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MH2

Boulder climber
Andy Cairns
Dec 29, 2014 - 04:11pm PT
And didn't Furry Creek used to be Fury Creek?
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 29, 2014 - 04:17pm PT
Fury creek? It is now! ;)

I would like to do the south gully, if only to look up at the prow from below..
Tricouni

Mountain climber
Vancouver
Dec 29, 2014 - 05:03pm PT
And didn't Furry Creek used to be Fury Creek?
From a short article I wrote a few years ago:

Trappers and prospectors explored the area before 1900. In 1898, Oliver Furry (~1855-1905), an illiterate trapper, staked the first claims to what would eventually become the Britannia Mine. Soon the area from the Stawamus and Indian Rivers south to the headwaters of the Capilano and Seymour Rivers was crawling with prospectors. Furry’s name was given a few years later to Furry Creek, and many lakes and creeks in the region were named for the some of the resulting mineral claims.
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 31, 2014 - 12:01am PT
It was gorgeous today. I managed to get down to the bluffs to hang with the boys.

Connor, Kieran and Kyle enjoying some rays.


MH2

Boulder climber
Andy Cairns
Dec 31, 2014 - 09:12am PT
Thanks Tricouni. I value this thread even when it reins in rather than feeds the imagination.

In A River Runs Through It Norman Maclean gives an example or two of colourful place names being prettified well before real estate developers standardized the practice.
Rolfr

Trad climber
La Quinta and Penticton BC
Dec 31, 2014 - 10:16am PT
Thank good some places still appreciate politically incorrect humour, Todd Gordon just named his last two routes "Spooky Boobs" and " Metallic Foreskin", thank you, I take credit for the last route name suggestion, based off the colour of a friends car.

Happy New year to everyone, have a great evening.
Tami

Social climber
Canada
Dec 31, 2014 - 10:20am PT
I heard The Lions were going to be called Sheba's Breasts. So I looked it up on google and didn't find that.........but found someother twin-peaked mountain in BC that was already called Sheba's Breasts and changed to Sheba Mtn. Snicker.


Anyway, way to git atter Mike 'n' co. How forms the ice in the bluffs ?

:-)
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 31, 2014 - 10:22am PT
No ice yet Tami! Need some snow on the cliffs for that to happen!

Kieran was working on Sunny Days in December.


He really wants to climb it in December.

Splitter weather yesterday.


I was having fun with the moon..


Balaclava Brownie


Kyle


Khyber got to hang too!


I think i slightly dislocated my pinkie on the opening move of crime...

It still hurts today. Gonna rest it this time.. Might try a slab route today tho..
Tricouni

Mountain climber
Vancouver
Dec 31, 2014 - 10:32am PT
Thanks Tricouni. I value this thread even when it reins in rather than feeds the imagination.

I always value this thread! But I don't think knowing about the origin of place names reins in the imagination. Instead, it opens vistas. For instance, with Furry Creek we know this name goes back to 1901. From the BCGNS site we find:

"... Oliver Furry, illiterate trapper....had a cabin on McNab Creek. In 1898 he went into association with W.A. Clark to stake the first 5 claims of Britannia, thence into partnership with Leo Boscowitz, from which partnership documents indicate Furry was to receive a non-assessable 50% interest in the claims. The document was signed with a rubber stamp "Boscowitz and Sons". The Boscowitz family subsequently attempted to limit Furry's interest, producing an unsigned document that reduced Furry's interest from 50% to 20%. A lawsuit developed and it became clear that Oliver Furry had a limited understanding of these financial arrangements, and was easily confused. In 1905 Furry was committed to the Essondale Home for the Insane, and died there later that year. Ira Furry, representing his deceased brother, with Joseph Martin KC as legal council, appealed the decision of a lower court to the Supreme Court of Canada: the rubber stamp was legal, but the unsigned document was not, hence Furry retained a 50% interest in the Britannia Copper Syndicate. (additional information in The Coast News 20 January 1955, "Furry Creek Has its Past"; and in "Britannia: The Story of a Mine" by Bruce Ramsey, Agency Press, Vancouver 1967)."

Isn't this name, in a way, reflective of the behavior of the extractive industries in BC over the last 100 years? Did Furry get screwed? And what about the First Nations people, who don't enter into this variant of the story?

At the head of Furry Creek we have Phyllis and Marion Lakes. Who were they? Wives? daughters? girlfriends? hookers? prospectors? We don't know: the women so often get mentioned by their first names only, and that's the story of another chapter in the history of the last century, and more.

Happy New Year to all those on this thread!

Glenn
Tami

Social climber
Canada
Dec 31, 2014 - 10:39am PT
the women so often get mentioned by their first names only, and that's the story of another chapter in the history of the last century, and more.


OR worse, are known as "Mrs." with their husband's name afterwards. I remember my Mum bowing up to that tradition. Mum also reminds me that her mother didn't own the clothing on her back. Her husband did.

I've been doing my genealogy this past year & , yeah, women are often only mentioned by their first name if at all.

