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Chaz
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greater Boss Angeles area
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Jul 14, 2012 - 02:23am PT
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Somebody wants more money.
My guess Stewart / Colbert % Co. are the ones wanting more money, because it's only their outfit DTV isn't carrying anymore.
Call Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, and tell them to back off from being such greedy pigs.
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bullfrog
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Jul 14, 2012 - 03:26am PT
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This got me thinking a little, and likely going OT to the point the thread should be forked. (How do you do that here ;-) )
There is "straight" political discussion. Then there is what you can expose by being wholly or partially satirical. Then there is what you can get away with discussing about politics by wrapping it up in science fiction.
Letting the ball roll here and seeing where it goes...
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can't say
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Pasadena CA
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Jul 14, 2012 - 08:31am PT
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Chaz, you're wrong on what Viacom pulled from DirectTV. They also pulled Spike, a bunch of kid's channel's and a few others, at least they did on the service I get. There goes a couple of channels I like watching. That doesn't leave a lot left that I find interesting enough to tune in on.
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apogee
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 14, 2012 - 11:19am PT
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Chaz...wrong?
Chaz...the perpetual naysayer?
Chaz...the 'anything vaguely connected with liberalism is suspect'?
Chaz...the 'comment first, research last'?
Yep, that's him.
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Chaz
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greater Boss Angeles area
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Jul 14, 2012 - 11:53am PT
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"Chaz...the 'comment first, research last'?"
Turns out my guess was correct. A guess based on zero research.
Viacom - Stewart and Colbert's outfit - are indeed asking for more money. They feel they have DirecTV over a barrel, and they want to leverage the situation into more money for themselves.
I hope DirecTV sticks to their guns, because I don't want to see my satelite bill go up in order to keep a bunch of sh#t I don't even watch.
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can't say
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Pasadena CA
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Jul 14, 2012 - 11:58am PT
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Chaz, it's kind of common to post a link to whatever new information one is introducing to an on-going conversation that is germane to the basic arguement.
Post up the link dude
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can't say
Social climber
Pasadena CA
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Jul 14, 2012 - 12:39pm PT
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Chaz, when you keep phrasing the deal with
"Viacom - Stewart and Colbert's outfit - wants an extra billion dollars. DirecTV doesn't want to pay it."
You imply that those two shows are the onus for Viacom's decision, falsely btw.
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Chaz
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greater Boss Angeles area
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Jul 14, 2012 - 12:44pm PT
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Just trying to stay relevant to the topic.
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apogee
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 14, 2012 - 12:51pm PT
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"Viacom - Stewart and Colbert's outfit - are indeed asking for more money. "
In Chaz's mind, Viacom = Stewart/Colbert, & Stewart/Colbert = Viacom, as though this dispute was created specifically by S/C for the sole purpose of making more $ for S/C.
a) You'd probably be on the opposite side of such a view if it was Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, etc.
b) You'd probably laud them for making $ in the old fashioned capitalism way
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Chaz
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greater Boss Angeles area
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Jul 14, 2012 - 01:05pm PT
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You mean like if Fox went off the air because they wanted more money from DTV?
Yeah, I'd say the same thing. Hannity, O'Riley, and Beck's outfit are holding out for more money.
There's going to be an agreement. Too much money working for there not to be. My guess ( guessing again ) is you'll be watching Stewart at his normal time Monday.
If a 30% increase = $1,000,000,000 , then DirecTV is already paying Viacom a few billion for their programming right now. Viacom's gotta have an outlet for their stuff, and DirecTV is the biggest game in town.
A few years ago, OLN - or VS, or whatever they called themselves then - tried the same stunt shortly before the Tour De France. I don't remember how it was settled then, but the mechanics were the same; Programmer wanted more money.
BTW, The Tour was broadcast as usual that year.
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nature
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SoSlo, CO
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Jul 14, 2012 - 02:48pm PT
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why am I not surprised here...?
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Jingy
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Somewhere out there
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Jul 14, 2012 - 03:03pm PT
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Brilliant, truth sayer
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nature
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SoSlo, CO
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Jul 17, 2012 - 12:22pm PT
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http://www.thedailyshow.com
looks like last nights episode is streaming on the web.
what is Chaz yapping about and being so wrong about again?
oh. that.
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nature
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SoSlo, CO
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Jul 18, 2012 - 09:33am PT
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you know it's good when Jon is that happy and thankful.
Wow... Jon just railed Romney in a way nobody else can. WOW!
It's a black tie affair mother f*#ker.
bwahahaaaahaaaa....
he's toast.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jul 18, 2012 - 12:52pm PT
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Could you say the NY Yankees are Derek Jeter's team?
Or is Jeter just *within* the Yankee outfit?
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apogee
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 18, 2012 - 01:02pm PT
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Chaz, if this was about Hannity or Limbaugh (or similar) & their distribution company, you'd be on the other side of the argument. Your view on this matter is ideologically-driven.
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apogee
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 21, 2012 - 02:33am PT
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One of my favorite news segments is on Fridays on NPR...a Left/Right view of politics with EJ Dionne (left) and David Brooks (right). Much as I appreciate the respectful back & forth that goes on between these two, it sometimes doesn't feed my need for 'red meat' politics.
EJ Dionne clearly is a lefty, and nicely eloquent, but is sometimes too 'soft' for my preferences- I've never seen him in person until tonight, which reinforces this soft-left view in an Alan Alda-kinda way.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-july-19-2012/exclusive---e-j--dionne-extended-interview-pt--1
This said, Dionne has a historical sense that is uncommon amongst the reactionary left, and an ability to rationally state his position in a way that is engaging, and unusual amongst the 'red meat' hyperbole of MSNBC. He is worth a listen.
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