed him again tonight, and he said the same thing about the coming winter. we shall see.
I also have a degree in geography. I remember one of my profs saying that you can't predict weather accurately for more than three days.

Big Wall climber
Nor Nev
Oct 7, 2011 - 12:40pm PT
10b4me yer right its basic witchcraft after 3 days.

Who in the hell is Al Gore?

Oh thats right he invented the internet and was Micheal Moore's lover right?

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Oct 7, 2011 - 12:43pm PT
We had 3" of snow fall late yesterday afternoon, and this morning's low was 19F.

Absolutely stunning here this morning, with bluebird skies. Sun will make short work of the snow in a few hours.


Mountain climber
13,000 feet
Oct 7, 2011 - 01:52pm PT
thanks for the update!

Mountain climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Oct 7, 2011 - 01:55pm PT
Yeah, snow is melting so rapidly off the trees here, it almost looks like rain!
Mighty Hiker

Vancouver, B.C.
Oct 7, 2011 - 01:57pm PT
The three month forecast, from Environment Canada:

Oct 7, 2011 - 05:29pm PT
Reported at

SR89, SR4, and SR108 have all opened again without controls. There is apparently a rock slide east of Tioga Pass that may keep that road closed a few days.


Just called the park and they report Tioga Road as open. Caltrans is still claiming 120 to be closed on the east side.

We now return you to your standard programming.

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Oct 7, 2011 - 09:05pm PT
First snow this year is disappearing fast. After a low of 19F, we got up to 60F today.

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We now return to your regularly scheduled season.....FALL!
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