And yet, you don't always know who your father is.........but women can tell ya EXACTLY how many children they've had :-)


Okay so carry on. Great pix Mike. I don't think you need snow for ice to form in the Bluffs tho'. Plenty of weepage but, yes, snow makes for quite a bit more ice.

It's a beautiful day to end the year here in Van.

Happy New Year to all of you !!! Cheers !!!!
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 31, 2014 - 10:46am PT
Okay so carry on. Great pix Mike. I don't think you need snow for ice to form in the Bluffs tho'. Plenty of weepage but, yes, snow makes for quite a bit more ice.

True, true. I haven't seen much but i didn't go anywhere other than penny yesterday too...
Rolfr

Trad climber
La Quinta and Penticton BC
Dec 31, 2014 - 10:49am PT
Lynn Hill on Spooky Boobs, you can see one of the Spooky Boobs in the ...
Lynn Hill on Spooky Boobs, you can see one of the Spooky Boobs in the top left hand corner.
Credit: Noelle Ladd
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 31, 2014 - 10:56am PT
Cool pic Rolf!
MH2

Boulder climber
Andy Cairns
Dec 31, 2014 - 11:17am PT
Losing Fury Creek is more than made up for the Home for the Insane.
Tricouni

Mountain climber
Vancouver
Dec 31, 2014 - 11:18am PT
I heard The Lions were going to be called Sheba's Breasts.

Yup. Sheba's Paps was how it was originally used. Also Queen Sheba's Breasts, probably a reference to H. Rider Haggard's Ing Solomon's Mines, published in 1885 and popular ever since.

Even earlier was The Sisters, a name that was in use, occasionally, into the early 1900s. The name survives today in Sisters Creek, which drains from the Lions into Capilano River.

The term Lions was introduced about 1890 by a Judge Gray, who obviously thought breasts were too spicy for his taste. He noticed the
resemblance, rather striking, actually, to the Lions at the base of Nelson’s column in Trafalgar Square.
Credit: Tricouni
He suggested the entrance to Vancouver harbour be called “The Lions’ Gate”
(an allusion to San Francisco’s Golden Gate?), and clearly the origin of the name for the Lions Gate Bridge.

hamie

Social climber
Thekoots
Dec 31, 2014 - 11:27am PT
Another year done, another coming up. Time to look ahead, and a time to reflect on the past. Looking ahead, here is my New Year resolution, one which I have had for a long time, and is likely shared by others on the Taco. "Must climb more, must climb more, must....."

Looking back, I am reminded that 50 years ago I spent the month of December, 1964 in Yosemite [and several months in 1965 as well]. Most climbs went well, but not all of them. One less than spectacular success was an attempted winter ascent of the north face of the Rostrum, with Bridwell. Since our approach shoes were the same as our rock shoes, we took them off to cross the Merced. By the time we reached the other side our ankles were creaking audibly from the cold [yes, true!].

Here's to good times, past and future.

Yes, it was cold....
A recent note from The Bird.
A recent note from The Bird.
Credit: hamie

Sledding in Camp 4.
H at the controls.
H at the controls.
Credit: F. Sacherer
Tricouni

Mountain climber
Vancouver
Dec 31, 2014 - 11:28am PT
I believe Bruce Ramsay was a newspaper reporter. He wrote several books on BC history. I think he had a sense of whimsy and humour. I'll post something on Judge Howay and Robie Reid later, probably. But now it's time to get out of the house and go for a good long walk. It's gorgeous outside.
Tricouni

Mountain climber
Vancouver
Dec 31, 2014 - 11:30am PT
Hi Hamie,

Sounds like quite a New Year in Yosemite 50 years ago. And now, today, guys are freeing the Dawn Wall, would you believe. Times change.

Climb more next year: good advice for all. Happy New Year!
Glenn
Tami

Social climber
Canada
Dec 31, 2014 - 01:00pm PT
Bob Howay, the judge's grandson was a climber ( and a lawyer ). He was on a couple of trips I led for the ACC 15 yrs ago or so. Nice guy. Quiet fella. Bob was killed in an unfortunate accident on one of the Border Peaks around 2000.
Oplopanax

Mountain climber
The Deep Woods
Dec 31, 2014 - 02:27pm PT
Also Queen Sheba's Breasts, probably a reference to H. Rider Haggard's Ing Solomon's Mines, published in 1885 and popular ever since.

Sheba's boobs were referenced in the Bible, actually.
It's a two-parter. Solomon is visited by the Queen of Sheba, and he gives her "all that she desires".

Then you have the Song of Songs, aka the Song of Solomon, wherein we find the line (variously translated)

"Thy two breasts are like two fawns that are twins of a gazelle, which feed among the lilies."

The inference is that this woman whose breasts are celebrated is the Queen of Sheba. Hence the rider Haggard mountains The Breasts of Sheba are named after this passage.

So while the Lions reference might be to King Solomon's Mines, it might well be directly to the Bible, too, since that's what the name in KSM refers to.


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